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cooperblade said:
Question to those of you who seem very upset about this deal. Do you honestly think that the board of SUFC would pay out millions and millions of pounds to a catering company if they didn't feel very certain that they were going to make a profit on the deal? Do you really think we've scraped together £30m (or however much it is) and said 'let's hand this over for some pies' without any return for the club?

We'll pay them to provide the services and we'll expect to make a profit on the deal from what they sell at the ground. I'm staggered that people think the board of SUFC are so stupid (I know they appointed Robson but still...) that they would just spunk millions and millions away on a catering deal.
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You have asnwered your own question but forgot to include our Turry in the answer.
 

what it does show is how much we must already be paying for these services. you outsource to reduce costs so it means the cost of our catering services across all our 'platforms' is in excess of £3m a year. what we don't know is what the revenue is from them. however, net, net the board obviously believe our bottom line will be improved by outsourcing these services.
 
GRUMPY BLADE said:
You have asnwered your own question but forgot to include our Turry in the answer.
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Turry is an interesting one. I thought he'd officially left his role but he was at the conference I mentioned earlier in the thread last month and was down on the list of delegates as 'Sheffield United chairman'.

Has he gone or not?
 
NN6 said:
what it does show is how much we must already be paying for these services. you outsource to reduce costs so it means the cost of our catering services across all our 'platforms' is in excess of £3m a year. what we don't know is what the revenue is from them. however, net, net the board obviously believe our bottom line will be improved by outsourcing these services.
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I agree in theroy but if I couldn't ever buy another pint or pie at The Lane I wouldn't give a fuck about it.

Not having 11 'Blades' on the pitch is my concern at this moment in time and it's what's on the pitch that I go to The Lane for not a fucking pie.

£3M to sell pies? Jesus Christ.
 
We as fans are looking for direction from the club, some light at the end of the tunnel.

This is just some twat with a torch bringing us more shit to devour.
 
To all those crying about things needing sorting out on the pitch before in the ground; should we simply ignore the rest of a multi million pound matchday operation until we've addressed the shit we watch play?

I cannot for the life of me understand the tantrums that people are throwing on here. Are you all experts in hospitality? Do you all know the ins and outs of how this deal has been put together? Have you checked the accounts to see how much grub and drink costed us over the past 10 years?

Christ almighty grow up and stop acting like 5 year olds.
 
Oh, and bad news. Sid, who usually cleans the railings on the Kop steps, has had his wage frozen until 2012. I know we shouldn't be worrying about these things while we're playing so poorly, but just thought you all needed to be informed.
 
Annnnnddd, flounce.


A deal has been announced. Some people are in favour of it, some people are not. End of.
 
raul said:
Annnnnddd, flounce.

A deal has been announced. Some people are in favour of it, some people are not. End of.
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Christ, you've forgotten my past flounces if you you think that's a flounce.

I'm not in favour or not in favour of it. I think it's particularly insignificant to be perfectly honest.

I'm simply not in favour of people not being in favour of it...
 
Of course you're not.......:hug:

I suspect the key issue is the amount being paid which doesn't look so insignificant to the untrained eye.

Timing is also an issue. Coops has nailed it because most people are in default moan mode because of the season. Had they announced this deal after a promotion party it would have been lauded at spectacularly brilliant. Probably by you.:D This is not to say the board shouldn't do deals because we can't pass water, but we will be able to sell you a bottle for £3 now.

Good point about doing research btw, earlier on in the thread there's some bloke calling it a good deal and then admittng he's no idea if it's a good deal or not.:thumbup:

Hugs, as ever. raul x

P.S - Come back, we miss flouncage.
 
Agreed about the timing.

What was the last major news announced by the club and when?

We've had nothing that gives us hope for weeks then this!
 
But like I say, we cannot simply ignore all other parts of the operation simply because we have no good news for the pitch.

Compass will have put the news out (look at the spelling mistakes in the press release in addition to the use of dollars). It's not something we could have avoided sharing.

I'm as unhappy as the next person, but I don't understand the worth in getting flustered about something as small as the catering... especially when those doing so are well versed in match day hospitality nor our accounts from the last decade.
 
Compass Catering used to do the school dinners at my kids' school. They lost the contract 'cos they were shit.
 
'They lost the contract 'cos they were shit.'

At football?
They’ll fit in nicely then.
 

Houso said:
To all those crying about things needing sorting out on the pitch before in the ground; should we simply ignore the rest of a multi million pound matchday operation until we've addressed the shit we watch play?

I cannot for the life of me understand the tantrums that people are throwing on here. Are you all experts in hospitality? Do you all know the ins and outs of how this deal has been put together? Have you checked the accounts to see how much grub and drink costed us over the past 10 years?

Christ almighty grow up and stop acting like 5 year olds.
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Micalijo will be along soon, it'll get worse before it gets better
 
Posted by Mick Rooker on Bladesmad


The report on Sports Pro Media concerning the deal with Compass is inaccurate.



As has been reported correctly elsewhere Sheffield United will, in fact, receive royalties from the 10-year deal which will see Compass operate the match day catering and hospitality through the club's 16 retail outlets, 31 corporate boxes and three suites.




Sounds oreyt but ... do we or them pay the 50 million dollars ?.
 
NN6 said:
what it does show is how much we must already be paying for these services. you outsource to reduce costs so it means the cost of our catering services across all our 'platforms' is in excess of £3m a year. what we don't know is what the revenue is from them. however, net, net the board obviously believe our bottom line will be improved by outsourcing these services.
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As opposed to just over a year ago when all catering was in-house after extracting itself from costly long term outsoucing contracts (St Kev's own words) in the previous 10 years. Outsourcing catering in my experience as a customer is doomed to failure as the outsourcing company only has one place to increase its margin's once it's sacked everyone and that is to increase prices/decrease quality which only creates an ever decreasing downward spiral.
Given the total lack of anything being announced form the football side an explanation of how spending 37million over ten years makes/saves us money would be very helpful. Something on the lines of every pie sold means we can afford a new shoe lace of a player's boots and 2 sos rolls bought by two supportes from now until the end of the season will pay-off Blackie. (I should patent the last one before Compass get any ideas ;))
 
Never in a month of Sundays will our posting make a difference. Forums are just a sounding board for fans.

What happens on the pitch should be priority No 1.

I just don't feel that it is at this moment in time and it's what's on the pitch that I shelled out my money to see and all I care about as a fan.
 
'The report on Sports Pro Media concerning the deal with Compass is inaccurate.'

So were right to get our knickers in a twist then?
 
GRUMPY BLADE said:
'The report on Sports Pro Media concerning the deal with Compass is inaccurate.'

So were right to get our knickers in a twist then?
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Don't know Grumpy ??????????? , its confused me ... mind you thats not hard :)


Who pays the 50 million dollars ?
 
Might only be $5M? typo error in report?

Normal practice is for the contract caterer to pay for the contract then they milk the profits off the contract leaving the Client with a fixed income for handing over the facilites.
 
So Turry has bought £30m-worth of pies. Is anyone actually surprised by this??!
 
Chingo said:
Sounds oreyt but ... do we or them pay the 50 million dollars ?.
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We pay it.


I think this will turn out to be a good deal for the club long term with extra revenue being generated through a industry established partner advertising and bringing people in to use our much maligned facilities. We have built the hotel and conferencing facilities why not now get the most from them?

If you add up all the staffing costs, stock and fixed costs relating to the provision of these facilities do you really think we bring them in for much under the £3 Million a season which has been agreed?
Last season it cost £2.5 million to run, so we're going to pay £500,000 to increase our exposure and get more people into these expensive facilities which we have already built.

Some sceptics may say its throwing good money after bad, but really £0.5 Million sounds like a reasonable sum to increase our target area.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
We pay it.


I think this will turn out to be a good deal for the club long term with extra revenue being generated through a industry established partner advertising and bringing people in to use our much maligned facilities. We have built the hotel and conferencing facilities why not now get the most from them?

If you add up all the staffing costs, stock and fixed costs relating to the provision of these facilities do you really think we bring them in for much under the £3 Million a season which has been agreed?
Last season it cost £2.5 million to run, so we're going to pay £500,000 to increase our exposure and get more people into these expensive facilities which we have already built.

Some sceptics may say its throwing good money after bad, but really £0.5 Million sounds like a reasonable sum to increase our target area.
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They're caterers not conference organisers so who are they are going to get use conference facilities who in turn will use their catering.
http://www.compass-group.co.uk/
 
Foxy said:
I'd imagine it's more just an "option available" and marketed extensively to you. They do away with cash sales, they do away with custom, they aren't gonna do that.

It's been vaguely mentioned here and there for the last few months, but nothing solid. I'd imagine its just a case of us getting kickbacks/benefits from the card company whilst also increasing the focused marketing and customer tracking facilities.
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Reading trialled something which I assume would be similar but it got binned.
 

QUOTE=cooperblade;237727]Question to those of you who seem very upset about this deal. Do you honestly think that the board of SUFC would pay out millions and millions of pounds to a catering company if they didn't feel very certain that they were going to make a profit on the deal? Do you really think we've scraped together £30m (or however much it is) and said 'let's hand this over for some pies' without any return for the club?

We'll pay them to provide the services and we'll expect to make a profit on the deal from what they sell at the ground. I'm staggered that people think the board of SUFC are so stupid (I know they appointed Robson but still...) that they would just spunk millions and millions away on a catering deal.[/QUOTE]

We give them £3,000,000
There are 23 matches guaranteed
£3,000,000 divided by 23 equals £130,434 - our costs per match

I known there will be income other then on match days but how many pies and pints would we have to sell to cover our costs.
Average attendance next season say 20,000 - we all have to spend at least £6.52 to get that figure but that would only be true if all the £6.52 came to us which is doesn't.

What would the royalty be? 10%? Say 25% to be very generous.

Does this mean that to break even we each have to spend £26 inside the ground per match?

If the royalty was 10% we have to spend even more per match - £65.20… I think!

I know that's not the true picture but £3million quid per season is a hell of a lot of investment - I'm sure that the board will have good financial reasons for doing what they are doing and I can only think that Compass will bring in a great deal of non Blades-related business (conferences, events etc)

Hope so
 
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