Player Power: Maguire v Stones

[super_pig]

after watching the Everton defence get the run around the other day .. is Stones really that good??

 

[bulmer]

Nobody on this thread has taken into account the fact Harry rubbed clough up the wrong way by making himself unavailable for selection and so clough (the club) resurrected the hull deal as alluded to by flat Bob what hasn't been said is that Harry left with the words you won't play for this club again whilst I am here ringing in his ears (he wasn't the only player to have that said to him) one current 1st teamer also left with the same endorsement.whatever cloughs positive attributes are compromise doesnt appear to be one of them

 

[Rodders]

after watching the Everton defence get the run around the other day .. is Stones really that good??

£40m isn't overpriced for him, according to this thread.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

After not selling their free scoring centre forwards until they got out of league one.

If you are meaning JB I thought we'd already agreed that was a bad move, but wasn't this regime and wasn't league one.
Other than that I can't remember us selling a free scoring centre forward while in league one. The only one we've had was a twat who cost us promotion with his mysoginistic

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

£40m isn't overpriced for him, according to this thread.

It is, it's a steal.
If they sign him this season then they're likely to get 13 years service out of him at the top level which is £3 million a year. That's £3m for the likely England centre half and possibly captain when quotas are going to be in place for English talent.
Further context is that's £3 million out of the £100 million all Premiership teams will get just from TV rights, not including prize money and sponsorship. It's a bargain, just as Sterling will be for Man City.
Plus if they don't work out you take a hit and move them on, but if you do it right you'll win more than you lose.

 

[Revolution]

If you are meaning JB I thought we'd already agreed that was a bad move, but wasn't this regime and wasn't league one.
Other than that I can't remember us selling a free scoring centre forward while in league one. The only one we've had was a twat who cost us promotion with his mysoginistic

I mean that they didn't selling their best players generally, like we have for the last 3 close seasons.

Trundle and Lambert went nowhere until the job was done, just like Rhodes and Beckford before them. Nick Blackman (yes, not as free scoring but certainly better than what we replaced him with) was out of the door in 5 months for a million quid. We were in the promotion places when he went. 3 months of Forte and Ironside later and we're losing at Yeovil.

There are many factors that have ensured we have stayed in league one for 5 seasons. Ched Evans, terrible choices of managers and injuries at bad times have all played a part. But selling our best players is another key factor. Other clubs have not done this and reaped the rewards. I wish they could have been braver this year.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I mean that they didn't selling their best players generally, like we have for the last 3 close seasons.

Trundle and Lambert went nowhere until the job was done, just like Rhodes and Beckford before them. Nick Blackman (yes, not as free scoring but certainly better than what we replaced him with) was out of the door in 5 months for a million quid. We were in the promotion places when he went. 3 months of Forte and Ironside later and we're losing at Yeovil.

There are many factors that have ensured we have stayed in league one for 5 seasons. Ched Evans, terrible choices of managers and injuries at bad times have all played a part. But selling our best players is another key factor. Other clubs have not done this and reaped the rewards. I wish they could have been braver this year.

Do you think selling Murphy was a mistake?

 

[Revolution]

Do you think selling Murphy was a mistake?

Yes. He was under contract and we didn't need to sell him (according to Phipps). Given these facts, I'd rather have kept him given what he brings to the table in terms of goals and assists.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Yes. He was under contract and we didn't need to sell him (according to Phipps). Given these facts, I'd rather have kept him given what he brings to the table in terms of goals and assists.

He was indeed, but he did also submit a transfer request saying he wanted out of the club and the money was substantial.

 

[Revolution]

He was indeed, but he did also submit a transfer request saying he wanted out of the club and the money was substantial.

Money - We didn't need to sell, according to the club

Transfer request - so?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Money - We didn't need to sell, according to the club

Transfer request - so?

We didn't need to sell, but the player wanted out, we had options to cover him within the squad, the player had been out of form for a while and was inconsistent and the offer was over most sensible folks market value of the player.
I think it was a sensible one to accept and use the money to improve the squad.
Let's see if they do just that in the next few days.