Norwood and Coutts Together?

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Not sure if it’s been mentioned but last season Fulham played both Norwood and McDonald in their team as holding 2. That still leaves room for 3 in a more attacking role, (2 with fleck) so Duffy and one other. Providing we play 5-3-2.
 



Not sure if it’s been mentioned but last season Fulham played both Norwood and McDonald in their team as holding 2. That still leaves room for 3 in a more attacking role, (2 with fleck) so Duffy and one other. Providing we play 5-3-2.

Fulham also had an 18 year old super man who was simultaneously able to play Left Back, Left Wing, In the hole and tradditional Centre Forward.

Best player in the League last year by a long chalk.
 
I see Norwood and Coutts competing for the same role in midfield. For me, Norwood is easily better than Coutts, he can do everything Coutts can and more.

Look at the goals on Saturday, that summed it up perfectly why he is better. Great ball on the set piece in for O’Connell’s goal, goal directly from a free kick (when did that last happen?) and how he won the ball then played in Freeman for Sharp’s goal.

The quality of midfielders must be extremely high in the Premier League if Fulham and Brighton don’t think he is good enough for that level.
 
The fact that this is even in discussion makes me smile. In all my blade years (since 89) weve have good keepers, strikers and defenders but never a midfield like this. Doesnt matter who he picks id be confident of controlling the centre of the park for the first time ever
 
Our problem seems to be we have too many good players ,Wilder needs to address this

Players are competitive by nature, the better the players they are playing with the better they will become.
There'll come a time when we need better than Fleck, Norwood, Duffy and Coutts, it's the only way to move forward.
And this should be done gradually whilst those four players are still with us, and not wait until three of them have gone before we think about it
 
I’ll be frank. Unusual I know !!

I doubt Wilder will be able to accommodate them both.

Norwood quite rightly keeps the shirt for now while Coutts builds up to full match fitness with U23 games and minutes off the bench.

Norwood had better maintain his standards though, as the slightest of drops will see him benched.

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The slightest drop of standards from Norwood would still mean he merits a place in the team, he’s been that good, only if he had a mare weak upon week would he then be dropped which judging by his early games won’t be happening, for me he’s too good for this league and will barely have a bad game.

Why some are trying to get Coutts in at the moment and spoil what’s happening at present is baffling, we are currently playing the best football under Wilder and it’s no coincidence who has had an instant impact.

Norwood is only 27, Coutts is 30, Norwood has been capped over 50 times for his country and Coutts has never been capped, that should tell you all you need to know regards who is the best and needs to play most out of the two of them which is a shame for someone with Coutts talents.

Coutts is some way off after his injury but as I see it he’ll only have a chance of playing with Norwood from the start and not instead off or he might get game time with him off the bench but these are the only two scenarios I can see as it stands. Coutts will not play instead of Norwood, I hope that helps. :)
 
I'm looking forward to watching teams doubling up on,and trying to stop Norwood and then we just give it to Coutts.
 
For the time being, I can see the best way forward being, Norwood, Duffy, Fleck starting, with Coutts replacing Duffy later on, and Norwood taking Duffy's role.
Ease Coutts back in and we see all 3 play together and start to build that bond that Fleck and Coutts have had.
I know this makes Lundstrum obsolete, but he's a different type of player, more for protecting the lead, which we very rarely do.

I think Grealish is hoping for that, before we play Villa next time........
 
The slightest drop of standards from Norwood would still mean he merits a place in the team, he’s been that good, only if he had a mare weak upon week would he then be dropped which judging by his early games won’t be happening, for me he’s too good for this league and will barely have a bad game.

Why some are trying to get Coutts in at the moment and spoil what’s happening at present is baffling, we are currently playing the best football under Wilder and it’s no coincidence who has had an instant impact.

Norwood is only 27, Coutts is 30, Norwood has been capped over 50 times for his country and Coutts has never been capped, that should tell you all you need to know regards who is the best and needs to play most out of the two of them which is a shame for someone with Coutts talents.

Coutts is some way off after his injury but as I see it he’ll only have a chance of playing with Norwood from the start and not instead off or he might get game time with him off the bench but these are the only two scenarios I can see as it stands. Coutts will not play instead of Norwood, I hope that helps. :)
Our views differ then.

Norwood has been class. For 3 games.

I wouldn’t write Coutts off just yet. While Norwood is performing to a high level, consistently, Coutts may find it difficult to break in to the side. Initially at least.

But make NO mistake, Coutts is a class act himself, with or without the caps. Wilder appears very aware of the impact he has, and, IMHO, will at some stage reintroduce him somehow. Perhaps alongside Ollie. Who knows.

But a player of the ability of Coutts should not be bench warming with any degree of regularity going forward. He is far too good for that.

While acknowledging just how good Fleck and Norwood have been, Coutts remains my personal numero uno as far as overall importance to the side. The big cog :)

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Our views differ then.

Norwood has been class. For 3 games.

I wouldn’t write Coutts off just yet. While Norwood is performing to a high level, consistently, Coutts may find it difficult to break in to the side. Initially at least.

But make NO mistake, Coutts is a class act himself, with or without the caps. Wilder appears very aware of the impact he has, and, IMHO, will at some stage reintroduce him somehow. Perhaps alongside Ollie. Who knows.

But a player of the ability of Coutts should not be bench warming with any degree of regularity going forward. He is far too good for that.

While acknowledging just how good Fleck and Norwood have been, Coutts remains my personal numero uno as far as overall importance to the side. The big cog :)

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I respect your opinion but for me Norwood is the ‘big cog’. Coutts won’t be back anytime soon, he’s been out for a long time and we shouldn’t expect too much from him too soon.
 
I respect your opinion but for me Norwood is the ‘big cog’. Coutts won’t be back anytime soon, he’s been out for a long time and we shouldn’t expect too much from him too soon.
And I respect yours.

Don’t underestimate his role in the squad as the “natural” leader or captain as well. Borne of pure admiration and respect from his peers.

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I respect your opinion

And I respect yours.

This 'my dad is smaller than your dad' stuff will get us nowhere.

Remember Sheffield Untied fans are a disgrace and you both need to start nastily abusing each other forthwith.

Otherwise the forum will start to get a reputation as a welcoming, objective and friendly place to be.
 



This 'my dad is smaller than your dad' stuff will get us nowhere.

Remember Sheffield Untied fans are a disgrace and you both need to start nastily abusing each other forthwith.

Otherwise the forum will start to get a reputation as a welcoming, objective and friendly place to be.
I lied ;)

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To be honest, all opinions of who is better in our excellent midfield, are worthless. Like all good teams, the best combination will evolve, either by accident or design, and probably sooner rather than later. One thing is sure though, NONE of the 'golden 4' are undroppable.

I still can't believe we have a golden 4 at all. It's as though we found 80% of Willy Wonka's golden tickets!
 
- Start wi Norwood
- Smash three in
- Brings Coutts on for Duffy in the second half to shore up the midfield and keep Duffy as fresh as possible throughout the season
- Score two more on the counter
- Premier League

Fucking piece of piss.
 
I'm with Wizardry on this. I would love Coutts to get back to his pre-injury standards but there are no guarantees on this I'm afraid.
But assuming he does, I do think Norwood is Coutts plus.
 
If Norwood had played shit people would be saying ‘don’t judge him on three games’. So why are we judging him after three games? Brayford was immense when he first joined us.
 
If Norwood had played shit people would be saying ‘don’t judge him on three games’. So why are we judging him after three games? Brayford was immense when he first joined us.
Not sure most are judging him on 3 games tbh. He has a track record of success at this level and 50 odd international caps. I think the current reaction is one of pure delight that he seems to be miles better than we ever knew, and for peanuts.
Even if he goes 'off peak' he will always be a very talented player.
 
Not sure most are judging him on 3 games tbh. He has a track record of success at this level and 50 odd international caps. I think the current reaction is one of pure delight that he seems to be miles better than we ever knew, and for peanuts.
Even if he goes 'off peak' he will always be a very talented player.
Don’t get me wrong, I rate him but like every player, he’ll have bad games, loss of form and injuries. I won’t slate a player after three games so I’m not getting too carried away with Norwood’s first three games for us.
 
in direct answer to the OP question

It's a yes - you can't have too many good footballers in a team - unless you are an advocate of hoofball.

As our reputation as being a great passing team (like the first 19 games last season) starts to permeate round the Championship again (especially after Villa), teams are going to come and close us down - the more footballers you have the less chance the opposition have of nullifying how we play.

There could be times when Couts/Fleck/Norwood and Duffy may play together - you can't mark all of these out of a game, especially if we get into the habit of pretty triangles played at pace like we did v Villa. Teams won't be able to live with it.

We should all welcome the recent influx of "proper" footballers - CW has been true to his word - he's brought in quality - so lets use all of it when needed.

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Yes and then we can boo him!

BOOOOOOOOOO!

Only in S2 remember.....
Oh, someone will. When it’s February , he’s got a heavy cold, is carrying a slight knock and doesn’t quite match what he’s doing now, someone will post ‘he dunt give a shit now he’s got a permanent contract’.

It’s not exclusive to S2 though, that would be a very insular and parochial view to take.
 
It’s not exclusive to S2 though, that would be a very insular and parochial view to take.

I'm sure if we ever got into a narrow minded rut, someone very urbane, articulate and highly inteligent would spot it and point it out.
 
I rather just sit back and enjoy it than analyse it to death.

COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE WIZARDS...…..:)
 



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