Quinn

[sitwell]

In my opinion he's one of the worst players ever to wear a Sheffield United shirt ,relentlessly gives the ball away runs into wrong areas leaves other players exposed and offers absolutely nothing. I listened to that prick ,Brian on RS last night praising him saying how he covered every blade of grass ,but its all pointless in the way football is played no matter what the system. The last Burnley goal was down to him charging down the pitch and not chasing back, waving Evans to get back for him when it was too late ,and then the usual sink to the turf holding his stupid ginger head in his hands. Time after time Burnley exploited us yesterday through Quinn ,he offers absolutely nothing defensively or offensively ,quite simply miles out his depth and costing us points.

 

[Superblades]

To be fair to Quinny in the first half he made some decent runs which had Boggy and Britton had played the ball through he would have been 1 on 1. However we insisted on getting the ball wide. However Yes he can be a frustrating player to watch.

 

[SwissBlade]

Wow, you saw a different game to me Sitwell. Thought Quinn was excellent yesterday and he slotted in well in the middle - hard for me to say as I have been convinced that he is shit through the middle.

Jordan at fault on their 3rd.

 

[lenners]

Got to say Quinn had a more than decent game yesterday, particularly second half, and contributed much more than Britton who struggled.

 

[Guesty]

Wow, you saw a different game to me Sitwell. Thought Quinn was excellent yesterday and he slotted in well in the middle - hard for me to say as I have been convinced that he is shit through the middle.

Jordan at fault on their 3rd.

Hard to tell really. Yes it was in the Left Back position, but if Jordan had come inside the deal with the attack, maybe it was Quinn's responsibillity to cover him.

 

[blades1889]

In my opinion he's one of the worst players ever to wear a Sheffield United shirt

i agree

 

[Houso]

While I'm not a fan and he's been massively disappointing in a 'passing side' since Speed came in, he's clearly not one of the worst players to pull on a Blades shirt.

He was good when we were in the Prem and has never reproduced that form. Considering some of the dross we've had at the Lane, he's not even top 50 in this category.

 

[JohnDenver]

Considering some of the dross we've had at the Lane, he's not even top 50 in this category.

The very definition of being damned with faint praise.

Quinn did OK, but the reason he's in the side is he breaks forward from deep and offers a goal threat. Monty does not.

Williamson is the missing piece of the puzzle. Patience is required....

 

[sitwell]

Wow, you saw a different game to me Sitwell. Thought Quinn was excellent yesterday and he slotted in well in the middle - hard for me to say as I have been convinced that he is shit through the middle.

Jordan at fault on their 3rd.

If you thought Quinn was 'excellent' I'm afraid our standards are going to be very low, there are better players in the Under 18's league , and I honestly mean that. I think he is a very very poor footballer but a good con man.

 

[Pinchy]

He was, as usual, absolutely dreadful. He runs around a lot but to no avail whatsoever. The game simply passes him by, however hard he tries to keep up. He is lightweight, lacking in composure and determined to elpiton at every opportunity. In short, he is (just like his clueless mate who wasted a shirt on the bench yesterday) an absolute pleasure to play against.

The pennies are beginning to drop. Anti-Footballers Out!

 

[JohnDenver]

He was, as usual, absolutely dreadful. He runs around a lot but to no avail whatsoever. The game simply passes him by, however hard he tries to keep up. He is lightweight, lacking in composure and determined to elpiton at every opportunity. In short, he is (just like his clueless mate who wasted a shirt on the bench yesterday) an absolute pleasure to play against.

The pennies are beginning to drop. Anti-Footballers Out!

Which side of the divide does Ertl fit into?

 

[mickle-blade]

In my opinion he's one of the worst players ever to wear a Sheffield United shirt ,relentlessly gives the ball away runs into wrong areas leaves other players exposed and offers absolutely nothing. I listened to that prick ,Brian on RS last night praising him saying how he covered every blade of grass ,but its all pointless in the way football is played no matter what the system. The last Burnley goal was down to him charging down the pitch and not chasing back, waving Evans to get back for him when it was too late ,and then the usual sink to the turf holding his stupid ginger head in his hands. Time after time Burnley exploited us yesterday through Quinn ,he offers absolutely nothing defensively or offensively ,quite simply miles out his depth and costing us points.

He may not be the worst but he certainly is a complete waste of a shirt. If that is the best we can do for a midfielder then I really do fear the worst.
He should be sold on in January to somewhere he can try to get back some of his early promise.
Do a deal with Rovrum for Le Fondre. He had a good spell there.

 

[Pinchy]

Which side of the divide does Ertl fit into?

I was very impressed with his performance at Derby JD, but the more I see, the less I like!

I would love to re-unite the former Doncaster pair of Stock and Wellens. What a difference we would see, compared to our mediocre scufflers.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I would love to re-unite the former Doncaster pair of Stock and Wellens. What a difference we would see, compared to our mediocre scufflers.

That would be fantastic, but sadly Stock seems to have developed into a bit of a crock over the last year, could be another Wiliamson.

 

[sitwell]

Stock isn't injured ,he just can't get a shirt ,would certainly like Wellens though.
Anything but Quinn.

 

[super_pig]

stock, woolford, la fondre, maynard.. any of them.. make it quick

 

[bricktop]

I think Stephen Quinn is a bit of an enigma. When he look's whats happening around him, and when he takes the time to play a ball he can be devastating on a fine midfielder on his day, but he seems to a player who all too often runs down blind alley's and is quick to treat the ball like a hot potato.

We've been waiting for him to make the make the great leap forwards for roughly 4 years now, and it still ain't happening.

If Speed gets some leeway in the transfer market i'd be quite happy to see Michael Tonge back here for a while on a loan

 

[super_pig]

>i'd be quite happy to see Michael Tonge
nnooooo.. and the kyles, killa, lord brown.. not this one again

 

[Elsecar_Blade]

Hard to tell really. Yes it was in the Left Back position, but if Jordan had come inside the deal with the attack, maybe it was Quinn's responsibillity to cover him.

The problem was that Quinn had bust a gut to get forward and was completely knackered in the left forward position when they began their break.

There were three mistakes there for me:

1. Evans - as the sub with the legs still fresh - should have dropped into midfield immediately to cover Quinn. He reacted far too late and Marney (I think) had time to set up the attack down the right for Burnley;

2. Jordan - not sure about this one but he did seem to be out of position. Was he pulled out by good play or was it bad positional sense?

3. Lowton - hard to knock a young kid but he is a full back and should have reacted far quicker to the gaping hole behind Jordan. Rodriguez was stood for a good few seconds waiting for the ball. If Lowton had reacted faster, maybe he could have got the block in.

As for Quinn, he's not great, no, but he is better than Montgomery going forward. Until we get chance to bring someone in or we get Willo fit, I'd prefer to see him than Monty at t'Lane. I thought he had a decent game yesterday - admittedly by his own recent poor standards - and criticism of him is a little unfair today.

 

[oldblade]

If Speed gets some leeway in the transfer market i'd be quite happy to see Michael Tonge back here for a while on a loan

I agree with that. A very unfairly maligned player during his last couple of seasons here. And since he left, I cannot think of even one midfield player who we've signed that has been even as good as him let alone better than him.

 

[sitwell]

The problem was that Quinn had bust a gut to get forward and was completely knackered in the left forward position when they began their break.

There were three mistakes there for me:

1. Evans - as the sub with the legs still fresh - should have dropped into midfield immediately to cover Quinn. He reacted far too late and Marney (I think) had time to set up the attack down the right for Burnley;

2. Jordan - not sure about this one but he did seem to be out of position. Was he pulled out by good play or was it bad positional sense?

3. Lowton - hard to knock a young kid but he is a full back and should have reacted far quicker to the gaping hole behind Jordan. Rodriguez was stood for a good few seconds waiting for the ball. If Lowton had reacted faster, maybe he could have got the block in.

As for Quinn, he's not great, no, but he is better than Montgomery going forward. Until we get chance to bring someone in or we get Willo fit, I'd prefer to see him than Monty at t'Lane. I thought he had a decent game yesterday - admittedly by his own recent poor standards - and criticism of him is a little unfair today.

The problem was that Quinn had bust a gut to get forward, just what we didn't want when we had brought the game back level ,Speed intimated that someone was 'in for it' for being naive and Quinn was the one and he knew it ,he is experienced enough to know this now. I agree with the Evans point though ,he should have made the effort to get back when he saw the situation ,my 11 year old was screaming at them both ,so if he can see it surely they can.
I disagree about Quinn/Montgomery ,although he is limited Monty is a great enforcer ,Quinn offer nothing and isn't fit to lace his boots.

 

[Elsecar_Blade]

The problem was that Quinn had bust a gut to get forward, just what we didn't want when we had brought the game back level ,Speed intimated that someone was 'in for it' for being naive and Quinn was the one and he knew it ,he is experienced enough to know this now. I agree with the Evans point though ,he should have made the effort to get back when he saw the situation ,my 11 year old was screaming at them both ,so if he can see it surely they can.
I disagree about Quinn/Montgomery ,although he is limited Monty is a great enforcer ,Quinn offer nothing and isn't fit to lace his boots.

It was a naive move from Quinn but I for one am not going to slate him for it. I wanted United to go on and win the game - we were at home - and I reckon 90% of Blades fans would have encouraged Quinn to take that risk. I heard Speed and knew he meant Quinn and if I'm honest, I hope that Speed doesn't have a go at the lad for it. Away, yes, stupidity. Home, being brave and trying to win the game. That'll do me.

Evans had to react and drop into midfield at that moment. And I reckon kids aged less than your 11 year old could have said as much as well!

Quinn/Monty is a tough call. I'd go with Quinn at home and Monty away. Quinn offers one thing that Monty doesn't - a goal threat. Whilst there are many arguments about why Monty is better than Quinn, the fact is that Quinn played and we scored three goals. If Monty had played, we wouldn't have got three. We might not have conceded three either but that's a debate to have! At home when we want to win the game, I'd go with the goal threat that Quinn gives us - he can finish as his scoring record shows. Away, I'd go Monty and be more solid.

 

[Bergen Blade]

For their third goal we have enough players back to deal with the situation. The problem is that we become ball watching and get pulled out of positions.

BTW, the way both Morgan and Nosworthy seems focused on players that have drifted wide-ish (rather than keeping a "normal" distance between them in front of Simonsen) suggests that we may keep an emphasis on man marking like under Blackwell. Speed blaming Quinn (if that's what he meant) would back that up.

 

[sitwell]

I don't know if you were there Bergen but I don't think you get a true picture from TV ,the context of the action and the view of the whole pitch. I don't recall Quinn making one positive contribution yesterday ,I honestly think he is an awful excuse for a footballer.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Stephen Quinn has scored more goals for us than Jamie Ward and Ched Evans put together.

I agree with that. A very unfairly maligned player during his last couple of seasons here. And since he left, I cannot think of even one midfield player who we've signed that has been even as good as him let alone better than him.

Greg Halford.

 

[Kev Gee]

He had a shocker yesterday didnt he. Ran around alot though.

 

[oldblade]

Stephen Quinn has scored more goals for us than Jamie Ward and Ched Evans put together.



Greg Halford.

Possibly. Not sure. He was probably more versatile - and a better centre forward! But for me Tonge was a better midfield player. But we never saw Halford play in central midfield. Maybe if he had done so I may have come to a different conclusion.

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I disagree about Quinn/Montgomery ,although he is limited Monty is a great enforcer ,Quinn offer nothing and isn't fit to lace his boots.

The premier league win against Spurs is one illustration of that. Montgomery played an absolute blinder and together with Tonge completely controlled the midfield, when pitted against supposedly far superior players.

In fact much to my surprise, I felt Montgomery played some of his best games for us during that season. I had expected his limitations to be exposed quite mercilessly. But that wasn't how it turned out at all.

 

[Bergen Blade]

I don't know if you were there Bergen but I don't think you get a true picture from TV ,the context of the action and the view of the whole pitch. I don't recall Quinn making one positive contribution yesterday ,I honestly think he is an awful excuse for a footballer.

I wasn't there but I did not comment on something I didn't see on the video. From what I watched I'll maintain that we had enough players back to deal with the situation. The photo shows that we have 7 players in our own box, and I guess Calve at right back may be the 8th, probably just outside the photo.

In a very strict man marking system the opposition right back is supposed to be marked by our left midfielder, and if he goes missing there is no real back up plan, as the other players have their men to follow. I personally think it's a secondary system to zonal marking, but if that is what the players are instructed to do, and we were really happy with the 2-2 score, Quinn should probably not have made the attacking run, if it allowed the opposition right back to break forward. Sounds a bit negative though?

 

[DuncDisorderly]

The entire left side of defence in this image from Britton, Morgs, Nos, Jordon, (I think) got caught out ball watching when it got chipped over them. The two Burnley players were left with only Lowton (I think) anywhere near, and he was too remote and out of position and didn't track Rodrigues either.

Speeds comments were about our nievity at 2-2 in not performing the defensive duties. Certainly on any other day we would have lost un-necessarily...

 

[alcoblade]

If Speed gets some leeway in the transfer market i'd be quite happy to see Michael Tonge back here for a while on a loan

Please no. At his best he was slow and a poor tackler. I thought he was utterly shite in midfield and preferred him on the left. Several years later with hardly any footbal under his belt, I'd consider this a real step backwards and a terrible waste of scant resource.

If we're to make only a few changes, which I'd bet we are, surely we need to set pace as a minimum bar.

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