CONFIRMED Rhian Brewster

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Really don't think the Woodburn thing is an issue, no offence to the kid but he's just toss

The obvious fact being brought up is we've contributed to Deano becoming Man Utd & England's #1 in-waiting, but look at the rest of the squad too..
Chris Basham statistically one of the best performing CBs in the entire PL last season, coaxing Moose back into fitness and firing (for a period at least), 3rd club in a row to be promoted with Norwood and 1st to give him his chance and let him dictate our midfield, gave time to the marquee signings in McBurnie and Berge to allow them to settle after having rough starts with us and already becoming players we're looking to build the rest of the team around

There is absolutely no doubt that other teams will see us as a great place for one of their players to develop, Brewster seems to have the right attitude too so a perfect fit
 

Onetouchfootball said:
You mean one of the lowest scoring forward lines in the league last year, that we are hoping that the defence keeps the same goals against column this season?
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In comparison to the rest of the league, how many chances did we create for our forwards?

I don't think anyone is saying that we don't need our forwards to do better, but incremental improvements all over the pitch will see us be less reliant on the defence holding firm. Better chance creation from the wing backs, more creativity from the midfield three AND the forward line having better chance conversion in addition to being in the box more.
 
SufcBilly said:
Sorry when did all our goalscorers from last season disappear?
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Only four teams scored less than us. And with us certain Mr. Lundstram put the ball in the net five times. Without his goals we would've been the third bottom club with regards to actually scoring. Well, anyways, I guess all those goalscorers mentioned by you are all still here, after all, so there's that, of course. And as for this upcoming season, surely Oli the Great/Mr Fabulous will suddenly prove himself with banging them, at least 15+ goals for him for sure. Leaves us with nothing really to discuss on this issue here. It's all okay, we'll be in Europe next season.
 
Onetouchfootball said:
Why?

I hope that we are not pinning our hopes on scoring enough goals to stay up next season on a 20 year old kid on loan.
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Didnt hurt Man U when they relied on greenwood and Rashford extensively - and not forgetting we already have 4 strikers. 2 of who are young and only going to improve at this level
 
Houso said:
In comparison to the rest of the league, how many chances did we create for our forwards?

I don't think anyone is saying that we don't need our forwards to do better, but incremental improvements all over the pitch will see us be less reliant on the defence holding firm. Better chance creation from the wing backs, more creativity from the midfield three AND the forward line having better chance conversion in addition to being in the box more.
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I don't disagree with anything that you have stated, but I just hope that we are not relying on a 20 year kid on loan to get the goals that we nee to stay up, especially if the defence concedes more next season.

We all know we need more quality "at the top of the pitch", but if we are just relying on a 20 year kid to provide that then????

Just out of interest, if you look at last season, we spent a lot games defending from front to back, and I personally don't see any different this season, so why do you think that our system or playing personnel will create more chances this season for the forward line?
 
WestSiberiaBlade said:
Only four teams scored less than us. And with us certain Mr. Lundstram put the ball in the net five times. Without his goals we would've been the third bottom club with regards to actually scoring. Well, anyways, I guess all those goalscorers mentioned by you are all still here, after all, so there's that, of course. And as for this upcoming season, surely Oli the Great/Mr Fabulous will suddenly prove himself with banging them, at least 15+ goals for him for sure. Leaves us with nothing really to discuss on this issue here. It's all okay, we'll be in Europe next season.
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Which forwards last season had lower conversion rates than what you'd find acceptable?
I'll give you Didsy, so him aside who statically missed a large percentage of chances so clearly needs upgrading?

Onetouchfootball said:
I don't disagree with anything that you have stated, but I just hope that we are not relying on a 20 year kid on loan to get the goals that we nee to stay up, especially if the defence concedes more next season.

We all know we need more quality "at the top of the pitch", but if we are just relying on a 20 year kid to provide that then????

Just out of interest, if you look at last season, we spent a lot games defending from front to back, and I personally don't see any different this season, so why do you think that our system or playing personnel will create more chances this season for the forward line?
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Which is why Brewster would be a great permanent signing, but isn't the loan option we need.
 
Houso said:
In comparison to the rest of the league, how many chances did we create for our forwards?
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Reyt. It was a sh*tty team last year. Didn't create anything. Let's get rid off all that underperforming midfield + Basham and JOC. Surely it was mainly their fault that our strikers didn't score any more goals? You really think so?
 
WestSiberiaBlade said:
Only four teams scored less than us. And with us certain Mr. Lundstram put the ball in the net five times. Without his goals we would've been the third bottom club with regards to actually scoring. Well, anyways, I guess all those goalscorers mentioned by you are all still here, after all, so there's that, of course. And as for this upcoming season, surely Oli the Great/Mr Fabulous will suddenly prove himself with banging them, at least 15+ goals for him for sure. Leaves us with nothing really to discuss on this issue here. It's all okay, we'll be in Europe next season.
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A lot of Wednesday fans on this forum.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Which forwards last season had lower conversion rates than what you'd find acceptable?
I'll give you Didsy, so him aside who statically missed a large percentage of chances so clearly needs upgrading?
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Said it before, say it again: strikers need to be able to create at least some chances by themselves, and actually try and succeed in putting the ball in the net from a kick from a far.
 
WestSiberiaBlade said:
Said it before, say it again: strikers need to be able to create at least some chances by themselves, and actually try and succeed in putting the ball in the net from a kick from a far.
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So you're blaming our forwards for playing to the style they're being coached in and continue to work the ball for high quality chances rather than shoot on sight?
In that case, yes we need new forwards to play in a different style to those we've currently got, and from how we've played for the past couple of years, but that ain't going to happen.
 

WestSiberiaBlade said:
Reyt. It was a sh*tty team last year. Didn't create anything. Let's get rid off all that underperforming midfield + Basham and JOC. Surely it was mainly their fault that our strikers didn't score any more goals? You really think so?
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What on earth are you talking about? I'm not slagging off the side. I'm stating a plain as day fact. We had created very few chances last season in comparison to the rest of the division.

What do you disagree with there?
 
Onetouchfootball said:
I don't disagree with anything that you have stated, but I just hope that we are not relying on a 20 year kid on loan to get the goals that we nee to stay up, especially if the defence concedes more next season.

We all know we need more quality "at the top of the pitch", but if we are just relying on a 20 year kid to provide that then????

Just out of interest, if you look at last season, we spent a lot games defending from front to back, and I personally don't see any different this season, so why do you think that our system or playing personnel will create more chances this season for the forward line?
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So who do you suggest we get?
 
WestSiberiaBlade said:
Said it before, say it again: strikers need to be able to create at least some chances by themselves, and actually try and succeed in putting the ball in the net from a kick from a far.
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In all honesty, I hope that you are not a Wendy fan (I don't think so?), but if you look at Southampton for instance, Ings created a lot of his own chances from probably 60/40 situations. I know that we can't afford the likes of Ings, but I know where you are coming from with this.

I knew that we couldn't afford an Ings, but was just hopping for a bit more than a 20 year old kid on loan TBH and at least someone that could put his self about a bit and give us a presence upfront to build from.
 
WestSiberiaBlade said:
Thought it was only the Wednesday fans who are unable to interpret simple stats, and do some basic maths. Seems like I was mistaken.
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You're being extraordinarily negative about one of United's best ever teams and league finishes (in modern history). Had to assume you're a troll.
 
WestSiberiaBlade said:
Said it before, say it again: strikers need to be able to create at least some chances by themselves, and actually try and succeed in putting the ball in the net from a kick from a far.
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You're the one ignoring basic stats and maths btw. i.e. Long range shots are rarely successful.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
So you're blaming our forwards for playing to the style they're being coached in and continue to work the ball for high quality chances rather than shoot on sight?
In that case, yes we need new forwards to play in a different style to those we've currently got, and from how we've played for the past couple of years, but that ain't going to happen.
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Nice to get a reaction by someone involved in coaching the team. Btw, did you give McBurnie a lot of stick for his goal vs. Brigton last year, as it was clearly in direct violation of your stated style of playing?
 
SufcBilly said:
So who do you suggest we get?
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It all depends on how much the owner is prepared to finance?

Lets be straight up here, we have swapped a owner family with not enough finances to establish a long term PL club project for another one that doesn't have the finances either, make know bones about it (it could only happen to us!).
 
Onetouchfootball said:
It all depends on how much the owner is prepared to finance?

Lets be straight up here, we have swapped a owner family with not enough finances to establish a long term PL club project for another one that doesn't have the finances either, make know bones about it (it could only happen to us!).
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I suggest you do some research on the Prince's financial commitment to the club before making accusations of his lack of funds.
 
Onetouchfootball said:
I don't disagree with anything that you have stated, but I just hope that we are not relying on a 20 year kid on loan to get the goals that we nee to stay up, especially if the defence concedes more next season.

We all know we need more quality "at the top of the pitch", but if we are just relying on a 20 year kid to provide that then????

Just out of interest, if you look at last season, we spent a lot games defending from front to back, and I personally don't see any different this season, so why do you think that our system or playing personnel will create more chances this season for the forward line?
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Depends on how good the “20 year old kid” is.
Sounds reasonably exciting to me.
 
WestSiberiaBlade said:
Nice to get a reaction by someone involved in coaching the team. Btw, did you give McBurnie a lot of stick for his goal vs. Brigton last year, as it was clearly in direct violation of your stated style of playing?
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WestSiberiaBlade said:
Thought it was only the Wednesday fans who are unable to interpret simple stats, and do some basic maths. Seems like I was mistaken.
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Quality response, although it's you who won't look at simple stats around the types of changes we create.
If you actually read my post I agreed with you, if you want us to change the way we've played for the past few years then you'll need new forwards.
If you're unable to see how we're setup to play, and want to snipe at us for not playing how you want us to play then crack on but as I said in my previous response, you're the one who'll be continually disappointed. I'm sure you'll continue to fascinate us all with your irrelevant insight on what isn't going to happen and how terrible it all is.
 
Onetouchfootball said:
It all depends on how much the owner is prepared to finance?

Lets be straight up here, we have swapped a owner family with not enough finances to establish a long term PL club project for another one that doesn't have the finances either, make know bones about it (it could only happen to us!).
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Not sure what you mean by it could only happen to us. It was clear from the start that the Prince wasn't a billionaire with money to waste on us, he was very much similar from a funding perspective to McCabe. The benefit was we had two of them rather than one.
Now we're in the mesters league we have more money coming in but have to stay within our means. If someone is out there who wants to spunk hundreds of millions on a Premier league vanity project I'm sure the Prince would listen to offers.
 

Flatulent_Bob said:
Not sure what you mean by it could only happen to us. It was clear from the start that the Prince wasn't a billionaire with money to waste on us, he was very much similar from a funding perspective to McCabe. The benefit was we had two of them rather than one.
Now we're in the mesters league we have more money coming in but have to stay within our means. If someone is out there who wants to spunk hundreds of millions on a Premier league vanity project I'm sure the Prince would listen to offers.
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Wasn't the American's prepared to pay over £100m for the club from the previous owner? A club finishing 9th in the Prem League you would expect to be worth £100m-£150m?

What did the current owner pay for the club £50-£60m?

We are where we are in terms of ownership, but like you said this is the big boys league now!
 
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