Ridiculous/Bizarre Covid procedure

[s4-blade]

What is the point in any of that?
First of all everybody is tested and nobody has coronavirus so why is there a need for three coaches?
Similarly if nobody has it then why do special procedures need to be in place at the ground?
And if that did make any sense to start with, what’s the difference between the media room and the dressing room?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

1. A negative test doesn’t necessarily mean they definitely don’t have it, which is why these sort of process are still required.

2. There are requirements over social distancing that can’t be met if you stick everyone in a coach as normal.

3. For the dressing room, see 2. The whole point about additional facilities is because there’s more room to have the players in.

This sort of stuff has been on the cards as soon as planning on the restart began. It’s not ridiculous, it’s entirely necessary for the whole thing to happened.

 

[GuangzhouBlade]

So presumably if we are defending a free kick then only players from Dressing Room A or B can be in the wall but not a mix of the two? Having listened to many epidemiologist's views over the course of the last few weeks it would seem if its safe enough to play football then its safe enough to get changed with team mates all this nonsense about not celebrating together and sitting apart on the bench is purely just for show in what is a contact sport?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

So presumably if we are defending a free kick then only players from Dressing Room A or B can be in the wall but not a mix of the two? Having listened to many epidemiologist's views over the course of the last few weeks it would seem if its safe enough to play football then its safe enough to get changed with team mates all this nonsense about not celebrating together and sitting apart on the bench is purely just for show in what is a contact sport?

Let’s put it this way. The player that tested positive at Norwich would, had none of the measures been put in place, probably have meant that a number of his teammates would have had to self-isolate as a result. Because the measures are in place, they don’t.

All this might seem ridiculous to some, but it’s really the difference between getting the season finished or potentially having it significantly disrupted.

 

[8lade]

Yeah I'm in the, 'this is fucking stupid' group.
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[8lade]

Let’s put it this way. The player that tested positive at Norwich

Remember Patriot missiles during The Gulf War? I'm putting C19 testing in the same category (yes I've been drinking).
It's to make everybody feel safe without really doing anything (thought I'd better elaborate on that, my mind can be a bit of a jumble).

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I'm on bus 4

 

[GuangzhouBlade]

Let’s put it this way. The player that tested positive at Norwich would, had none of the measures been put in place, probably have meant that a number of his teammates would have had to self-isolate as a result. Because the measures are in place, they don’t.

All this might seem ridiculous to some, but it’s really the difference between getting the season finished or potentially having it significantly disrupted.

Why bother testing in the first place thousands of people have today gone back to work in shops, hotels etc who won't be tested everyday?

The front-line NHS staff have done a great job but unless every person in the population is routinely tested then it becomes a pointless exercise especially now "bubbles" and households can mix and shops etc have reopened. Until we know for sure that having had the virus you are both immune and are no longer a carrier then testing a small section of the population is just a nonsense.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Why bother testing in the first place thousands of people have today gone back to work in shops, hotels etc who won't be tested everyday?

The front-line NHS staff have done a great job but unless every person in the population is routinely tested then it becomes a pointless exercise especially now "bubbles" and households can mix and shops etc have reopened. Until we know for sure that having had the virus you are both immune and are no longer a carrier then testing a small section of the population is just a nonsense.

See Beijing getting bit by a 2nd wave.

 

[PokerBlade]

It might be a bit over the top but presumably they're conforming to regulations that apply to all people, not just footballers, and it's not hard to imagine the outrage if football had special travel exemptions and the likes.

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

meh!
With rules as they are, it is fortunate that football is allowed at all.

 

[s4-blade]

An important question though is will all the players be allowed in the same room for a team talk/bollocking? Because they are crucial to football.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

What is the point in any of that?
First of all everybody is tested and nobody has coronavirus so why is there a need for three coaches?
Similarly if nobody has it then why do special procedures need to be in place at the ground?
And if that did make any sense to start with, what’s the difference between the media room and the dressing room?

Why even bother , playing a football match isn’t enough to make the other players quarantine if you test positive apparently

 

[bromtom]

An important question though is will all the players be allowed in the same room for a team talk/bollocking? Because they are crucial to football.

I'm sure I read something about outside team talks, Hull style. Don't quote me on it but it might have been from Bash.

I imagine team talks will just need bigger locales now to meet social distancing guidelines (even though they've been rolling around, colliding, and grappling with the rest of the players for the previous 45 minutes), but there you go.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Don't get me started on how bullshit this all is. Travelling on separate buses, changing in every room of the stadium before grappling at corners and set-pieces...

And don't tell me you have to be in the presence of someone for a sustained period of time to catch it as that is crap n all.

Plymouthblade knows what I'm on about

 

[CrookesBlade]

As long as it puts a tick in a box to get football back it doesn’t bother me what they do. It’s the same for every side.

 

[ATL Recs]

So presumably if we are defending a free kick then only players from Dressing Room A or B can be in the wall but not a mix of the two? Having listened to many epidemiologist's views over the course of the last few weeks it would seem if its safe enough to play football then its safe enough to get changed with team mates all this nonsense about not celebrating together and sitting apart on the bench is purely just for show in what is a contact sport?

More risk in enclosed places much less risk out in the open even with a contact sport

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Don't get me started on how bullshit this all is. Travelling on separate buses, changing in every room of the stadium before grappling at corners and set-pieces...

And don't tell me you have to be in the presence of someone for a sustained period of time to catch it as that is crap n all.

Plymouthblade knows what I'm on about

I think you sum up the feelings of what will eventually become the majority of folks. We are slowly drifting back to some semblance of "normality" because people are getting fed up of the status quo, they are confused by the messages, baffled by the contradictory science, bemused by the politicians and just generally want their lives back. I mean, the whole thing is a complete mess. There's been lots of examples of folks "breaking the rules" of late. This was Bicester shopping village yesterday for example...



So, all this is going on, but we have to do a 3 bus trick to get our players to a game and we can't go inside and watch it? It won't last for much longer, that's all I can say. It's just not credible anymore and people have stopped believing and behaving.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

I think you sum up the feelings of what will eventually become the majority of folks. We are slowly drifting back to some semblance of "normality" because people are getting fed up of the status quo, they are confused by the messages, baffled by the contradictory science, bemused by the politicians and just generally want their lives back. I mean, the whole thing is a complete mess. There's been lots of examples of folks "breaking the rules" of late. This was Bicester shopping village yesterday for example...

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So, all this is going on, but we have to do a 3 bus trick to get our players to a game and we can't go inside and watch it? It won't last for much longer, that's all I can say. It's just not credible anymore and people have stopped believing and behaving.

I've said for weeks that the government message has been very vague and full of 'loopholes'. Queuing outside a supermarket is fine, all in a nice smart distanced line. Once inside? Soon forgotten. You have to bear in mind that we've all done what we want in terms of walking up and down any aisle for ever. We can't be expected to just change our habits. And while ever there are people like me being so cynical about 'the science', you're never going to achieve what you set out to achieve. You can try and limit the damage, of course, but eradicate it? Not a chance.

And let's not forget that this is Britain. A country of people who when they see a wet paint sign, have to touch it (the 'wet paint analogy' as I like to call it).

 

[YES Blade]

I think you sum up the feelings of what will eventually become the majority of folks. We are slowly drifting back to some semblance of "normality" because people are getting fed up of the status quo, they are confused by the messages, baffled by the contradictory science, bemused by the politicians and just generally want their lives back. I mean, the whole thing is a complete mess. There's been lots of examples of folks "breaking the rules" of late. This was Bicester shopping village yesterday for example...

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So, all this is going on, but we have to do a 3 bus trick to get our players to a game and we can't go inside and watch it? It won't last for much longer, that's all I can say. It's just not credible anymore and people have stopped believing and behaving.

In terms of deaths and new cases, the numbers just aren’t high enough to scare people anymore.

But the Premier League are always going to have to been seen to be doing the right thing. As usual football is an easy target, so they will want to avoid the negative headlines.

 

[Ron_Justice]

I read something earlier in the week re: social distancing and football - study's been done on player proximities and timings. It basically boiled down to this - on average a player, throughout a 90min match, will be within 2m of any 1 player for an average of 34 seconds per game.

I've no idea on how correct this is, but if you think about it, for the vast majority of the time, players are actively trying to avoid each other during a game. It's only in the box for corners / free kicks that they purposely come together and even then, the chaos that occurs in the area means you're never cheek and jowl with the same player time and time again. Add to that that it's all happening outdoors.

Compare all this to the 15 minutes of half time in a changing room, or the 90 mins of travel between Sheffield and Birmingham. I think you get the point.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I've said for weeks that the government message has been very vague and full of 'loopholes'. Queuing outside a supermarket is fine, all in a nice smart distanced line. Once inside? Soon forgotten. You have to bear in mind that we've all done what we want in terms of walking up and down any aisle for ever. We can't be expected to just change our habits. And while ever there are people like me being so cynical about 'the science', you're never going to achieve what you set out to achieve. You can try and limit the damage, of course, but eradicate it? Not a chance.

And let's not forget that this is Britain. A country of people who when they see a wet paint sign, have to touch it (the 'wet paint analogy' as I like to call it).

I like your "wet paint" analogy. That's very true - the human mind is a curious one. But also there's this thing called "instinct" and it doesn't have an off switch. When I pick up a loaf of bread I squeeze it to see if it feels fresh. When I buy eggs I pick up the box and open it to see if any of them are already on the way to becoming an omelette, and if so, I put it back. When I go to buy clothes I touch them to see what the fabric feels like. When I buy tins of beer (something I rarely used to do before lockdown) I pick up the tin to try and read the tiny writing to see what strength it is. I know I shouldn't be doing any of these things, but I can't help it! And neither can the majority of folks.

I was in Tesco Archer road a few weeks ago, I got to the checkout and realised I'd done my usual trick, forgot to bring a bag in with me. I'd got a load of them in my car boot but no way was I going to go back out to the car and queue to come back in again! So I saw these bags hanging on the end of the checkout and thought, "sod it, I'll have to buy one". I picked up this bag, then realised it wasn't a normal carrier bag, it was one of those with little partitions in it for carrying bottles, so I put it back. I heard this voice behind me say, "I wish folks wouldn't pick things up if they don't intend buying 'em".

I restrained myself from reacting, although it did cross my mind. I could have turned round and explained that it wasn't clear what type of bags these were, I could have said, I thought I wanted one but now I don't. I could have explained that even if that bag had been touched by someone with Covid-19 the chances of anyone catching it from touching it are practically zero. Because if the government and their advisors can't explain that to the general public then I think I'd probably struggle as well. So, I just sucked it up and bought a proper carrier bag when I got to the other end of the checkout, knowing that that bag had been touched by dozens of folks before me.

I just love living life on the edge!

 

[Cerberus Blade]

In terms of deaths and new cases, the numbers just aren’t high enough to scare people anymore.

But the Premier League are always going to have to been seen to be doing the right thing. As usual football is an easy target, so they will want to avoid the negative headlines.

I think in about 2 or 3 weeks time we'll be able to see if there's been any spike in transmission as a result of the mass gatherings that have taken place, for different reasons, in different parts of the country. My guess is that we will not see any evidence to suggest this has caused a problem. I think the death rate and infection rate will continue to fall and at that point there will be a total lifting of lockdown, or at least a further significant reduction. There needs to be.

I would like to see the 2 metre rule scrapped now. I'd be happy to see it scrapped altogether, but I think it will go to 1 metre first. That will be a lifeline for many businesses and 2 or 3 weeks on from there, if the infection rate continues to fall, it would be difficult to argue for anything other than a complete lifting of social distancing rules.

 

[Canterbury Blade]

There's been lots of examples of folks "breaking the rules" of late. This was Bicester shopping village yesterday for example...

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Right lads, no Magaluf or Kavos this year, but we are sorted and we are off to Bicester. I’m very reasssured from early scouting that the crumpet looks to be blossoming well this year....

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Right lads, no Magaluf or Kavos this year, but we are sorted and we off to Bicester. I’m very reasssured from early scouting that the crumpet looks to be blossoming well this year....

I was looking at holidays abroad the other day, with a view to booking somewhere in Greece in September. I think the quarantine thing will have gone away by then (in fact I think the quarantine thing will have gone away by the end of June). Jesus! Have you seen the prices? I'd say they are 3 or 4 times higher than what they normally are - and that's before you start looking at flights. It would be cheaper to go to Dubai! It may have to be Bicester then.

 

[blade67]

What a bunch of whiners.

It's all about a balance of risk and the EPL (or whoever sets the bar) has set strict rules for all the players benefit. One thing for sure is that getting this out side is much harder than getting it inside hence all the bigger changing rooms, smaller groups on the buses.

 

[mattbianco1]

Why even bother , playing a football match isn’t enough to make the other players quarantine if you test positive apparently

I don't get this bit. If you need to be in close proximity for 15minutes, why the need to socially distance in supermarkets etc. You don't follow a stranger closely for that long, 15seconds maybe

 

[Bladeloyal]

What is the point in any of that?
First of all everybody is tested and nobody has coronavirus so why is there a need for three coaches?
Similarly if nobody has it then why do special procedures need to be in place at the ground?
And if that did make any sense to start with, what’s the difference between the media room and the dressing room?

Hope the bus drivers have been tested

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Makes sense to me. Not sure what the outrage is. It's known outside is safer. And it's all about reducing risk, of which there is always going to be some, to as low as humanly possible.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

So presumably if we are defending a free kick then only players from Dressing Room A or B can be in the wall but not a mix of the two? Having listened to many epidemiologist's views over the course of the last few weeks it would seem if its safe enough to play football then its safe enough to get changed with team mates all this nonsense about not celebrating together and sitting apart on the bench is purely just for show in what is a contact sport?

There is going to be a much higher chance of getting it by sitting directly next to a teammate on a bus or dressing room for hours than by standing next to them in a wall for 30 seconds. You don’t really need to be a scientist or epidemiologist to understand that.

By eliminating any unnecessary close proximity on buses, in changing rooms and goal celebrations it allows the necessary contact of close marking and grappling at corners to take place.

Why do people care how players are transported to the match or where they get changed? As long as we get to see them chasing Europe on the pitch that’s all that bothers me.