Phillips Tackle

[Brian Deane]

Here's an image of Lee Harvey Oswald when he was 2 years old.

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As you can clearly see, he's nowhere near the sixth-floor window of the Texas School Book Depository so he can't have shot JFK.

His hands aren't large enough to hold a rifle, let alone fire one.
How the fuck did they get a conviction

 

[MayorOJC]

So you think in the milliseconds between those two clips, he's decided he's going to push down into his leg?

Do you expect him to keep his leg in the air? How long for? When is he allowed to bring it back down again?

It's a red, I just disagree with your assessment.

Well I'm glad you're no longer saying it's a foul on Phillips at least. Baby steps.

 

[Tarqs]

Well I'm glad you're no longer saying it's a foul on Phillips at least. Baby steps.

When did I say it was ?

 

[Grey Blade]

The only person who knows for certain whether it was intentional or not is Phillips.
In my opinion, if it was just an innocent follow through, it would have been the upper part of the foot which made contact and not the sole - ie the studs.
However, slow motion replays always make these incidents look worse and Ingelsson's recovery was something of a miracle.
It would be much simpler to assess if players were actually honest in their reaction

 

[Seth Rollins]

Its a red card all day long. If that was one of their lot on Peck we'd be screaming for a red card.

 

[Crabstick]

It’s 100% a red.

There’s more to it than a 50/50 follow through. From other angles you can clearly see Phillips drag his studs down their knee.

Momentum from a follow through would affect how his foot is going up. How it comes back down is an entirely different story.

He knew what he was doing, held his hands up immediately.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

In the modern game, it’s a clear as day red card. Doesn’t mean it’s a wank decision though.

I hope we go to block every single clearance from now until the end of time on the off chance that one of our lads are late to it, and get the clearer sent off.

 

[programmechap]

It’s 100% a red.

There’s more to it than a 50/50 follow through. From other angles you can clearly see Phillips drag his studs down their knee.

Momentum from a follow through would affect how his foot is going up. How it comes back down is an entirely different story.

He knew what he was doing, held his hands up immediately.

I agree. He clearly wanted to let him "know he was there" and hoped the ref wouldn't spot it. He'd be conscious theres no VAR.

 

[Champagneblade]

Another example would be Burrows’ goal yesterday. In order to get the power behind the shot, he follows through and his leg ends up being above knee height. Now imagine a defender comes in late and gets caught, should Burrows be sent off and the goal not stand?

The sending off was ridiculous, Phillips is clearing the ball, he’s booting it up field. How can he control the follow through whilst generating the power needed?

Wasn’t there one away at Millwall where our player had a shot and theirs collided with him after the ball had gone. Result; no penalty. But why? If Phillips is punished after the ball has gone and he can’t stop his follow through then why did we not get a penalty?

 

[YES Blade]

Wasn’t there one away at Millwall where our player had a shot and theirs collided with him after the ball had gone. Result; no penalty. But why? If Phillips is punished after the ball has gone and he can’t stop his follow through then why did we not get a penalty?

That’s the ridiculous nature of refereeing in football, they just seem to have a different set of rules for inside and outside the box.

 

[ancientblade]

100% red card phillips knew what he was doing and cost us the chance to put 5 or 6 past em

 

[darleyblade]

That’s the ridiculous nature of refereeing in football, they just seem to have a different set of rules for inside and outside the box.

In yesterday's Forest v Liverpool match there was an attempted tackle on MacAllister by Bakwa. The Forest player didn't even get the ball but his foot hit MacAllister just below the knee and brought him down. Not even a foul was given. The commentator said something like: "It looked a bit high, but VAR have decided no further action should be taken."

 

[BlairBlade]

Here's an image of Lee Harvey Oswald when he was 2 years old.

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As you can clearly see, he's nowhere near the sixth-floor window of the Texas School Book Depository so he can't have shot JFK.

So true.
A man after my own heart.
As I state under my picture, or whatever it is, LHO is innocent.
INNOCENT I yell ya!

 

[Tarqs]

Wasn’t there one away at Millwall where our player had a shot and theirs collided with him after the ball had gone. Result; no penalty. But why? If Phillips is punished after the ball has gone and he can’t stop his follow through then why did we not get a penalty?

Yeah that was on McCallum. It likely fractured his foot aswell, yet no foul.

 

[BlairBlade]

His hands aren't large enough to hold a rifle, let alone fire one.
How the fuck did they get a conviction

They didn’t get a conviction.
They didn’t even try.
They left it to the press and some very dubious writers, reporters and outfits such as: the CIA, the FBI; the Mafia; the Piggies Supporters Club; and the Get Chansiri Out campaign - to name the main culprits.
Maybe because there was no powder residue on him they knew he was innocent.

 

[ThirdGenBlade]

They didn’t get a conviction.
They didn’t even try.
They left it to the press and some very dubious writers, reporters and outfits such as: the CIA, the FBI; the Mafia; the Piggies Supporters Club; and the Get Chansiri Out campaign - to name the main culprits.
Maybe because there was no powder residue on him they knew he was innocent.

I think the main reason that they didn’t get a conviction was that Jack Ruby shot him dead 2 days after the assassination!

 

[ForgeBlade]

Regardless of the "intent" (if there was any) Ingelsson is a dirty diving rat. Rolled around like he'd been shot but was fine to sprint back onto the pitch and finish the game 30 seconds later. Crap like this needs punishing with red cards after the game, or players will keep doing it.

 

[Yewsman]

Fef didn't seem to be close to tackle. Was it the tackle itself or the fact that Ingleson rolled around in agony as if he had badly broken his leg that influenced the decision to give a red card? I don't think I have ever seen such a reaction that looked like it was a really serious injury recover so completely and quickly. He walked gingerly to the touchline but came back on almost immediately and ran onto the pitch without any hint of an injury. There was never any sign of the Wendy bench getting anyone ready as possible replacement. Was it a an act?

 

[Bladesman]

In the modern game, it’s a clear as day red card. Doesn’t mean it’s a wank decision though.

I hope we go to block every single clearance from now until the end of time on the off chance that one of our lads are late to it, and get the clearer sent off.

They wouldn't get sent off anyway. If McCallum can get cleaned out like he did at Charlton then don't hold your breath and expect us to get a decision like this one.

Also, with our injury record in recent years it's probably something we want our players to avoid.

 

[Grey Blade]

Was it a an act?

Yes. You don't roll around like that if you're seriously injured

 

[finlaytheblade]

It’s 100% a red.

There’s more to it than a 50/50 follow through. From other angles you can clearly see Phillips drag his studs down their knee.

Momentum from a follow through would affect how his foot is going up. How it comes back down is an entirely different story.

He knew what he was doing, held his hands up immediately.

Held his hands up cus he realised he had caught him ! Big difference to stamping or raking studs down the shin.No sign of laceration which would have happened if he put real force on the impact.Inggerson or whatever he's called was in our faces from the off which is ok not complaining over that.

 

[LurkerBlade]

I know slowing it down always makes it look worse but it did "seem" that the follow through was accidental and a harsh red but THEN there was an extra little push from KP.

 

[I should coco]

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If you look closely at Santos's tackle, he started off no where near their man so a red was unbelievably harsh in my eyes.

Never a red!

He got the ball.

 

[BlairBlade]

I think the main reason that they didn’t get a conviction was that Jack Ruby shot him dead 2 days after the assassination!

Not true.
They would never have been able to convict him as there was no evidence against him.
He didn’t shoot Kennedy.
Easy way out, get a minor mafia figure to kill him and shut him up. Then shut Ruby up.
Repeatedly tell everyone that a lone nut killed JFK and back it up with a dishonest commission.
Dallas was the third attempt to kill Kennedy. The previous two were Chicago and Tampa. On both occasions they had another lone-nut set up to take the blame should they succeed.
As LHO clearly stated when in custody, he was a patsy.

 

[TopBoy]

I was taught that if you go in tackles half-heartedly, you'll get injured. Phillips went in fully committed, and Ingelsson arrived very slightly late. You can't kick a ball without following through. The game gets worse each season.

 

[Dnblade]

I think Burrows miscontrolls which led to the challenge...Phillips had to clean up a 50/50,but i think it was probably the right call in todays game with him following through,but there was no real intention. Shame because Burrows had a good game otherwise.. if he controls the ball the sending off never happens.

 

[LBA_Blade]

That’s the ridiculous nature of refereeing in football, they just seem to have a different set of rules for inside and outside the box.

Totally agreed, similar to the pushing and pulling of shirts you get at corners, if that happens on half way it’s a free kick in the box it’s usually play on. 2 ways that you deal with that either change the penalty area so that it is just the 6 x 20 yard box rather than 18 x 44 yards, any fouls within the new penalty area are penalties taken from the existing penalty spot, that way you are punishing the ones that really matter.

The other option is to change the method of penalty to indirect free kicks from where the offence took place.