CONFIRMED Phil Jones joins the Blades coaching staff

[Nick Jansky]

Does this particular person have the ironic initials AA ?
Serious question BTW

Yes, just taken up his new position in the last couple of weeks. Exciting times.

 

[Nick Jansky]

3 or 4 teams can realistically win the Premier League most years. At Championship level maybe upto 16 teams have a chance every year to gain promotion. Whilst the top level standard is incredibly higher, I wouldn't say it’s more competitive.

Certainly harder to win than the championship.

 

[Valley Blade]

Certainly harder to win than the championship.

For those 3 or 4 clubs who can win it though, that is there only competition. You can make a case in Championship that 8 plus teams have a reasonable chance of being Champions. Of course the Premier League is harder to win, as its standard is so much higher. Was just trying to highlight how difficult it is to succeed at our level. There are far more clubs evenly matched.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

I base it on what I, and others, have experienced.

But I don’t think he would be remotely bothered about a complete nobody like you attempting to be dismissive of him

You are a silly little sausage!

Nothing then. Just more anti Wilder drivel.

I'm not dismissing him I'm dismissing you.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Nothing then. Just more anti Wilder drivel.

I'm not dismissing him I'm dismissing you.

Oh, I’m sure I’ll survive!

 

[Tom Bott]

If I don't drink.
Don't eat kebabs.
Go to bed at 9pm every evening.
Spend 10/12 hours per day, 7 days a week exercising and training.

I could be champion of the world.

How many people have that mindset.

If we base our contracts on that level of committedness we won't be signing any new players.
The only Blades player of recent years I can think of that comes close to that attitude is Illiman Ndiaye.

Half of the England's football and cricket squads don't.

 

[Nick Jansky]

The only Blades player of recent years I can think of that comes close to that attitude is Illiman Ndiaye.

We’ve had quite a few, actually. Obvious ones were JOC and Baldock, and you can certainly put Ahmedhodzic and Seriki on that list too. The point is, fine margins count, and players who make the most of themselves physically obviously provide an edge, as well as generally having longer careers at a good level. Only players with an exceptional talent can get away with it (and, even then, you have the likes of Grealish) and we don’t have any players like that. It’s a deeply ingrained English mentality and culture, which is fine as long as you’re happy to not strive to be the best in a game that has evolved into one for elite athletes.

 

[billyblademan]

We’ve had quite a few, actually. Obvious ones were JOC and Baldock, and you can certainly put Ahmedhodzic and Seriki on that list too. The point is, fine margins count, and players who make the most of themselves physically obviously provide an edge, as well as generally having longer careers at a good level. Only players with an exceptional talent can get away with it (and, even then, you have the likes of Grealish) and we don’t have any players like that. It’s a deeply ingrained English mentality and culture, which is fine as long as you’re happy to not strive to be the best in a game that has evolved into one for elite athletes.

To counter that, I would find that when playing chess in the Sheffield leagues, my play would get better after I'd had a couple of pints. But hey, I didn't go to medical school for 5 years so what do I know.

Mr A.L.Coholic.

 

[Lens instep catch]

We’ve had quite a few, actually. Obvious ones were JOC and Baldock, and you can certainly put Ahmedhodzic and Seriki on that list too. The point is, fine margins count, and players who make the most of themselves physically obviously provide an edge, as well as generally having longer careers at a good level. Only players with an exceptional talent can get away with it (and, even then, you have the likes of Grealish) and we don’t have any players like that. It’s a deeply ingrained English mentality and culture, which is fine as long as you’re happy to not strive to be the best in a game that has evolved into one for elite athletes.

I can see the point you are making Nick but I would have thought it would be a personal decision maybe they are happy in their life outside football and also playing at a high standard.
Its a bit like being advised don't eat your favourite foods they are bad for you and you might live 5 -10 years longer they think why should I, I would rather enjoy my life than go through life being miserable

 

[Lens instep catch]

I can see the point you are making Nick but I would have thought it would be a personal decision maybe they are happy in their life outside football and also playing at a high standard.
Its a bit like being advised don't eat your favourite foods they are bad for you and you might live 5 -10 years longer they think why should I, I would rather enjoy my life than go through life being miserable

George Best didn't do too badly !!

 

[Nick Jansky]

George Best didn't do too badly !!

He was washed up at a very young age.

 

[Lens instep catch]

He was washed up at a very young age.

Maybe so but he crammed more into his life than most people would in two life times all his own decision

 

[bertieblade]

Mate of mine passed away with alcohol poisoning in his mid forties. We all said that he had lived two lives in his one and although it was sad to see him go he had lived a very full life, but he did not rely on fitness to earn his money.
Professional sportsmen have to be at the peak of their fitness to enable them to achieve, as most other opponents are. Having a beer after a game is not a problem, drinking to the excess that some do puts them at a disadvantage. Whilst camaraderie is important it can be achieved by other ways than getting drunk as it effects fitness and subsequently your ability to perform.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I can see the point you are making Nick but I would have thought it would be a personal decision maybe they are happy in their life outside football and also playing at a high standard.
Its a bit like being advised don't eat your favourite foods they are bad for you and you might live 5 -10 years longer they think why should I, I would rather enjoy my life than go through life being miserable

It’s absolutely a personal decision. But we don’t really want players who have that mindset.

 

[Lens instep catch]

It’s absolutely a personal decision. But we don’t really want players who have that mindset.

OK so you would prefer a team of Kevin Keegans with no room for a any Paul Gasgoines

 

[DifferentClass]

Another thread, another Wilder debate.

In addition to a politics forum, can I also suggest to Foxy Linz a Wilder in/out forum?

 

[Lens instep catch]

Another thread, another Wilder debate.

In addition to a politics forum, can I also suggest to Foxy Linz a Wilder in/out forum?

Not sure if this is in response to the debate/discussion that Nick and I are having I agree that it is off thread which I apologise for but it is no way anything to do regarding Chris Wilder
I respect Nick's views which he is perfectly entitled to but I believe that it could never be achieved no matter who was in charge of recruitment because we are dealing with human beings who in my opinion are all unique.In any walk of life be it football, golf , cricket , bricklaying, joinery, etc some people are naturally gifted in what they do and find it easy to achieve success and others have to work hard to achieve success admittedly some don't bother hence the Keegan and Gasgoine comparison