Premier League start in jeopardy?

[Blade56]

One thing's for sure, we are all going to be killed.

I refuse

 

[Blade56]

I go to Asda with our lass to help her with shopping as she puts big bag on my mobility scooter

Does she put you int trolley bpb?

 

[Blade56]

You can bet history will be written to show Winston Churchill saved us from the evil Germans

He did

 

[DPH1979]

In the last 8 weeks flu has killed way more people than Covid in the UK, people need to get back to normal. We are set for a massive increase in deaths from cancer and other diseases due to lack of available appointments. Those who want to hide away fine but dont keep preaching to the 1s who want to live a life. If we all stay in there will be no pubs, restaurants etc left and an economy in even more tatters than it already is.

 

[Sheffsteel]

There is nothing in it for the Government to keep us locked down for no reason whatever the conspiracy theorists say. What is In it for any Government to deliberately crash the economy?

Excellent point Harry...I’ve asked that myself...why would the government deliberately damage the economy. How do they benefit?
This is where the conspiracy theorists come out with wild and imaginative ideas. I tend to ignore these.

However I have noticed that the opposition parties ALWAYS find an angle to criticise everything the government do....doesn’t matter what it is.
Also there’s currently a bizarre national idealism where the minority have become more important than the majority.
Added to the fact that social media seems to be dangerously developing more and more power.

So my theory is that opposition parties benefit from a relative economic crash and recession because they are more likely to win the next election.
Also the current government have become more sensitive to negative media reports and negative public opinion (on social media).
Hence why they do so many U turns based on feedback. Even for the government it’s becoming “trial by Facebook/ Twitter”.

Doesnt help that it’s become so fashionable to give polarised viewpoints and exaggerate everything...so society has become reactionary.

An example is schools...it’s an emotional subject because it involves children.
All the data shows there‘s 0.000000001% risk to children.....apparently 2 children (both had health problems) have died of covid in the UK.
Logic says “open the schools with no masks or social distancing“ but opposition MP’s want to score points by saying “we can never open schools until there’s zero risk”. Just heard a Labour politian on the Radio saying “ we should be preparing for no exams to taken next Summer”
”the poor students have suffered so much and we should be looking at other ways of giving them fair results that don’t include an exam”

In the past where there was a choice.....the logic was “the minority would be made to suffer for the majority”
But there’s now a weird lefty fashion where given the choice ”the majority are made to suffer to help the minority”.
It‘s a nice idealistic viewpoint but its irrational.

 

[Blade56]

Grealish ffs, was fined for flouting lockdown and turned up 1st game back wi a new Barnet. That guys a massive ****

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Doesn’t anyone think it’s bizarre how hospitalisations and deaths have suddenly become so unimportant.
Last 6 days the UK daily death rate has been 11, 3, 5, 3,12 and 16 out of 65,000,000 people.
I have family who work in hospitals who tell me that there‘s now hardly anyone in the Nightingales wards.

But instead of reporting the good news that the virus has almost gone.
The government are now foccusing on “positive test” results and 2nd waves or 3rd waves are coming.
and they are trying their best to push the figures up as much as possible....they want everyone to take the test....to prevent Armageddon.

If hardly anyone is ill or dying from a virus then why the panic?
We’ve never had this panic with flu...loads of people take the flu vaccine every year but loads of elderly people still die of flu.
Why has there been no fear of flu in previous years? It sometimes feels like the lunatics are running the asylum.

It feels like the government know there’s little threat but are trying to convince the public that they are saving us from this evil threat.
So when it comes to voting time the story will be the Torries lock down policy prevented millions of UK citizens from dying.
You can bet history will be written to show Winston Churchill saved us from the evil Germans and Boris saved us from evil virus.
He even uses war time analogies like “brave people battling on the front line“ and “stay vigilant to fight this evil” etc. It’s craziness.

Or maybe they are trying to keep us on our guard so we don't get complacent,
other countries are seeing rises in cases.
They got slaughtered for acting to slowly when the pandemic started, other countries handled it apparently so much better. Now some of these countries are showing increases and our Government are being cautious they still get it.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Or maybe they are trying to keep us on our guard so we don't get complacent,
other countries are seeing rises in cases.
They got slaughtered for acting to slowly when the pandemic started, other countries handled it apparently so much better. Now some of these countries are showing increases and our Government are being cautious they still get it.

Agree that’s it’s usually better to be safe than sorry, hence being extra cautious.
However even in countries like Spain and Italy the number of hospitalisations and deaths is still negligle.
But for some reason hospitalisations and deaths no longer seem important....the media won’t report that deaths have reduced to lower than flu levels.

Instead the onus is now on “positive tests” and how that is increasing,
However as countries test more and more people then it’s obvious the number of positive cases will increase.
What these countries should be reporting is the number of tests done....so people can gain perspective of how negligle this virus is, regards the bigger picture.

In Spain they aren’t just tested live covid cases but also including people that have antibodies (so had covid) in their numbers.
So its obvious that the more tests Spain do then the figure must increase...that is a fact. So why the sensationalist surprise and fear?

Also agree about the government being slaughtered for delaying the lockdown but guess what?
The government would have been slaughtered for goimg into the lock down too early too.
In recent times theres been a trend where government make a decision and get slaughtered.
So they do a U turn and then get slaughtered again for changing their minds and often their change in policy has solved 1 problem but created new problems.

 

[Oldun]

Doesn’t anyone think it’s bizarre how hospitalisations and deaths have suddenly become so unimportant.
Last 6 days the UK daily death rate has been 11, 3, 5, 3,12 and 16 out of 65,000,000 people.
I have family who work in hospitals who tell me that there‘s now hardly anyone in the Nightingales wards.

But instead of reporting the good news that the virus has almost gone.
The government are now foccusing on “positive test” results and 2nd waves or 3rd waves are coming.
and they are trying their best to push the figures up as much as possible....they want everyone to take the test....to prevent Armageddon.

If hardly anyone is ill or dying from a virus then why the panic?
We’ve never had this panic with flu...loads of people take the flu vaccine every year but loads of elderly people still die of flu.
Why has there been no fear of flu in previous years? It sometimes feels like the lunatics are running the asylum.

It feels like the government know there’s little threat but are trying to convince the public that they are saving us from this evil threat.
So when it comes to voting time the story will be the Torries lock down policy prevented millions of UK citizens from dying.
You can bet history will be written to show Winston Churchill saved us from the evil Germans and Boris saved us from evil virus.
He even uses war time analogies like “brave people battling on the front line“ and “stay vigilant to fight this evil” etc. It’s craziness.

Covid has killed over four times as many people in England as die annually from flu. And that is with everyone hiding at home. Imagine the numbers who would have died without the World going into lockdown?

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Big Pharma has made billions,Trumps election year,? Who knows. The only thing for sure is we have been lied to and controlled for decades.

That's human nature and whatever party is in power, or whatever religion holds sway, it will never change.

Revolutions come and go, people stay the same.

As a species, we are greedy, lying, thieving, selfish parasites on this planet.

We kill for fun and we rape children.

We beat up old people and we traffic young people and migrants.

We enslave those we believe are sub-human low-lifes

We'll get our come-uppance, one day.

 

[essyoueffsee]

These pictures make me feel physically sick, especially Grealish on a private jet but... The changes in travel restrictions aren't helping either. You can't blame them for that.

 

[bypassblade]

Does she put you int trolley bpb?

She'd never pick me up Blade56

 

[bypassblade]

Plover and Sportsman both seen outbreaks.

The Blue Bell is unfortunately long gone, now a tanning salon/cornershop. I believe the Bradshaws are still with us but retired.

Blimey the Sportsman is still going, I know Plover had CV I used to love the Bell in years gone by, Plover was my local back in day.

 

[Tezza1889]

Anybody else completely unaffected by this whole thing?

Anybody else still know nobody who's had this virus?

Anybody else think the whole situation Is arse over tit regarding masks?

Only the elderly or medically vulnerable should have been locked down, mass sports gatherings cancelled was a good move at the time because the threat wasn't known in its entirity, but it turned out the majority of working age people seem to have not been at any risk.

Where are the bulging hospitals and where are the droves of ambulances whizzing on our streets carting our neighbours off..

And why are the checkout girls on the tills the same ones that have been there since it started, if the risk was so high they'd all be long dead by now..

We've scuppered the country for fuck all, one dumb move after another, overkill for a beefed up flu..

And yes i think they're up to something, we havent had a life altering event in this generation (like a war) so look forward to tax reforms and other measures to control you, this will boil down to the money in your pocket, and your whereabouts at all times..

You're all entitled to your opinions of course.

I think theyre up to something, and yes they're all in it together..

Time will tell on this one.

 

[Badger Blade]

In the last 8 weeks flu has killed way more people than Covid in the UK, people need to get back to normal. We are set for a massive increase in deaths from cancer and other diseases due to lack of available appointments. Those who want to hide away fine but dont keep preaching to the 1s who want to live a life. If we all stay in there will be no pubs, restaurants etc left and an economy in even more tatters than it already is.

Exactly right, Covid isn't killing people directly any more but there are plenty of deaths by association due to the incompetence and frenzy around it.

Our lass's godmother died a couple of days ago from cancer because her treatment had been stopped. It was terminal and the treatment would have only delayed the inevitable but she was in and out of hospital and spent most of her final weeks in pain and on her own because her husband wasn't allowed to visit her. Her funeral is on a zoom call in a couple of weeks time, yet there's far more chance of getting and dying from cancer than Covid.

There are more suicides in a week than deaths from Covid and I'd bet that if not for keeping people locked in their own four walls so long for, some of those might not have happened either.

 

[ATL Recs]

Anybody else completely unaffected by this whole thing?

Anybody else still know nobody who's had this virus?

Anybody else think the whole situation Is arse over tit regarding masks?

Only the elderly or medically vulnerable should have been locked down, mass sports gatherings cancelled was a good move at the time because the threat wasn't known in its entirity, but it turned out the majority of working age people seem to have not been at any risk.

Where are the bulging hospitals and where are the droves of ambulances whizzing on our streets carting our neighbours off..

And why are the checkout girls on the tills the same ones that have been there since it started, if the risk was so high they'd all be long dead by now..

We've scuppered the country for fuck all, one dumb move after another, overkill for a beefed up flu..

And yes i think they're up to something, we havent had a life altering event in this generation (like a war) so look forward to tax reforms and other measures to control you, this will boil down to the money in your pocket, and your whereabouts at all times..

You're all entitled to your opinions of course.

I think theyre up to something, and yes they're all in it together..

Time will tell on this one.

Nope lost two mates with Covid ( aged 43 and 61) three more who come to my gym recovered and my other half who is an infection control nurse came home every day for nearly three months doing 14 hour shifts , with her soul drained, from dealing with death from covid from as young as 25 and with no existing health conditions.

The only way to beat this is first find a way to manage it then find a solution -now we are managing the virus ( yes through trial and error, like every other country, but thats why it is a pandemic no one has the answer at the beginning ) by keeping close human contact down which buys us time to get the solutions we need.

If we had not had the Lock Down over 250,000 could have died here within the three months to June end. If that would have happened then the Country infrastucture would have collapsed. We must maintain our level of self responsibility as by doing so we are being responsible for others (masks we wear aren't about protecting ourselves they are about protecting others. Individually in a very minimal way but collectively wearing them , making a big difference

Infection rates are rising ( hence more young people being identified with the virus) due to all round increased testing but mortality rates remain fairly flatlined.This is most likely due to how we are managing the virus now, care homes more resourced in PPE, those with on going complex health conditions and the wider community use of PPE, for example, are factors to consider in flatlining the rate of mortality.

If we stopped now then quite bluntly we could be well and truly fucked this Winter.

 

[DifferentClass]

Blimey the Sportsman is still going, I know Plover had CV I used to love the Bell in years gone by, Plover was my local back in day.

My mum worked at Bell. Met my dad through the Bradshaws' son who you may have heard of (think he used to play for pigs ). So there's my Bladey Blade connection.

 

[The Crab]

I went in the local shop the other day, and this stupid woman that lives across the road from me had a mask, in her hand. Put it on your fucking face!

Honestly, I'm sick of them.

The only reason I need to go somewhere where thickos will be is to pay the papers for my parents, and get them gas and electric from the paypoint. I've got eon coming in a couple of weeks to fit smart meters so that's one less reason to encounter the brainless, just the papers now.

Same as you, no chance I'm in a pub or restaurant for a while yet.

Apart from McDonalds last night, the few restaurants I've been in are perfectly fine to be honest. Although one was Miller and Carter and their prices should filter out most of the scum anyway to be honest.

 

[bypassblade]

Apart from McDonalds last night, the few restaurants I've been in are perfectly fine to be honest. Although one was Miller and Carter and their prices should filter out most of the scum anyway to be honest.

I looked at their prices earlier in year Crab, 13 quid for a burger but steaks sound nice might give it a go when things die down.

 

[The Crab]

I looked at their prices earlier in year Crab, 13 quid for a burger but steaks sound nice might give it a go when things die down.

You won't be sorry mate, yes its a bit pricey but it's very good. I had one of cheaper steaks (still £17) and it was very good. My date had the Seabass, she's eaten at plenty of nice places and said it was very good, desserts good to. Main, desserts and drink were £61 plus tip.

The result of the date meant it would have been cheaper to have gone for a maccy ds and a blow job but there you go.

 

[bromtom]

Apart from McDonalds last night, the few restaurants I've been in are perfectly fine to be honest. Although one was Miller and Carter and their prices should filter out most of the scum anyway to be honest.

I do think there's a huge socio-economic angle on mask wearing and general behaviour with Covid19 so it's probably true that nicer restaurants will be safer than say, the Gypsy Queen.

I live on a council estate, and my family are very much ground floor working class but I think there's a basement floor now, it's full of cretins that spent most of their education drinking Frosty Jack's in a bus shelter and smoking bifters in an underpass. No regard for others.

I go to the shops on my estate once or twice a week, and I can count on my fingers the amount of people I've seen wearing masks since it became mandatory.

 

[The Crab]

I do think there's a huge socio-economic angle on mask wearing and general behaviour with Covid19 so it's probably true that nicer restaurants will be safer than say, the Gypsy Queen.

I live on a council estate, and my family are very much ground floor working class but I think there's a basement floor now, it's full of cretins that spent most of their education drinking Frosty Jack's in a bus shelter and smoking bifters in an underpass. No regard for others.

I go to the shops on my estate once or twice a week, and I can count on my fingers the amount of people I've seen wearing masks since it became mandatory.

Born and brought up on council estates (although back in the day Oughtibridge was one of the "better" ones), lived on Norfolk Park and now live at Wincobank which isn't exactly Dore, so I'm by no means a snob. But I do like nice things when I can have them, and even when I'm skint I'd like to think try to maintain a certain standard of behaviour. Am I perfect? Far from it! But some of the twats you see these days, fucks sake, really?

 

[jt64]

Covid has killed over four times as many people in England as die annually from flu. And that is with everyone hiding at home. Imagine the numbers who would have died without the World going into lockdown?

Flu deaths on average of late = 17k/year (source: 2 seconds of googling)
Covid deaths so far = not 68k. Unless you want to count deaths from government coronaparanoia policies, then fair enough

 

[Roygbiv]

It's wrong to say flu has killed more in the last 8 weeks . Flu & pneumonia are combined by the ONS for reasons they explain on their website. If you read this you will find flu isn't around at all right now. Pneumonia has killed more people than Covid lately but not flu

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/907349/National_Influenza_report_06_August_2020_week_32.pdf

"In week 31 2020, out of the 211 respiratory specimens reported
through the Respiratory DataMart System, no sample tested
positive for influenza."

 

[bypassblade]

It's all going off , yesterday they said their were 1500 jobs in jeopardy

 

[bromtom]

Born and brought up on council estates (although back in the day Oughtibridge was one of the "better" ones), lived on Norfolk Park and now live at Wincobank which isn't exactly Dore, so I'm by no means a snob. But I do like nice things when I can have them, and even when I'm skint I'd like to think try to maintain a certain standard of behaviour. Am I perfect? Far from it! But some of the twats you see these days, fucks sake, really?

Yeah I'm the same, lived in Intake and moved to Westfield which is certainly not Kensington to Knightsbridge, but just because your environment isn't the greatest doesn't mean you have to sink to it's level.

It's self respect I think.

 

[BladeByChoice]

Anybody else completely unaffected by this whole thing?

Anybody else still know nobody who's had this virus?

Anybody else think the whole situation Is arse over tit regarding masks?

Only the elderly or medically vulnerable should have been locked down, mass sports gatherings cancelled was a good move at the time because the threat wasn't known in its entirity, but it turned out the majority of working age people seem to have not been at any risk.

Where are the bulging hospitals and where are the droves of ambulances whizzing on our streets carting our neighbours off..

And why are the checkout girls on the tills the same ones that have been there since it started, if the risk was so high they'd all be long dead by now..

We've scuppered the country for fuck all, one dumb move after another, overkill for a beefed up flu..

And yes i think they're up to something, we havent had a life altering event in this generation (like a war) so look forward to tax reforms and other measures to control you, this will boil down to the money in your pocket, and your whereabouts at all times..

You're all entitled to your opinions of course.

I think theyre up to something, and yes they're all in it together..

Time will tell on this one.

I do agree with some of what you say.

Am I unaffected by the whole thing; health wise yes, financially no.

Do I know anyone personally who has had the virus; No.

The situation on wearing masks; clarity of advice from the government is a joke, maybe intentionally so, if we aren’t clear on the rules we can’t argue.

Lock down; the problem with science is it can only prove that something exists, it can’t prove that something doesn’t exist. So its easy to record infections and deaths, but its not easy to predict how many people are not infected, who would have been infected if they had not taken precautions.

The government conspiracy; I’m not having that. I understand how someone could come to this conclusion but I just can’t see it myself.

I just hope that in time, you are proved wrong and not right.

 

[diode_blade]

One thing's for sure, we are all going to be killed.

Yup, the only Prem league team left will be the rusties.
We are all doomed. The rusties will backdate every PL title win to show how many times they have won it more than us, when the pl restarts properly, you heard it here first.

 

[blade67]

Nope lost two mates with Covid ( aged 43 and 61) three more who come to my gym recovered and my other half who is an infection control nurse came home every day for nearly three months doing 14 hour shifts , with her soul drained, from dealing with death from covid from as young as 25 and with no existing health conditions.

The only way to beat this is first find a way to manage it then find a solution -now we are managing the virus ( yes through trial and error, like every other country, but thats why it is a pandemic no one has the answer at the beginning ) by keeping close human contact down which buys us time to get the solutions we need.

If we had not had the Lock Down over 250,000 could have died here within the three months to June end. If that would have happened then the Country infrastucture would have collapsed. We must maintain our level of self responsibility as by doing so we are being responsible for others (masks we wear aren't about protecting ourselves they are about protecting others. Individually in a very minimal way but collectively wearing them , making a big difference

Infection rates are rising ( hence more young people being identified with the virus) due to all round increased testing but mortality rates remain fairly flatlined. This is most likely due to how we are managing the virus now, care homes more resourced in PPE, those with on going complex health conditions and the wider community use of PPE, for example, are factors to consider in flatlining the rate of mortality.

If we stopped now then quite bluntly we could be well and truly fucked this Winter.

There are two other factors in the low death rate ATM

1 Hospitals have worked out some of the major risks - ventilators aren't actually that good for you, CPAP is much better and anyone who's ill needs to be on anti clotting meds and the steroid that works really well.

2 Older people are keeping themselves safer, whereas at the start, whether by accident or on purpose the care home sector got chucked under a bus.

I'm surprised they haven't found anymore effective treatments by now, they were trialling about 30 drugs where results were due in July, but I guess they've not found any to be effective or we'd know by now.

It seems that with a mixture of face masks, social distancing and good handwashing / hand sanitising we should mostly be able to keep ourselves safe. Stadiums should be open at half capacity initially and then monitored for a month to see the effect.

That would enable all professional football to get going again

 

[Hilly]

"In the past where there was a choice.....the logic was “the minority would be made to suffer for the majority”
Unlike now where 8% of the UK population control approx 40% of its assetts, all the while some working people are using foodbanks and seeing their childrens esimated grades marked down and privaley educated kids marked up.... yes, thank god this country is run for the majority. Left wing twaddle, God Save The Queen!