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Did not know that. Reason enough to want it.👍

We’re also the biggest club in the UK to have not been in a single post war cup final (FA Cup final or EFL final). We’ve not won a play-off final either ha ha.
We’ve been in loads of post war FA Cuo and EFL semi finals though. Also reached 4 play-off finals, lost the lot not even scoring a single gol.

Sheff United have a pretty impressive history up to the 2nd world war....always in the top flight...won 4 FA cups and won/challenged for the league
but since the war we’ve been generally shit.....I know 80 years olds Blades who‘ve not seen us win a thing....not even a cup final ha ha.
We feel as though there’s been some curse on us whilst you see shitty clubs like Wigan win cups.
That‘s why it’s quite emotional to see Chris Wilder basically putting 2 fingers up at the football Gods, he is transforming the whole club...the man is a winner.
 
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Were you a second division when you played in ECWC in 80/81??
Yes, we were.
All was going well until Dinamo Tbilisi came to Upton Park. It was like they'd beamed down from another planet, the extraordinary level of football that they played.
They beat us 4-1 at home & we were a good team at the time, running away with the second division title & getting to the League Cup final where Liverpool cheated us...
They let us beat them 1-0 at their place (we were never going to score 4, which we needed cos of away goals) & they went on to win the ECWC. Worthy winners that year, although I believe they are no longer the force that they once were & haven't been for a long time.
 
You have to hope our new signings aren’t reading this shit about not wanting to qualify for Europe!!
 
Just fucking ridiculous to be honest. I don't know what else to say. What you gonna do if we score a last minute winner last kick of the season to qualify for Europe for the first time in our history? Boo?

Qualifying for Europe like:

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Yes, we were.
All was going well until Dinamo Tbilisi came to Upton Park. It was like they'd beamed down from another planet, the extraordinary level of football that they played.
They beat us 4-1 at home & we were a good team at the time, running away with the second division title & getting to the League Cup final where Liverpool cheated us...
They let us beat them 1-0 at their place (we were never going to score 4, which we needed cos of away goals) & they went on to win the ECWC. Worthy winners that year, although I believe they are no longer the force that they once were & haven't been for a long time.

I remember that game....think they had a really good player called David Kipiani.....at least you won a European cup in 65.
West Ham fans have some similarities to us......big club promising a lot....getting close but always eventually letting you down.
If you or Aston Villa are relegated this season then either club could be facing troubled times.
 
We’re also the biggest club in the UK to have not been in a single post war cup final (FA Cup final or EFL final). We’ve not won a play-off final either ha ha.
We’ve been in loads of post war FA Cuo and EFL semi finals though. Also reached 4 play-off finals, lost the lot not even scoring a single gol.

Sheff United have a pretty impressive history up to the 2nd world war....always in the top flight...won 4 FA cups and won/challenged for the league
but since the war we’ve been generally shit.....I know 80 years olds Blades who‘ve not seen us win a thing....not even a cup final ha ha.
We feel as though there’s been some curse on us whilst you see shitty clubs like Wigan win cups.
That‘s why it’s quite emotional to see Chris Wilder basically putting 2 fingers up at the football Gods, he is transforming the whole club.
Blimey, just didn't realise. Always thought of you as one of the big clubs, I guess because you had a LOT of early success & hadn't disappeared like Bradford PA, Darwen or poor little Newton Heath;)...!
No wonder you're bloody starved!
Wigan weren't even a football league team until 1978!
 
We attracted players like sander berge due to the possibility of playing in Europe
We could strengthen our chances of keeping Henderson if we finish 4th and we get champions league football when man Utd don't. Wolves have managed to fit in Europa games and continue without succumbing to 2nd season syndrome. Only blades fans could be more sure of not surviving second season due to the inbuilt well we always used to fail attitudes. This isn't the teams of the past . This is now. Get used to it
 
So we have the best chance ever to qualify for Europe for the first time in our history and you don't want it? Same with the not bothered about the cup brigade.

Don't understand the logic at all. If it's possible grab it with both hands.
The cup or Europe?? Or both??
 
I remember that game....think they had a really good player called David Kipiani.....at least you won a European cup in 65.
West Ham fans have some similarities to us......big club promising a lot....getting close but always eventually letting you down.
If you or Aston Villa are relegated this season then either club could be facing troubled times.
Yes, they had 3 or 4 really top, top players. DK was one of them.
Yep, we've had some good years. Many of us can't quite believe it's been 40 years since that FA Cup win over Arsenal in 1980 (although we should have won it in 2006 - bloody Liverpool again...).
It's not that we feel entitled (if you support WHU (or yourselves, by the sound of it) you really can't be a glory hunter 😄), just that with 64, 75 & 80, we got a bit too used to it! It's the hope that kills you..
Could easily be another 40 years before any more success..
 
We’re also the biggest club in the UK to have not been in a single post war cup final (FA Cup final or EFL final). We’ve not won a play-off final either ha ha.
We’ve been in loads of post war FA Cuo and EFL semi finals though. Also reached 4 play-off finals, lost the lot not even scoring a single gol.

Sheff United have a pretty impressive history up to the 2nd world war....always in the top flight...won 4 FA cups and won/challenged for the league
but since the war we’ve been generally shit.....I know 80 years olds Blades who‘ve not seen us win a thing....not even a cup final ha ha.
We feel as though there’s been some curse on us whilst you see shitty clubs like Wigan win cups.
That‘s why it’s quite emotional to see Chris Wilder basically putting 2 fingers up at the football Gods, he is transforming the whole club...the man is a winner.


We’ve been in semi finals, play off finals, etc quite a few times in the last thirty years. Not so much in the forty four before that. You have to be seventy plus or late sixties and a child At the time of the last one in 1961. Despite the losses, younger fans should realise that for years and years Blades fans only had one opportunity of Wembley glory. We’ve had a fair few since and now we’re all - almost - seeing probably the most memorable team in our lifetimes. When Wilder is mentioned in the same breath as John Harris, who was held back by the board , you know things are good. Forget “biggest club that hasn’t” look forwards. We’ve got the “team that might” these days.
 
We’ve been in semi finals, play off finals, etc quite a few times in the last thirty years. Not so much in the forty four before that. You have to be seventy plus or late sixties and a child At the time of the last one in 1961. Despite the losses, younger fans should realise that for years and years Blades fans only had one opportunity of Wembley glory. We’ve had a fair few since and now we’re all - almost - seeing probably the most memorable team in our lifetimes. When Wilder is mentioned in the same breath as John Harris, who was held back by the board , you know things are good. Forget “biggest club that hasn’t” look forwards. We’ve got the “team that might” these days.
After our pitiful performances in it this season, I would honestly love to see you win the FA Cup this season, if nothing else.
About time it wasn't one of the usual suspects & you're clearly LONG overdue some glory.
 
The upsides seem clear, potentially we play teams that employ different styles of football, thus it's a learning curve for Wilder, Knill and the players. It teaches the players that finding solutions isn't always easy, so they improve as a consequence. It gives us a bigger profile and might help attract players.

The downside, travelling can knacker players so lots of rest time is needed. For teams acclimatised to European football they're used to it, so it's a mixed bag for us. There's also injuries to consider, and if we're doing well in the league I can imagine there would be dissenting voices who say bin the Europa Cup. I'm in favour of European games, but let's see what the pros and cons are and then I'll offer a more concrete view. There's also the supporters and the cost of travelling, I know other team's fans manage this, but even so it won't come cheaply.......but fuck it, I love the thought of glory (assumes we win of course) and it can only help this club improve.
 
I have been watching this team since the late 60s, so although I am used to disappointments, I honestly believe that our current trajectory has changed the belief levels for players, management and fans alike.
If it goes to plan, we will soon be the kind of club looking to become a regular top 6 PL team. I see no reason why that cannot happen.
It follows that qualification foe European competition will become part of our calendar every year. Thanks to a board and manager in harmony, we can expect big things from the Blades for some time to come. This season is no longer about survival, or planning to avoid second season syndrome. It’s about becoming a regular top six side, with all the benefits that go along with that. European games, and involvement in domestic cup competitions.
It simply does not make sense to look at our football future any other way.

PS. As a fan of many years, I have been used to relegation, losing play of finals and not being promoted from, or even in contention for, the pub league.
My point is, under current management and ownership, the future feels decidedly different. It’s positive, and we are going places. In the past I might have accepted consolidation, and mid table obscurity in the PL. Not any more.
 
Yes, they had 3 or 4 really top, top players. DK was one of them.
Yep, we've had some good years. Many of us can't quite believe it's been 40 years since that FA Cup win over Arsenal in 1980 (although we should have won it in 2006 - bloody Liverpool again...).
It's not that we feel entitled (if you support WHU (or yourselves, by the sound of it) you really can't be a glory hunter 😄), just that with 64, 75 & 80, we got a bit too used to it! It's the hope that kills you..
Could easily be another 40 years before any more success..

In 1980 I lived in Essex. I used to work an area from the East End of London all throughout the county of Essex. I don't think I've ever seen such fervent support for a football team as that which I witnessed for West Ham. Just about every car I saw had claret and blue ribbons on it. Everywhere I went I saw car stickers and scarves and posters - you just couldn't get away from it - and people spoke about West Ham, with such affection. I hadn't realised until then, what a big club West Ham were. If I'm correct, you sold over 50,000 season tickets this season - considerably more than Arsenal and only just slightly less than that other London club, "Manchester United". ;)

My early memories of West Ham were good ones. 1970's team with Billy Bonds, Frank Lampard Senior, Clyde Best, Geoff Hurst, Bobby Moore, Pop Robson and the like. West Ham used to be known as "The Academy of Football", because they played football the beautiful way and brought so many good players through. I never liked Trevor Brooking as a player though. I know he was technically very good - but he was boring compared with our maverick, Tony Currie - and he kept Currie out of the England side for that reason. I was to go on to dislike Brooking even more, a few years later, when he was in a position of influence which, in business, would be called "a conflict of interest". But let's not open up that old wound again!

West Ham seem to be a team, a bit like us, who found it difficult to stay at the top level of football consistently. I know why that is for us - it's basically down to mismanagement of the club and a dire lack of ambition. So, you can imagine how "most" of us Blades (not all of us obviously) are feeling right now, to see our club being managed properly and see the investment being made on the playing side of things. It's just a dream come true. At one time (before my time) our club was referred to as "a powerhouse of Northern football". Some of us dream that we may become one again. And at very least, I want to see my team compete with some of the best teams in the world, in European competitions, before I eventually depart this mortal coil.

Should you ever venture to these parts and get to know the psyche of many of the people around here, it is one of low expectations and a feeling that something bad is bound to happen. Whether that's based on having the shit bombed out of us in the World War, or whatever, I don't know, but it's "glass half empty" syndrome for many folks and, to be honest, it gets a bit fuckin' depressing after a while. But you can't change these people - it's impossible. If you're not careful they'll drag you down to their level of despondency.

When you hear them telling you that things are not possible, or that if we did do one thing, we'd end up being disadvantaged by it in a different way, you just have to bloody well ignore them. But it's hard. It's like the old "Chinese Water torture" - where the constant slow drip of water on the forehead eventually sent folks mad. That's what it's like with some of these folks, "Not ready for the Prem", "Prefer to stay in the Championship", "We'll get thrashed every week", "Don't want to play in Europe, it'll cause us problems in the Prem", "drip, drip, drip, drip".

I hope your words of wisdom, about enjoying the good times while you can, and always wanting more, will help. But I wouldn't count on it! And some will tell you that winning the FA Cup in 1980 took it out of you and that's why you've not won much since! ;)
 

Assuming we finish top half but not in European spots where exactly would we be pushing on to? People really want us finishing exactly 6th but no higher every season? Do we start throwing games if we're doing to well at the end of the season?

Fuck that, I want us singing 'youre in the carabao, were at the bernabau' when the pigs drop next year.
 
Our history, during my 56 years of supporting them since I was 10 is a liturgy of penny-pinching and running a professional club with non-league financing.
at last we are just beginning to loosen the purse strings and utilise the money the team won with promotion on improving our squad,
This is undoubtedly a new era for the blades, far fewer constraints on our ability to improve, keeping our better players and attracting better players.
If anyone does not enjoy it and embrace these changes and look forward instead of backwards its time to stop watching us, unless you enjoy the good years you are set for nothing but disappointment .
Im hoping to drive a couple of hours from my house to watch the blades play Valencia at the Mestalla. or at either of the Madrid clubs
Be a whole different world
 
Are English teams who qualify for Europe restricted to using their 25 player Premier League squads? Obviously clubs want to play their strongest teams, but injuries and loss of form can quickly mess things up.
 
I am the same as you wolves have a better team than us and at the start of the season they really struggled .We need to cement our self's in the prem first
But they’re not struggling now. This is Chris Wilders united remember
 
Couldn't care less about qualifying for Europe. Second season in the Prem is always tough. Much prefer us to push on without the distraction of Thursday night games in Slovakia, injuries, suspensions etc.
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UEFA will also pay teams 2.7 million euros for every match they win and 900,000 euros for every match they draw. So, if a team wins every single game on their way to lifting the Champions League trophy, they will earn 82.2 million euros
 
Couldn't care less about qualifying for Europe. Second season in the Prem is always tough. Much prefer us to push on without the distraction of Thursday night games in Slovakia, injuries, suspensions etc.

Can anyone on this forum imagine Chris Wilder thinking what this poster is thinking?
Can we all for a minute imagine what Chris Wilder would say to any player in his squad who had this negative attitude?
 
I’m grateful not greedy.

I’m also competative and want us to do really well this time round in the PL.
That said 4 years ago at 64yrs old I told my sons I had resigned myself and I didn’t think I’d live long enough to see us in the PL again.

Then feckin me, here we are so for that I’m grateful.

Europe wasn’t even a dream 4 years ago and yet here we are standing on the edge. If we do it I will be even more grateful for seeing it happen in my lifetime with my two sons to share it with, I hope that will give them memories when my seat is empty.

If we don’t make it I won’t rue missing out, that would be greedy. I will console myself in seeing for once the club and fans seem to be as one. The owner I appear on evidence to have misjudged loves the club for its history and tradition not for its financial return and or status. The manager (who without doubt is the biggest blade ever regardless of what it says on the side of the hotel) is the football messiah. Finally and so importantly we have soldiers on the pitch and incoming quality in quantity.

I’m grateful not greedy, but WTF....
Komm schon, du rot-weißer Zauberer
allez vous sorciers rouges et blancs
kom op jullie rode en witte tovenaars

or COYRAWW
 
Are English teams who qualify for Europe restricted to using their 25 player Premier League squads? Obviously clubs want to play their strongest teams, but injuries and loss of form can quickly mess things up.
There is a 25 man squad for the league and a 25 man squad for european competition.
 
Did not know that. Reason enough to want it.👍
In 1962 we finished in 5th place, the FL nominated us, Everton (4th place) and Burnley (2nd) to take part in the 1962-63 Fairs Cup but the Fairs Cup committee wanted Everton, Wendy (6th) and Birmingham (17th). Several meetings between the FL and the Fairs Cup committee tried to resolve the argument but in the end Everton was the only English entry in the 1962-63 Fairs Cup
 

After our pitiful performances in it this season, I would honestly love to see you win the FA Cup this season, if nothing else.
About time it wasn't one of the usual suspects & you're clearly LONG overdue some glory.

You're not the only Hammer I've heard that from. We seem to be quite popular with the many I know down here. Proper club, proper fans, proper manager, proper team seems to be a consensus about us.
 

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