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Poor first half followed the ever so famiar pattern. United have two cleared off the line and then gift wrap yet another staggeringly bad goal from a set piece.

Second half nearly all United. Decent display without luck or sufficient quality. Plenty of great positions and corners, a miracle save from their keeper, and a baffling inabity to latch onto the loose ball in their area. A few chants of sack the board. One of your not fit to wear the shirt.

Another loss to a very poor Derby side. They celebrated like it keeps them up. The Blades charity shop does more good work for needy opponents.

Ratings:

Simonsen: 7 hardly troubled but a couple of decent saves.
Nos: 6 more randomness but no ricks.
Lowton: 5 ok but needs to play on the right.
Collins: 5 not pressured but looks ordinary
Ertl: 5 never been a centre back but filled in ok
Quinn: 7 drive commitment and decent passing
Doyle: 4 Monty without the athleticism
Willo: 5 not influential enough
Riise: 8 terrific second half. All purpose and positivity with Premiership poise. Gave everything and looked devastated at the end.
Ched: 6 a few good moments
Cress: 4 served no purpose

Subs: 3 did nowt between them.

Ref: 6 fussy but added time for Derby time wasting. No shockers.

MOM: Riise.
 

Pains me to say it but thought Quinn was MOTM.
Creswell bobbar again.
In general the team look more like a set of strangers to each other every week.
 
We were abysmal against a shocking Derby side who were there for the taking. Zero quality, no pace, no creativity, no idea. We had most of the ball but could still be playing now and still wouldn't have scored. Quinn & Riise apart I wouldn't give anyone more than a 4. A fucking disgrace in all honesty.
 
I loved the way that Gary Sinclair shouted enthusiastically '.....SIX minutes of added time!' when the rest of the ground knew that they could have been playing for another six hours and not scored.
 
Quinn MOTM. Riise and Willo did really well too. Just a shame about the rest.

In regards to Willo not being effective enough-we weren't playing balls on the floor through the middle which is what he would be able to provide. We insisted time and time again on a Nos overlap which was terrible, and constantly floated balls into the box-never a driven cross for someone to attack.

I know we had two off the line, but the Derby defenders seemed to have an age to get to them to clear them, no conviction to our finishing. A good strike and they would have both been in.

Simmo amazed me by coming out on top on the one on one, only thing he had to do all game and he did it well.

That's about all I can say about the match, the rest were a shower of shite. Loads of possession, but never looked like getting anything from it. Bar another example of woeful defending for their goal it would have ended 0-0.

Derby seemed to celebrate like it was a cup final at the end.
 
Highlight for me was the tannoy packing up just when Gaz was going to start shouting us again. Enjoyed Gaz-free half-time much more than anything on the pitch.
 
ShockingBadBuy said:
Highlight for me was the tannoy packing up just when Gaz was going to start shouting us again. Enjoyed Gaz-free half-time much more than anything on the pitch.
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Indeed - an enjoyable blip in an otherwise wretched time in the ground today.

Today's the lowest point the club has been in the 20 years I've been following United. There have been worse footballing displays, and moments that were more upsetting (e.g. the Wigan game), but I can't remember leaving a game with a worse view of our immediate prospects. We are heading to League 1, and like our neighbours have found, it will be tough to immediately return.
 
On a positive note, we got into some great positions out wide - down the left in the first half, through Quinn, and down the right, through Nosworthy and Riise, in the 2nd half. Straight into the negatives after that - Noworthy was easily our best crosser of the ball. Riise never quite delivered from the good positions he found himself in, the ref and some bad tackles stopped Quinny putting the icing on his lovely Irish carrot cake and Lowton's suffered for being out of position and lacking in composure.

Williamson looks a good player but it's like watching someone who is on the verge of retirement, you never know whether he'll get up after each tackle. A class act though.

Evans is a bit like Rooney has been at times in his career at the moment. Phenomenal workrate (despite plenty labelling him as lazy) but all too often he's chasing it wide and trying to do everything himself when he should be concentrating on sticking it in the net.

The defence was laughable early on and the goal was another in a long series of incredibly bad fuck ups from set pieces. They settled down after that though and, even though it's not saying much, Collins was better than he was on Tuesday.

For the second game on the bounce, we looked a lot worse for making the substitutions. We lose all our shape when we lob on centre forwards willy nilly. Bent and Evans seemed to be wide, Boggy was in midfield and we had no one on the end of the long balls and crosses.

We're going down, certain about that. Still very worried about two relegations on the bounce but impossible to second guess what will happen in the summer. I'd feel OK if we were going into L1 with Evans, Quinn, Montgomery and a fit Morgan and Williamson - the reality might be very different though.
 
cooperblade said:
I'd feel OK if we were going into L1 with Evans, Quinn, Montgomery and a fit Morgan and Williamson - the reality might be very different though.
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Think about promotion squads you've seen. I'm thinking you'll remember '88, '89 and 2006.

Now look at our squad. I'm afraid to say that we're miles away. And every window we seem to emerge weaker.

I'll take a comfortable top half finish with plenty of youngsters emerging. Anything more requires serious money.
 
Have a look at League One. It's dominated by footballing teams. The only people who should feel OK about us going into League One with that pair of resource-draining liabilities Ploddy and Elpiton are League One midfielders. They will have them chasing shadows as usual. Will you never learn?

I really despair.
 
Pinchy said:
Have a look at League One. It's dominated by footballing teams. The only people who should feel OK about us going into League One with that pair of resource-draining liabilities Ploddy and Elpiton are League One midfielders. They will have them chasing shadows as usual. Will you never learn?

I really despair.
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Oh Pinchy, your obsession with those two is scary. One didn't play and the other, by a country mile, was our best player (not difficult yesterday, but he displayed qualities some of the more discerning of us always knew was present).
How can you deflect from yesterday's turgid showing and certain descent to who knows where, to another shameless attack on NM & SQ.
A new low, even by your standards ...
 

pinchy.. elpiton was our best player yesterday.. even 'i' have to admit that.. he was all over the fucking place (in the best sense).. his postion is definitely on the left cos he doesn't have to elpiton
p.s. bobbar.. meh.. not heard that in donks :)
 
de-barrr de-barrrr, de-barrrrr, de-barrrrrrr
 
heh.. quality :D (private joke .. sorry!).. nice one.. wonder what 'they' are up to these days??
 
super_pig said:
pinchy.. elpiton was our best player yesterday.. even 'i' have to admit that.. he was all over the fucking place (in the best sense).. his postion is definitely on the left cos he doesn't have to elpiton
p.s. bobbar.. meh.. not heard that in donks :)
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Along with Riise he was, I agree. I also agree that he does less harm playing wide than the nonsense he displays in the centre. However, a couple of good games doesn't make up for dozens of appalling ones.

Does he have more to offer than his excruciatingly limited partner in crime The Maestro? Yes he does.
 
I must admit I enjoyed actually being able to talk to my friend at half time. When the tannoy started working again we had to give up. I hope Gary's "Team of engineers" who were working on the problem can find the volume control and just turn it down from 10 to about seven. (on the south stand)

I don't understand the "let's lob five centre forwards on at once" thinking either. All it means is that you're asking 3 of them to play in an unfamiliar role where they won't be as effective as, lets say, someone who does actually play and practise playing in that position. I think the only chance we had was from our full back despite having all those strikers on. It's not like they each made different runs in the box to get in front of the defender or the keeper. They all adopted the stand behind the defender position.
 
Sticking 4 strikers on at once is a desperate measure, and it does show how tactically limited Adams is as a manager.
 
4 attackers and two midfielders seemed a bit 'subbuteo' to us. as for elption, credit where it's due i say .. but dont' worry pinchy.. the maestro is beyond redemption AFAIC :)
 
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