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bladesadviser said:
Only on a Blades forum would fans be saying we don't want a manager who has taken a very unfashionable club such as Stoke out of the division we are in, then got them promoted to the premier league and kept them there.

In other news lets get excited about Karl Robinson who has achieved nothing
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I could write a book entitled "Only on a Blades' Forum"............it wouldn't be entirely flattering.
 
In my heart of hearts I don't think it matters who is our next manager, with cockstain in charge he will have no players to play hoof or on the deck.
 
I still worry that some think we are going to get promoted playing one touch 18 passes back to front football .

Our sole aim is to get out of this division so we need winning football, how its achieved is of no interest in reality , we can do what wednesday did for me buy all 6 foot 4 inch basketball players and lump it in the box , get up and claim we play good football, the only priority is to finish top 2 how we do it doesnt matter a jot .
 
Pulis wasn't popular in his first spell at Stoke and there was dismay amongst a large proportion of their (at that time quite small) fanbase when he came back in 2006 for his second spell in charge. In the season they went up, there were very vociferous Pulis Out protests, although it went quieter as the season wore on.

The football has largely been unwatchable, despite Pulis bringing in better footballers, N'Zonzi for example, and despite years of sell out crowds, people are starting to vote with their feet. I know plenty of "fans" who aren't renewing their season tickets. I suspect Coates has acted early to persuade the non-renewers to part with their cash.

On balance, I wouldn't want him and we shouldn't forget that he didn't turn things round overnight, so we wouldn't be guaranteeing success next season.
 
Jim Chimmerney said:
Just reading his profile, his 'notable' managerial signings include;

Ade Akinbiyi, Steve Simonsen, Lilian Nalis, Vincent Pericard and Lee Hendrie. Not to mention, more recently Tonge, Beattie, Higginbotham and Kitson. seems to be able to spot a player ;)
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Be as scornful as you want. He has managed to turn Stoke into an established mid table premier league side. Something we haven't been for many, many years.
 
Trigger Blade said:
The football has largely been unwatchable, despite Pulis bringing in better footballers, N'Zonzi for example, and despite years of sell out crowds, people are starting to vote with their feet. I know plenty of "fans" who aren't renewing their season tickets. I suspect Coates has acted early to persuade the non-renewers to part with their cash.
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That's right. Some people confuse Stoke with a 'small' team who perform giant-killing acts. In reality, they're the nearest thing to Don Revie's Dirty Leeds Bastard Brigade - 'fuck you and fuck the ethos of football. We'll kick, gouge and foul our way to 'success'.
 
Doubt he would be considered he isn't an exBlade, the board wouldn't be sure that they could handle him.
 
Good at what he does , like Sir Dave , but was'nt the results , or league position , or f.a cup finals/europe that got him the sack , but fans who put their arse's on the seats who got sick of watching a team going for a 1-0 lead , being hard to break down { 10 behind the ball } being difficult to beat , you know what to expect going to stoke , blah blah blah, it's ok when your winning watching this TYPE ? of football , but when your not it's dire and with some of our fans I'd give him 12 games , so for me no ta luv.
 
dublin 10 blade said:
Good at what he does , like Sir Dave , but was'nt the results , or league position , or f.a cup finals/europe that got him the sack , but fans who put their arse's on the seats who got sick of watching a team going for a 1-0 lead , being hard to break down { 10 behind the ball } being difficult to beat , you know what to expect going to stoke , blah blah blah, it's ok when your winning watching this TYPE ? of football , but when your not it's dire and with some of our fans I'd give him 12 games , so for me no ta luv.
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It'll be interesting to see how Stoke do now. I recall that some Charlton supporters got fed up with Curbishley, but I bet they soon regretted losing him.
 



I don't doubt Pulis has done a good job in the last 7-8 years with Stoke but then we have to gloss over the previous x number of years where he trolled around the lower divisions moving and failing from club to club. Danny Wilson has had his time, Aidy Boothroyd, Paul Jewell, and the rest. I just don't like the way his teams play 'football' and I'd be amazed if he ever manages to a similar level of success in the future.

I also agree to an extent that if he, or anyone, got us promotion playing a similar style, the fans would put up with it. I just think though that we need to build from the academy upwards and to that extent, and given the lack of money to spend, the managerial appointment needs to be a younger up and coming manager with a bit of hunger to succeed and new ideas, Pulis wouldn't be that man.

If you were Everton now, would you go for (free) Pulis or Martinez ? Not the same as us, but the principle is the same.
 
oldblade said:
It'll be interesting to see how Stoke do now. I recall that some Charlton supporters got fed up with Curbishley, but I bet they soon regretted losing him.
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Your right there me old, and it took em years to turn it around, oh no this sounds like a club we know.
 
GRUMPY BLADE said:
Sit in a dark room then playing chess with Wilson whislt we fuck off up the leagues.

Got to nick Bladesadviser's quote

Only on a Blades forum would fans be saying we don't want a manager who has taken a very unfashionable club such as Stoke out of the division we are in, then got them promoted to the premier league and kept them there.
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WOW STOKE we are not fucking stoke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE SHEFFIELD UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND I DON'T LIKE HOOF FOOTBALL OK
 
blade too long said:
I still worry that some think we are going to get promoted playing one touch 18 passes back to front football .

Our sole aim is to get out of this division so we need winning football, how its achieved is of no interest in reality , we can do what wednesday did for me buy all 6 foot 4 inch basketball players and lump it in the box , get up and claim we play good football, the only priority is to finish top 2 how we do it doesnt matter a jot .
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Would it matter in the Championship, or should we be happy with hoof there as well? At what point in your vision for the club do we start playing football? A great many of us think it's already long overdue.
 
He doesn't fit in with the profile of the "footballing" academy graduates being integrated into the first team.
 
jezzablade said:
He doesn't fit in with the profile of the "footballing" academy graduates being integrated into the first team.
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No he doesn't. He'd be entirely inappropriate for the reprofiling we so obviously and desperately need.

Unfortunately, a small but noisy minority of Blades don't care about all that. You see, They ❤ Hoof.
 
I certainly don't want Pullis. Not that we'd be in with a shout anyway. From my point of view, his achievements at Stoke have been brilliant. I loved much of the Bassett era here, and much of the Warnock era too..In fact, there haven't really been better times since..(we had a flirtation with Wilson's first season).So perhaps I'm being a bit selfish, but I just can't see their brand of football succeeding longer term..It would most likely get us out of this division. Especially if we could unearth another Brian Deane and gems like Jags and Kyle (either version).. They'd succeed under any style with respect to them.. I haven't got the answer, but we do need to try and look longer term surely, and build on our academy as the only realistic way to establish some firmer foundations... Alternatively we find a rich benefactor (unlikely) or another Deano (even less likely)..If either of those 2 were options I'd gladly give hoofball another chance!
 
Jim Chimmerney said:
Just reading his profile, his 'notable' managerial signings include;

Ade Akinbiyi, Steve Simonsen, Lilian Nalis, Vincent Pericard and Lee Hendrie. Not to mention, more recently Tonge, Beattie, Higginbotham and Kitson. seems to be able to spot a player ;)
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Jim, is this "Beattie" you're referring too the James Beattie who we sold at a loss to Stoke and who proceeded to score the goals that saved them from relegation and lay the platform for 5+ years in the Premier League whilst we lost the playoff final because we had no forwards? The best signing any team made in that transfer window? That James Beattie?

Because if it is, you have a very short memory or you obviously thought that was "good business".

I would swap Stoke's last five years for ours in a heartbeat, hoof or no.
 
Pinchy said:
Would it matter in the Championship, or should we be happy with hoof there as well? At what point in your vision for the club do we start playing football? A great many of us think it's already long overdue.
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In the fullness of time , we get up get in front in games then play nice football , like every other club in the world do

Do I want us to play sexy football, yes very nice idea
Do I want us to win games , do I want commentators to say about us like they do about man utd , they arent playing as well as they can do but they are running away with the title , now thats the one
You want sexy football , tell me any club that plays 90/5 minutes of it in every game of every season, cos Ive been watching football 50 odd years and never ever seen it
Even when we had woodward and currie , at times we were utter shite
 
blade too long said:
In the fullness of time , we get up get in front in games then play nice football , like every other club in the world do

Do I want us to play sexy football, yes very nice idea
Do I want us to win games , do I want commentators to say about us like they do about man utd , they arent playing as well as they can do but they are running away with the title , now thats the one
You want sexy football , tell me any club that plays 90/5 minutes of it in every game of every season, cos Ive been watching football 50 odd years and never ever seen it
Even when we had woodward and currie , at times we were utter shite
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but it smelt better
 
Revolution said:
Jim, is this "Beattie" you're referring too the James Beattie who we sold at a loss to Stoke and who proceeded to score the goals that saved them from relegation and lay the platform for 5+ years in the Premier League whilst we lost the playoff final because we had no forwards? The best signing any team made in that transfer window? That James Beattie?

Because if it is, you have a very short memory or you obviously thought that was "good business".

I would swap Stoke's last five years for ours in a heartbeat, hoof or no.
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I have actually said he did a good job at Stoke.

OK, Beattie was no doubt instrumental in keeping them up and was a great impact signing. We'll gloss over what happened between the two of them the following season and you can't really say that this particular Pulis signing laid the foundations for another 4 years in the Prem.
 



blade too long said:
do I want commentators to say about us like they do about man utd , they arent playing as well as they can do but they are running away with the title , now thats the one
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Once again you want to compare apples and corrugated iron (pears were way too close this time I'm afraid).

Manchester United not playing as well as they can does not mean they were playing badly, just not as exceptionally as usual. Us, and indeed Stoke, not playing as well as we can, usually means 90 minutes of absolute tedium.

You're absolutely right, no team plays 40 odd games of belting football, but some teams manage more than about 45 minutes in a season!
 
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