Quinn

[Liaminho9]

Now before everybody assumes that i'm going to tear into him, I'm not.

When he was subbed today, there seemed to be disruption on the bench, he sat down, Wilson and Barlow went over to him, there looked like arms waving and then Quinn took off his Boots and threw them to the side... Anybody see what happened?
I could be completely wrong, just what i thought i saw...

 

[Webding]

He was our best player first half, so I'd be pissed off too. But maybe he wasn't doing what he was told (the amount of times he drifted infield was ridiculous), and that's why they took him off. In which case, fair enough.

 

[super_pig]

perhaps he realised that he'd put his boots on the wrong feet

 

[Ballinpigpubs13]

Are we on about the same one footed player that constantly loses the ball, hits passes too hard that his team-mate hasn't a cat in hells chance of getting, or the same player that runs round in circles for five minutes without releasing the ball before losing it? etc etc etc

 

[Webding]

Most of the season, I'd agree with you; he's been terrible. But yesterday, I thought he did well first half. Put in a lot of effort, and actually did some decent things with the ball. I'm not saying he was great, but he was our best player til he was taken off. That we played better as a team after that point maybe says something though.

As for being one-footed, I fully agree, but apart from maybe 3-4 of the squad (and mainly defenders at that), it's a comment that can be levelled at most of our players. McDonald in particular takes an age to work it onto his right. It's embarrassing really, if I was as bad as some of them are with their weaker foot, I'd work on it. It is their job after all.

 

[anglian blade]

If we had had any strikers on the pitch in the first half Quinn would have added two or three to his assists tally

 

[God]

He was our best player first half, so I'd be pissed off too. But maybe he wasn't doing what he was told (the amount of times he drifted infield was ridiculous), and that's why they took him off. In which case, fair enough.

Any of you actually played football? He drifts inside to take the fullback/right midfilder with him to allow space for our leftback to exploit and get balls in the box ie as with LJF before he was injured and Hill to a lesser extent. Taylor was a bag of shite yesterday and wasn't up to the job. How many times did anyone see Taylor offer Quinn any support whatsover??????? next time Man U play watch and see where giggs drifts when hes played evra in outside him. DOI !!!!!

 

[sheffielder]

I am one of Quinn's biggest fans, however I don't want to see him in a United shirt again. He gave up

 

[Webding]

Any of you actually played football? He drifts inside to take the fullback/right midfilder with him to allow space for our leftback to exploit and get balls in the box ie as with LJF before he was injured and Hill to a lesser extent. Taylor was a bag of shite yesterday and wasn't up to the job. How many times did anyone see Taylor offer Quinn any support whatsover??????? next time Man U play watch and see where giggs drifts when hes played evra in outside him. DOI !!!!!

Sorry, Sir Alex. Didn't realise we were in the presence if a tactical mastermind.

Maybe Wilson wanted width to pull their midfield and defence across, so that switching play catches them out? Maybe he didn't want Quinn turning up on the other side, leaving us potentially ill-equipped to deal with attacks down our left? Maybe he'd had enough of him dropping deep to get the ball, leaving gaps in midfield? Or maybe it was none of these things, and he thought Quinn was crap. Whatever, I was just offering a reason as to why he came off.

 

[sitwell]

He was excellent for the first 20 minutes ,because he didnt have a second touch ,he hit early balls into the box which should have been converted ,then he stopped and reverted back to what hes been doing for the past 2 months ,which is why Wilson rightly brought him off. Flynn set up a goal with in minutes and we improved greatly. Sheffielder is right he gave up ,he played a good ball across to Williamson on the half way line and then simply strolled forward leaving no far post option ,when he does that going forward added to his lack of effort chasing back hes a waste of a shirt.
Like I keep saying he has the ability ,but I dont think his heart has been with United since the Blackpool rumours ,and I think he (and us) would be better with him going elsewhere.

 

[gavtheblade]

hes pants.

 

[God]

He was excellent for the first 20 minutes ,because he didnt have a second touch ,he hit early balls into the box which should have been converted ,then he stopped and reverted back to what hes been doing for the past 2 months ,which is why Wilson rightly brought him off. Flynn set up a goal with in minutes and we improved greatly. Sheffielder is right he gave up ,he played a good ball across to Williamson on the half way line and then simply strolled forward leaving no far post option ,when he does that going forward added to his lack of effort chasing back hes a waste of a shirt.
Like I keep saying he has the ability ,but I dont think his heart has been with United since the Blackpool rumours ,and I think he (and us) would be better with him going elsewhere.

Agreed as Quinny isn't an out and out winger (we forgot that?) Flynn did indeed offer a better wide option and we looked better. But he too had no suppot from Taylor and had to track back and do his job fo him on a couple of occassions. There seems to be a lot of assuming as to why Wislon dragged him off even though he was far from the worst player on the pitch. Maybe it was just tactical and not for the way he was playing. I'd be sad to see Quinn go but it may be best for his career as a lot of fans have just got it in for him no matter how he plays.

 

[God]

I am one of Quinn's biggest fans, however I don't want to see him in a United shirt again. He gave up

I'd have given up with that wanker behind me!!!!!!!!!!

 

[God]

Sorry, Sir Alex. Didn't realise we were in the presence if a tactical mastermind.

Maybe Wilson wanted width to pull their midfield and defence across, so that switching play catches them out? Maybe he didn't want Quinn turning up on the other side, leaving us potentially ill-equipped to deal with attacks down our left? Maybe he'd had enough of him dropping deep to get the ball, leaving gaps in midfield? Or maybe it was none of these things, and he thought Quinn was crap. Whatever, I was just offering a reason as to why he came off.

Dont you think bringing the full back up creating an extra man pulls the defence across then???? look at the other side at what Willo and Lowton do. The winger has to drift inside to do this. Dropping deep? if the defence drops deep he has to follow otherwise it creates a great void in midfiled resulting in the defence having to play long balls to cover the space. I dont see a thread slagging K Mac for doing the same.

You're quite entitled to your opinion. as everyone is. Maybe youd like to offer one as to why Taylor came off too? Heres mine first. He was crap.

 

[sheffielder]

I'd have given up with that wanker behind me!!!!!!!!!!

Then I don't want you on my team either

 

[Webding]

I'm not even slagging Quinn, as I said I thought he played pretty well for once. I wouldn't have taken him off.

 

[VespaBlade]

I'm gonna start calling him Spiral from now on cos at one point yesterday he got the ball and spun round about 8 times trying to get it onto his left foot.
'Just try your right foot once Quinny it might just go where you want it too!!'

And I agree he totally gave up just before he was took off.

 

[Sheff de party]

i think the criticism is harsh. i only watched it on tv and im not alex ferguson, but:

he looked like the only player who wanted to win in the first 15 mins.
if porter had any talent whatsoever, we'd have been 1 up thanks to quinns cross within 30 seconds.
yes quinns a maverick, drifts a bit but when we have right wingers who stay wide, whats wrong with mixing it up.
he holds onto the ball too long because no one (at least yesterday) wants it off him.

i thought he was very unlucky to get subbed, honestly i did. that said, Flynn did make a difference when he came on.

 

[Bakewell Blade]

He's been poor for the last few months, infact since the first four or five games of the season when he looked like a world beater. I would have started with flynn yesterday, I thought he made a difference at MK. Quinny seems to drop too deep and too close to our fullback in my opinion where the full back should be traveling with the ball instead quinny's trying to take it off his toes and ends up playing a cross from the half way line which really is bread and butter for center halfs

 

[JohnDenver]

He's been poor for the last few months, infact since the first four or five games of the season when he looked like a world beater. I would have started with flynn yesterday, I thought he made a difference at MK. Quinny seems to drop too deep and too close to our fullback in my opinion where the full back should be traveling with the ball instead quinny's trying to take it off his toes and ends up playing a cross from the half way line which really is bread and butter for center halfs

Agree with that. His roaming can be useful when a game is in midfield stalemate, but too often it's been counter-productive.

I can't remember a player who has such peaks and troughs in form. He's not inconsistent so much as seasonal.

 

[gavtheblade]

i think the criticism is harsh. i only watched it on tv and im not alex ferguson, but:

he looked like the only player who wanted to win in the first 15 mins.
if porter had any talent whatsoever, we'd have been 1 up thanks to quinns cross within 30 seconds.
yes quinns a maverick, drifts a bit but when we have right wingers who stay wide, whats wrong with mixing it up.
he holds onto the ball too long because no one (at least yesterday) wants it off him.

i thought he was very unlucky to get subbed, honestly i did. that said, Flynn did make a difference when he came on.

yes,flynn did make an impact yesterday-next week he should start,in for quinn-porter and o`halleron out-cressy and beattie start,we looked a lot more dangerous in attack when the changes were made,i dont think porter and o`halleron are the best attacking options.
and i also thought willo was far too deep yesterday imo.

 

[bladesadviser]

He has been bad that his fellow professionals thought him worthy of their vote last weekend to get him in the league 1 team of the year

 

[God]

He's been poor for the last few months, infact since the first four or five games of the season when he looked like a world beater. I would have started with flynn yesterday, I thought he made a difference at MK. Quinny seems to drop too deep and too close to our fullback in my opinion where the full back should be traveling with the ball instead quinny's trying to take it off his toes and ends up playing a cross from the half way line which really is bread and butter for center halfs

Thats the point!!!!!!!! the fullback should be coming up with the ball like Lowton does. Except that Taylor can't cos he's toss!!!!!!! So Quinn finds himself having to drop and take the ball off him. Dont know if anyone concurs, but I think Quinny hasn't been quite the same since LJF got injured. A fullback that CAN carry the ball, play one twos go on the overlap and get crosses in, unlike Taylor. He must have been dizzy yesterday the amount of times he got spun round. Embarrassing.

 

[God]

He has been bad that his fellow professionals thought him worthy of their vote last weekend to get him in the league 1 team of the year

Exactly, he's that shit his fellow professionals want him in their team. But of course they know jack. He's that shit and one footed, only passes the ball backwards and sideways, gawd knows how hes managed to make 15 goals. He's that shit he was player of the year and players player of the year last season.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

He's that shit and one footed, only passes the ball backwards and sideways, gawd knows how hes managed to make 15 goals.

And that's only the goals where he's supplied the final pass. He's been a key contributor in 32 goals this season.

 

[Balham]

My issue with Quinn is that he tries to do too much. Quite why he ended up on the right side during open play is beyond me.

If he stopped going everywhere looking for the ball he'd be a better player for it. He was excellent in the first 20 minutes: if Porter had any natural goalscoring ability he'd have scored twice. After that, Stevenage shut off the supply but instead of offering for the 15-20 yard pass, Quinn went looking for the 5 yard ball.

It's all very well slagging Taylor off but Quinn has to shoulder some of the blame for our left side being less effective than the right.

 

[God]

I

My issue with Quinn is that he tries to do too much. Quite why he ended up on the right side during open play is beyond me.

If he stopped going everywhere looking for the ball he'd be a better player for it. He was excellent in the first 20 minutes: if Porter had any natural goalscoring ability he'd have scored twice. After that, Stevenage shut off the supply but instead of offering for the 15-20 yard pass, Quinn went looking for the 5 yard ball.

It's all very well slagging Taylor off but Quinn has to shoulder some of the blame for our left side being less effective than the right.

I agree with most of that. He does try to do too much at times. As i've posted somewhere I dont think Quinnys been as good since LJFs demise though. I thought they had a good understanding down the left side, working it well together, with Quinny not needing to drop back or inside too much. I dont think the Quinn/ Taylor combination works anywhere near, in fact I think it just doesn't work, period! so for me the moral would be Good left back and Quinn does better. Shite left back and he's struggling.

 

[God]

i think the criticism is harsh. i only watched it on tv and im not alex ferguson, but:

I am.........................apparently!!!!!!!!

 

[little di]

Most of the season, I'd agree with you; he's been terrible. But yesterday, I thought he did well first half. Put in a lot of effort, and actually did some decent things with the ball. I'm not saying he was great, but he was our best player til he was taken off. That we played better as a team after that point maybe says something though.

As for being one-footed, I fully agree, but apart from maybe 3-4 of the squad (and mainly defenders at that), it's a comment that can be levelled at most of our players. McDonald in particular takes an age to work it onto his right. It's embarrassing really, if I was as bad as some of them are with their weaker foot, I'd work on it. It is their job after all.

Spot on, if we're talking about positive contributions then Quinns early balls into the box were the highlights of our game. I know McDonald can play but he was as guilty as anyone else of giving the ball away cheaply yesterday. We were very disjointed in the main yesterday, Porters early miss really didn't help and Williamson was invisible for the most part. Let's not single Quinn out, we were collectively all over the shop.

On a seperate note, that fat lad in the middle for them looked a far more dangerous player and maybe we should think about going twos up on him in the play offs because he caused problems till he went off.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

He was excellent for the first 20 minutes ,because he didnt have a second touch ,he hit early balls into the box which should have been converted ,then he stopped and reverted back to what hes been doing for the past 2 months ,which is why Wilson rightly brought him off. Flynn set up a goal with in minutes and we improved greatly. Sheffielder is right he gave up ,he played a good ball across to Williamson on the half way line and then simply strolled forward leaving no far post option ,when he does that going forward added to his lack of effort chasing back hes a waste of a shirt.
Like I keep saying he has the ability ,but I dont think his heart has been with United since the Blackpool rumours ,and I think he (and us) would be better with him going elsewhere.

Sooner he goes the better. Most of the time he looks out of his depth in the third division.
Blackpool hardly seem to be setting their sights high.
Overall he was a disgrace yesterday.