Parking at B&Q

[northsomersetblade]

crowds meet me at Alicante airport after my last visit back to uk


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[seanbeenstattoo]

I can`t emphasise enough these wankers seldom pursue to court. As said above,NEVER ENTER ANY FORM OF COMMUNICATION.
I was in the company of an Excel employee recently in a social setting. She confirmed it`s just a big scam and all the mugs who pay more than compensate for the majority that wipe their arses on the letters.
Even in the unlikely event they went to court who the fuck pays a civil fine.
Fuck that shit.

 

[Jonboy60]

I can`t emphasise enough these wankers seldom pursue to court. As said above,NEVER ENTER ANY FORM OF COMMUNICATION.
I was in the company of an Excel employee recently in a social setting. She confirmed it`s just a big scam and all the mugs who pay more than compensate for the majority that wipe their arses on the letters.
Even in the unlikely event they went to court who the fuck pays a civil fine.
Fuck that shit.

Scared people that's who, they prey on people,sending silly demand letters, making people think they've broken some sort of law.

 

[Dkc]

What happens if you just park up in the south stand car park?

 

[Beat Jedi]

I've never responded to the ones I got, but I found the chase varies from company to company. Britannia Parking did Waitrose carpark and wouldn't say boo to a goose. Presumably Waitrose don't want their customers threatened.

In contrast, Excel Parking cover a lot of carparks and they are a real piece of work. A series of increasingly threatening letters and inflated charges, followed by phone calls from a pseudo-solicitor. Then, after a hiatus of about 4 years, I guess they sold my debt onto another set of bastards who resumed the threats.

Agree with you about Exel. Same company as Vehicle Control Services. Bunch of parasitic cunts. I'll not start on a rant about why as it may take some time!

What I have heard like Ldn_Rd_Blades is that the legislation changed in 2012 to clamp down (as it were) on the illegal clampers but it did make fines more enforceable.

I've had a few pre and post 2012 (in my own allocated parking space that is included in the deeds to my property!) and not paid any but I read that if they do chase it up properly then ignoring it isn't looked on favourably if it actually did go to court and instead you're supposed to send an appeal letter to enter into their official appeal process (which will inevitably be rejected) to show you have acted reasonably. Then when your appeal is rejected just ignore any other letters from them and any of the "debt collector" dick heads. Only respond if you actually do get a proper summons but that's unlikely.

Having said that, if totally ignoring everything is still working for people then fair enough.

 

[JohnDenver]

I was in the company of an Excel employee recently in a social setting. She confirmed it`s just a big scam and all the mugs who pay more than compensate for the majority that wipe their arses on the letters.

I hope she enjoys her job. That company extracts scandalous charges dressed up as fines by putting fear into the vulnerable and uninformed.

I got my first private parking ticket from them, which was a fair cop, if an innocent mistake. However, the charge sticker was dressed up to look like a genuine parking fine. The charge rocketed into hundreds of pounds if not paid immediately. Threats of court action and credit rating drops were made. Phone calls made at night to crank up the fear. Further letters arrived from a pretend solicitor threatening bailiff visits.

I'd have paid up without researching the private parking racket if their charges and actions weren't so disgraceful. But they don't deserve a penny.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I could well be wrong, but even if a contract is entered into, I thought the terms had to be 'reasonable' to be enforced?

Isn't it that the fee/charge is reasonable?

 

[Born on Bramall Lane]

Just be aware if you park in B&Q during home games, they are issuing tickets to some vehicles, if you are observed walking out of the car park you may get a ticket. We got 1 saturday but they put wrong reg on the ticket so should get away with it..............hopefully.

Park outside the Mosque at Heeley . Park anywhere round there . Never seen anyone get a ticket even on double yellow lines.

 

[vorpal blade]

Allahu Akbar

 

[Kenilworth]

November last year a test case went to highest court in UK and the parking companies won.
Their Barrister used company contract law as opposed to consumer contact law and argued it not as a consequential loss of earnings but a reasonable fee (less than £100)

There used to be an independent body POPLA that used to rule on disputes but now they farm it out to solicitors firms, like Wright Hassall in Leamington to review.

You used to be able to argue on the basis that it wasn't their land so they had no right the charge (it's not a penalty as only Councils can charge that) but now it seems they can do so.

It's still a con but it seems it's now enforceable.

Twats

 

[PeteBlade]

November last year a test case went to highest court in UK and the parking companies won.
Their Barrister used company contract law as opposed to consumer contact law and argued it not as a consequential loss of earnings but a reasonable fee (less than £100)

There used to be an independent body POPLA that used to rule on disputes but now they farm it out to solicitors firms, like Wright Hassall in Leamington to review.

You used to be able to argue on the basis that it wasn't their land so they had no right the charge (it's not a penalty as only Councils can charge that) but now it seems they can do so.

It's still a con but it seems it's now enforceable.

Twats

There used to be an 'independent' organisation that governed them but the Director was also a Director of one of the parking companies.

 

[South London Blade]

Im president on a community in Spain , 3 years ago we could get illegal parkers towed or clamped , now we cant due to european directives
Im reduced to scratching please dont park here in their paintwork now

Viva el Presidente !

 

[BLADES1988]

Get Bus in and have 10 pints instead

 

[sheffielder]

If I drive down for whatever reason, I use Green's gym aka Nuffield Health near Waitrose. usually the gate is up so it's easy in and out.

 

[tyke1889]

Just watch out if you park at the back of Argos, loads of shit goes down there.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

They are very much enforceable. There's a tonne of case law on it. A mate of mine went to trial last year and lost. Certain criteria must be met so not all will be enforceable but if the parking companies know what they are doing, they will successfully enforce.

 

[Ted Danson]

Even in the unlikely event they went to court who the fuck pays a civil fine.
Fuck that shit.

Anyone who doesnt want a CCJ on their record pays them.

My mate worked at Tesco at Barclay precinct and he got loads that he ignored, ended up in court and lost, hes in the middle of paying the £2000 the court fined him and now theyve issued proceedings to do him for another £19000. For the record, he never responded to any of them and followed all the 'rules' but they most certainly can get you now so Id be careful ignoring them

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I must admit that I don't know the first thing about the laws on this but...
I don't really see how it's unfair or unreasonable for a company like B&Q to fine non-customers for spending hours parked in their car park.
Saturday afternoon must be one of their busiest days and if all their parking spaces are used by hundreds of Blades fans, it's obviously going to cost them a lot of money.

 

[JohnDenver]

I must admit that I don't know the first thing about the laws on this but...
I don't really see how it's unfair or unreasonable for a company like B&Q to fine non-customers for spending hours parked in their car park.
Saturday afternoon must be one of their busiest days and if all their parking spaces are used by hundreds of Blades fans, it's obviously going to cost them a lot of money.

You're perfectly correct. But some parking enforcement companies are utter scum. Greedy, unreasonable and trading on fear and threat.

I'd have paid my first ever (Excel) Parking ticket without question if it had been under reasonable terms and if their behaviour was justifiable. I've no compunction about fobbing that lot off.

Having learned about the private parking situation from that experience, I'll confess I used to take the mickey in using Waitrose carpark, but quit when the rules changed. That did make me a bit of twat, but nothing comparable to sharks like Excel. They reap what they sow.

 

[carthesis]

Almost every single word that has been said about dealing with Private Parking Companies on this thread is 100% incorrect, and following it is infinitely more likely to land you either in court or with a CCJ.

The Beavis case in the Supreme Court did not, in fact, rule that all charges are applicable. The Supreme Court went to great lengths to point out that was a special case, with unusually clear signage, and a few other distinguishing points.

The advice *USED* to be to ignore them, but these days Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act (2012) allows transfer of liability to the Registered Keeper. By ignoring this, you're giving the PPC free rein to get a default judgement in court that you know nothing about - ref. "credit clamping".

The article on the MoneySavingExpert website is catastrophically out of date. Best place is to check out the MSE Forums, where there's an entire sub-forum devoted to dealing with these things.

To reiterate:

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD THESE "FINES" BE SUMMARILY IGNORED. THIS HASN'T BEEN THE CASE SINCE 2012.

 

[blade too long]

Viva el Presidente !

Thats reserved for those who keep an untidy garden

 

[ghandi]

Almost every single word that has been said about dealing with Private Parking Companies on this thread is 100% incorrect, and following it is infinitely more likely to land you either in court or with a CCJ.

The Beavis case in the Supreme Court did not, in fact, rule that all charges are applicable. The Supreme Court went to great lengths to point out that was a special case, with unusually clear signage, and a few other distinguishing points.

The advice *USED* to be to ignore them, but these days Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act (2012) allows transfer of liability to the Registered Keeper. By ignoring this, you're giving the PPC free rein to get a default judgement in court that you know nothing about - ref. "credit clamping".

The article on the MoneySavingExpert website is catastrophically out of date. Best place is to check out the MSE Forums, where there's an entire sub-forum devoted to dealing with these things.

To reiterate:

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD THESE "FINES" BE SUMMARILY IGNORED. THIS HASN'T BEEN THE CASE SINCE 2012.

I've summarily ignored one in 2013 and two in early 2014 and received my last correspondence in June 2014.

 

[metalblade]

Just a thought if people parked responsibly these shithouse parking enforcement companies would cease to exist .............................. think about it.

 

[carthesis]

I've summarily ignored one in 2013 and two in early 2014 and received my last correspondence in June 2014.

Then you've been fortunate. However be aware that you can easily be taken to small claims court for up to 6 years from the date if you don't deal with these things.

Seriously - these things are better not ignored. Check out the MSE Forums if you get one, as there are ways to avoid the charge. Mostly these companies are utter scumbags that just try it on with threats.

 

[boo radley]

Just a thought if people parked responsibly these shithouse parking enforcement companies would cease to exist .............................. think about it.

Like that would really happen. where do you suggest people park on match days?

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

Only in Britain does the public run around worrying about cunts like private parking companies.
We are obsessed with bowing down to wankers in suits and shitting ourselves over official looking letters.
We are talking about parking in free car parks where the biggest infingement is overstayng the supposed time limit.
If you are so downtrodden and weak to accept some wanker sticking a £100 meaningless envelope on your windscreen and feel you have to pay it or waste 1 second of your life worrying or interacting with these scumbags then frankly they deserve to steal £100 from you.

 

[YES Blade]

Like that would really happen. where do you suggest people park on match days?

Street parking? I've done that for every home match I've attended for 20+ years.

 

[YES Blade]

I just don't see the point in risking getting a fine and potential CCJs just to park closer to the lane or to save a few quid in parking fares.

If we all parked in B&Q, Supermarkets, Gyms or any other business car park it would be a huge problem for these companies, so why do it? You wouldn't park on someone's driveway without permission so why is it OK to park in big company's car park? There's not much difference in my eyes.

 

[metalblade]

I just don't see the point in risking getting a fine and potential CCJs just to park closer to the lane or to save a few quid in parking fares.

If we all parked in B&Q, Supermarkets, Gyms or any other business car park it would be a huge problem for these companies, so why do it? You wouldn't park on someone's driveway without permission so why is it OK to park in big company's car park? There's not much difference in my eyes.

Obviously boo radley would that is why these sharks exist. I really don't get people who seem to think they can do whatever they want and then rooer like fuck when they get pulled.

 

[The Crab]

Obviously boo radley would that is why these sharks exist. I really don't get people who seem to think they can do whatever they want and then rooer like fuck when they get pulled.

I'm no great lover of parking companies or their tactics, but there is plenty of street parking if you are willing to walk a bit, or just use one of the pay ones?

Something about owning a car that comes with an inflated sense of entitlement, especially at School run time.