Incoming? Oliver Antman

[Champagneblade]

Even if Rangers get knocked out of the group stages, he’s still playing European football and putting himself in a much bigger shop window than anything the championship can offer. They can also offer a much bigger salary than we could.

As a prospect for any new signing, Rangers are a much bigger pull than we are, regardless of the standard of the domestic league.

Guess it depends how much you rate European competition.

The top level after the group phases of the Champions League, yes, but overall, personally I don’t. Beating substandard teams from Greece or Luxembourg or Belgium, I don’t see as any great achievement.

I think most top 6 Championship teams could have a good run in the Europa League based on their best XIs and most definitely the Conference League outside of the other English teams.

I appreciate some foreign players grow up with it seen as a pinnacle, because let’s be honest, their own top leagues in most cases are not up to much compared to the strength of the English leagues.

Then 90% of the matches at home for Rangers are against League One level teams.

I can see the attraction but as you part allude, you’re going there to get a move elsewhere. You join an English club that gets promoted and you’re already in one of the top two leagues in the world.

That’s just me and I may be in the minority. I don’t like European competition. I find it a bit of a fad.
Someone is judged that he has “played in Europe” as some sort of badge of honour; yeah, he’s played teams from Luxembourg and Latvia that wouldn’t beat Kiveton. Well done, grow up That’s my sentiment. Knock out phases of the Champions League rest, absolute fraud of a competition. Then again I preferred it when Forest won back to back and you had to be Champions rather than 4th place to compete.

 

[Aston max]

Guess it depends how much you rate European competition.

The top level after the group phases of the Champions League, yes, but overall, personally I don’t. Beating substandard teams from Greece or Luxembourg or Belgium, I don’t see as any great achievement.

I think most top 6 Championship teams could have a good run in the Europa League based on their best XIs and most definitely the Conference League outside of the other English teams.

I appreciate some foreign players grow up with it seen as a pinnacle, because let’s be honest, their own top leagues in most cases are not up to much compared to the strength of the English leagues.

Then 90% of the matches at home for Rangers are against League One level teams.

I can see the attraction but as you part allude, you’re going there to get a move elsewhere. You join an English club that gets promoted and you’re already in one of the top two leagues in the world.

That’s just me and I may be in the minority. I don’t like European competition. I find it a bit of a fad.
Someone is judged that he has “played in Europe” as some sort of badge of honour; yeah, he’s played teams from Luxembourg and Latvia that wouldn’t beat Kiveton. Well done, grow up That’s my sentiment. Knock out phases of the Champions League rest, absolute fraud of a competition. Then again I preferred it when Forest win back to back and you had to be Champions rather than 4th place to compete.

Trouble is our 4th place team would win most of the European leagues at a canter, agree with the comment about championship clubs level

 

[Wards]

We're potentially a better move as a stepping stone towards a good PL move. Don't see too many coming from the SPL through to the PL these days.

 

[10-0 win]

Our wageoffers for new players probably lower than a year ago due to parachute ending

 

[GrunkyPeep]

I'm pretty sure it's complete twaddle that we were ever in for him. There's no credible source and he doesn't seem to fit the profile.

Would make sense that Nixon was paid to publish a story about interest to spur any of the team in for him to make an offer.

 

[Drachblade]

Rangers leading the race to sign Mikey Moore from Tottenham on loan too apparently so I think the Rangers links are just lazy journalism linking them with any winger, Could be wrong still

 

[Sam64]

 

[bertieblade]

Rangers FC is interested in Oliver Antman, that much is clear. There is no official offer yet, but it can go quickly. Meanwhile, Celtic is still daring (not so successful) attempts for Jakob Breum.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I know the normal naysayers are now out in force, but I'm not convinced that it means our chances are dead by default. I also don't buy that he's Rangers top target, as we've seen several times is could just a likely be a ruse to push players like JRS and Palace into getting a deal done. I think there could be more milage on this and it's not necessarily the doom and gloom scenario that is being spread. Plus even if it is true, it means JRS is available as has been mentioned already by others.

 

[Rochdaleblade]

Call me cynical, but I suspect he will go to whichever club offers him the most money. I doubt the relative merits of SPL or Championship will come into it.

 

[brownblade]

Call me cynical, but I suspect he will go to whichever club offers him the most money. I doubt the relative merits of SPL or Championship will come into it.

Maybe.

Most likely he'll go wherever the queen takes him.

 

[NerdyBlade]

I'm pretty sure it's complete twaddle that we were ever in for him. There's no credible source and he doesn't seem to fit the profile.

Danny Hall has said we haven't made an offer admist "reported" interest

 

[Wards]

Just read it , I think soon question marks might be asked of these new owners struggling getting 1st team signing as seen over the line doesn't seem to be any intent ,but A l signing flooded in no problems!!!!.

Just worked out there is a 99% chance this is ANOTHER Fallowfield account

 

[Guesty]

Danny Hall has said we haven't made an offer admist "reported" interest

Well there you go. A far cry from "it's close" as reported elsewhere. Close to lodging and opening bid, maybe.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Oliver Antman is here on his way
Oliver Antman is here to stay
But he would rather be anywhere else etc

 

[GrunkyPeep]

Danny Hall has said we haven't made an offer admist "reported" interest

Listening to TalkShite on the way home last week and they were mentioning that making an official offer is usually one of the last steps of the process.

 

[Drachblade]

Mikey Moore is joining rangers on a loan from spurs so surely that puts to bed any move for Antman from them? Might've been a smoke screen like we sometimes do?

 

[Blade58]

Danny Hall has said we haven't made an offer admist "reported" interest

Tbh, if that is true it doesn’t surprise me

 

[NateDogg]

Mikey Moore is joining rangers on a loan from spurs so surely that puts to bed any move for Antman from them? Might've been a smoke screen like we sometimes do?

Hes only 17 though.

 

[Drachblade]

Hes only 17 though.

Very highly rated and was playing some games for Tottenham too before his injury but regardless sky sports now saying Rangers are in talks to sign Antman

 

[Eric_Brooks]

Hes only 17 though.

He might be, but he’s fucking good

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Guess it depends how much you rate European competition.

The top level after the group phases of the Champions League, yes, but overall, personally I don’t. Beating substandard teams from Greece or Luxembourg or Belgium, I don’t see as any great achievement.

I think most top 6 Championship teams could have a good run in the Europa League based on their best XIs and most definitely the Conference League outside of the other English teams.

I appreciate some foreign players grow up with it seen as a pinnacle, because let’s be honest, their own top leagues in most cases are not up to much compared to the strength of the English leagues.

Then 90% of the matches at home for Rangers are against League One level teams.

I can see the attraction but as you part allude, you’re going there to get a move elsewhere. You join an English club that gets promoted and you’re already in one of the top two leagues in the world.

That’s just me and I may be in the minority. I don’t like European competition. I find it a bit of a fad.
Someone is judged that he has “played in Europe” as some sort of badge of honour; yeah, he’s played teams from Luxembourg and Latvia that wouldn’t beat Kiveton. Well done, grow up That’s my sentiment. Knock out phases of the Champions League rest, absolute fraud of a competition. Then again I preferred it when Forest won back to back and you had to be Champions rather than 4th place to compete.

Not sure that’s entirely accurate.
I wouldn’t have minded us ‘slumming it in the Europa League last season against the likes of Lazio, Athletic Club, Lyon, Frankfurt, Olympiakos, Sociadad, Ajax, Roma, Galatasaray, Fenerbahce, Porto,albeit alongside the 15th & 17th worst teams in the Premier League- one of which then consequently ‘qualified’ for this seasons Champions League.
Whilst that may appear to dilute my point I’m doubtful that (m)any of the “top 6 Championship teams could have a good run in the Europa League” even if they ended up facing Manure &/ or Tottingham.
On a slightly different point, re- organisation of the competition(s) has resulted in (interminable) early stages being padded out’ with ‘minnows’ (akin to early rounds of FA Cup) but is sufficiently skewed to favour ‘big’ clubs & a decent quality competition / opposition in the latter stages having waded through admittedly considerable quantities of ‘sediment’, if not dross

 

[Eric_Brooks]

Rangers are building a very championship looking side which is another rebuild which won’t get near Celtic unfortunately

 

[LondonBlade89]

Rangers are building a very championship looking side which is another rebuild which won’t get near Celtic unfortunately

I think that’s just a normal Rangers side.

 

[john Mathison]

He is still in The Netherlands and trained with Go ahead today. Talk of a deal with Ranger's, is premature. (Sky Sports)

 

[Brownieblade]

Rangers are building a very championship looking side which is another rebuild which won’t get near Celtic unfortunately

Let’s hope so

 

[Champagneblade]

Not sure that’s entirely accurate.
I wouldn’t have minded us ‘slumming it in the Europa League last season against the likes of Lazio, Athletic Club, Lyon, Frankfurt, Olympiakos, Sociadad, Ajax, Roma, Galatasaray, Fenerbahce, Porto,albeit alongside the 15th & 17th worst teams in the Premier League- one of which then consequently ‘qualified’ for this seasons Champions League.
Whilst that may appear to dilute my point I’m doubtful that (m)any of the “top 6 Championship teams could have a good run in the Europa League” even if they ended up facing Manure &/ or Tottingham.
On a slightly different point, re- organisation of the competition(s) has resulted in (interminable) early stages being padded out’ with ‘minnows’ (akin to early rounds of FA Cup) but is sufficiently skewed to favour ‘big’ clubs & a decent quality competition / opposition in the latter stages having waded through admittedly considerable quantities of ‘sediment’, if not dross

Im not expecting a majority even to agree with me, I just don’t see the wow factor of European football/experience being put on a pedestal.

If Rangers can have a reasonable run, I don’t see how Leeds, Burnley, United, Sunderland etc couldn’t have done similar. At least those top three had squads valued higher than that of Rangers.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Im not expecting a majority even to agree with me, I just don’t see the wow factor of European football/experience being put on a pedestal.

If Rangers can have a reasonable run, I don’t see how Leeds, Burnley, United, Sunderland etc couldn’t have done similar. At least those top three had squads valued higher than that of Rangers.

Scottish teams get the advantage of not having competitive games most weekends, so the European games are their entire focus, aside from the old firm matches of course.