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Read the report and think it's harsh
We came to win and won it

Wasn't pretty but was pretty efficient
All Fods had to do was palm over one Carroll header straight at him

We outlasted them out shot them and not one yellow card
Clean sheet so clean it won't need ironing

1-0 wins are underrated. Liverpool and man utd grew to greatness on them
Great pass from Bogle to mcb for the goal worthy of another full point

Good alternative viewpoint.
We do seem really effective at squeezing out boring but efficient 1-0 wins.

When we try to play expansive attacking football, like at home to Boro
It's often a big risk, as games turn into entertaining basketball matches where our slow defence are so open/vulnerable to swift counter attacks.

Does make me wonder though if Hecky's tactics going forward might be to keep thinks tight and aim for constant 1-0 wins.
If we were mid table there would be no pressure and we'd very likely see games like the 3-0 Blackburn win and the 4-0 Reading win.

Note: I listened to the Talksport 2 commentary last night, in some ways it's better when the commentators are neutral.
They were both quite complementary about us...saying it was "a very good away display by Sheffield United".
They mentioned that Reading have a great home record but never seriously threatened us at any time
and both agreed that Sheff United were the better team and quite comfortable on the night.
 
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I haven’t seen any of the game, but I did think of you last night when Sky were praising the quality and input of Berge !!

I was listening to the commentators on Talksport 2 and they were also bigging up Berge saying he's one of the best players in the Championship.
They said they are surprised he hasn't already been sold because he shouldn't be playing at Championship level as he's too good.

Last week on the Sunderland forum they had a thread about who the best player was in the Championship.
A few Sunderland fans suggested N'Diaye or Sarr at Watford but a few also suggested that Sander Berge was the best player in the Championship.

I think, saying Berge is a great player is a lazy cliche which all commentators seems to say when they've not even seen much of us.
It just shows if you keep repeating something then it becomes fact.
 
Thought Berge was the pick of the midfielders last night. Probably a bit too safe still but don't remember him conceding possession at all and kept us ticking over when Norwood had a bit of an off night for me.

Egan, JLT (again), Illi and McB the better performers on the night when all that mattered was the result. Not gonna pick the bones off that one, just happy with the three points.

Good to see McAtee get a start, think he gives us another dynamic when sides try to double/triple up on Ndiaye.

Win those home games, pick up another win or two away and we're home and dry.
 
Can't disagree with a lot of that Pomps last night I almost replied to a thread saying what's happened to Bogle I'd give him a 5 if only for the through ball for the build up to the goal.

This one falls into the a wins a win category we will take it ... UTB
we won tthere Boro lost , but not many compare like with like they beat them 5-0 at home so look good last week but we beat them 4-0 a while ago so that s the proper comparison
 
Note: I listened to the Talksport 2 commentary last night, in some ways it's better when the commentators are neutral.
They were both quite complementary about us...saying it was "a very good away display by Sheffield United".
They mentioned that Reading have a great home record but never seriously threatened us at any time
and both agreed that Sheff United were the better team and quite comfortable on the night.
its n only m over expecting blades fans that want us to play like Argentina at their best every minute of every 90 minutes
no team has all the game and away teams approach games differently

some of our fans want us 3-0 up after 10 minutes and if not we were shit
 
I haven’t seen any of the game, but I did think of you last night when Sky were praising the quality and input of Berge !!

He was admittedly 'better' than he has been of late but simply a vehicle to ship the ball around the centre third of the park.

I just want him to power past opposition players and put a shot in that the keeper has to get airborne about. He actually headed the ball yesterday albeit when no one was around him. You'd hardly see him mix it up with Andy Carroll for an aerial ball would you?

pommpey
 
some of our fans want us 3-0 up after 10 minutes and if not we were shit

Thing is, in many games we have had the chances to be 3-0 up and spooned them or overplayed it.

One of these days we're gonna sign a player who can lamp it from thirty yards and the keeper never gets near it

pommpey
 
i think 4 for norwood is being kind hes too slow and constantly passed the ball to a reading player him fleck and bash have all had their day with us imo and berge once again wasnt much better
 
Didn’t see it, listened to radio commentary. Their first home defeat since the World Cup break. l’m happy with scruffy wins. Long may they continue. However, it’s a good job we kept a clean sheet because with those substitutions I couldn’t visualise how we would have won by getting a second should they have equalised.
 
Yet another 'dirty win' against a team resoundingly bummed up the bum last time out by our nearest promotion rivals. The game tonight made both teams look very much like they were within one place of each other down the bottom of the league than where they actually are. All over the pitch United are failing to fire on all cylinders and dominate weaker teams like Reading. I'm not saying we should be whupping them 4 or 5-0 at the Madjeski (although really, it would restore some confidence in fans that we will go up in the autos) but we should be at least more than a solitary goal from nowhere up and playing out the final minutes high up in their half with them looking beaten rather than defending and 'thank fuck'ing the final whistle. Many on shoutbox and elsewhere noted we were 'well on top' in the first half hour but that masks the reality that although we seemed to be, we actually created fucking nowt. We're great at 'possession football' in phases. It's almost as if the brief is to keep the ball in the centre third and don't dare to attack their goal. It's indicative of a few things. One is that this team is stuffed still with legacy players who don't know anything different than Wilderball. The second is that no one bar Basham and NDaiye knows how to make use of the space in front of them. Everything has to be passed back and forth like some fucking extended training drill. Unless its at the feet of NDaiye it aint gonna trouble their defence. Crossing and through balls, cracks from distance and just 'well worked goals' are out of the question. We seem scared to gamble and instead pass it endlessly this way and that boring the arse of everyone. Reading were abject tonight and you could see exactly how Boro destroyed them at the Riverside on Satdi. They went at their weaknesses. Tonight they played 5-2-3 at one stage and still our midfield looked fucking outnumbered. Great to still maintain seven points but coming up we have Luton at the Lane whereas Boro visit a shambolic Swansea. Put in a performance like we did tonight (and let's hope NDaiye is okay) and that seven points once again gets squeaky-bum again. Hecky needs to get us consistently at oppositions and trying efforts and gambling a bit. The passing and positionals tonight also need tightening. The back three tonight, although coping, were seriously under the cosh. And for fuck's sake, where is Jebbison and Doyle?

Foderingham 6/10: Decent tip over from Carroll. Some questionable distribution in the first half
Bogle 4/10: Shambolic and off-key performance from him tonight. very Kozluk-like with his crossing too
Basham 6/10: Blood (literally) and guts from him but he's showing his limitations at times. Still able to carry the ball forward into space, which makes a fucking change
Egan 6/10: Bullied and battered by Carroll for much of the game which is par for the course for Egan. He's a decent centre back and gets his head in but aerially he's powderpuff against big strong centre forwards
JLT 6.5/10: Another committed if spoon-footed game for Jacky boy. No long throws either?
Lowe 5/10: Timid. That word just about sums him up.
Berge 4/10: Marginally better game in a deeper role. Strolled around with the ball and looked capable, but wasn't.
Norwood 4/10: Poor game and reversion for him against a numerically inferior midfield where you'd imagine him to be bossing the game and winning it for us.
McAtee 3/10: Thought he was outmuscled and weak tonight. He epitomised where tonight's game, although won on goals, was lost on the pitch.
NDaiye 7/10: Our only outlet and our only ball winner. Well worked for and taken goal. Hope the flying fuck his hip injury isn't bad because he is the only way we get promoted now if Hecky doesn't switch on and start getting us engaged to win the game from start to finish
McBurnie 6.5/10: Worked very hard to get and remain with the attack but tended to shithouse a bit. Well worked for the setup for NDaiye's goal

Baldock 5/10: Added marginally more than Bogle down on the right
Sharp 5/10: Usual hustle and bustle and dug in to set Reading back, but he's running out of steam as we run out of options
Fleck 4/10: Didn't see what he brought to the outfield play or much of him in the game either. Pointless and indeed wrong substitution

We still have so much to do now and indeed over the next six months to justify going up. Beating Reading tonight was good, but it was wholly unconvincing that without NDaiye we are rudderless and beatable. We have far too many player with us still with their heads in Division One and not moved on or out when the right time - on relegation - was apparent and when we could have and should have changed. The trouble is that if we go up we WILL have to change or we will be smashed week in, week out. We will have to get shut of a good 40-50% of the current squad and buy big to replace them and change entirely the way we play - Wilderball without any of the good bits. It's heartening we are still in the chase but we remain fragile and fraught and the confidence is brittle. Maybe a dropping of Berge for once and Doyle/Norwood at R/LDM with McB and Jebbo as frontmen and NDaiye as No 10 could be better. Whatever happens, we are going to the fucking wire with this. Strap yourselves in.

pommpey
Hecky’s subs were pragmatic and safe, and aimed at protecting the lead.
Sharp or Jebbo for Ndiaye? Jebbo has the pace, but loses possession too easily. Sharp kept the ball well and won some good free kicks, so for me Billy was correct.
Fleck or Doyle for McAtee? Again Hecky went for experience with Fleck, but he was really poor. Doyle would have been a better option.
Ultimately though Hecky was proved right, as we got the points.
 
I was glad we won of course. It was boring to watch as usual and apart from the goal and Billy’s late shot we didn’t look like scoring. Berge is a waste of time and seems to make little effort. If we get promoted we will be lucky to get ten points next year with this team. Only Ndiaye is PL standard. I live in hope that we can buy new players for next season. 70 years of watching United tells me not to hold my breath. Pompey said it as it was . A good win but a crap watch. UTB
 
Yes the win is crucial but ...
We are like one of those modern cars that's run by a computer chip - when the chip puts the engine into "limp-mode" , just enough power to coast downhill and freewheel on the flat , but the first gradient and we're spluttering.
We think & move so slowly , our attacks are in front of opponents defenders , hardly ever in behind them (whether by wingplay or throughballs).
I have to lay most of the responsibility on midfield and Hecky's inability to recognise where the defects are.
It's only a few days since Doyle gave a masterclass against PL opposition in the Norwood role and since then , he can't get a game.
Despite Norwood being under par tonight.
And then Hecky chooses Fleck to come on ???
I thought McCall was a great midfielder for us , so I can't understand why he thinks the way ours performs is ok.
The future cannot be Fleck.
The future has to be younger men.
And Berge would never get in my team but I accept the mistaken investment in him means he will play.
Instead of watching our limping misfiring midfield , I'd like to see changes but Hecky will never be brave enough.
Why not have one striker + play Ndiaye & Berge in behind.
Or even keep 2 strikers but put Ndiaye in midfield with Norwood & Doyle behind him.
Just for once , don't start Berge and see how it goes.
Put some youth & pace & bite & big hearts into midfield.
Try it Hecky , you have 5 subs , you can always change it during the game in the unlikely event that it's worse than our current midfield.
unchanged Satdi then? Hecky to Mcall after the game
 
Slightly harsh on Bogle for me, yes he did his usual wandering and not tracking back, leaving some holes but he was very involved in the goal and he did find himself in a lot of space and was a useful outlet…I get the feeling him and Norwood don’t get on off the pitch. Constantly berating eachother for misplaced passes.
Bogle does it to everyone, he was terrible for it at Millwall, like a council Bruno Fernandez. Fair enough if your doing well yourself but he aint, I think the Swansea game went his head a bit.
 

There is no doubt in my mind that the EFL & the media would prefer Boro get promoted - we have brought this negative undercurrent upon ourselves with various aspects of the embargo & takeover & quotes against refs from Hecky & Sharp - but it's definitely another headwind we have to battle.
Some good ideas coming out on the back of a good win against a team who know they could get dragged into a relegation battle.
Stands out a mile that We lack lots in midfield ,teams know this it's nothing new ( been like it for years).
Hecki obviously knows this( shouldn't be in the job if he didnt) and trying to dig out wins with these limitations.
Yes we have lost a few recently and confidence is down due to that. We are still in pole position and yes Pommpay a battle now to do it.
Less of the critism wouldn't go amiss as the squad is there can't add to it thank the prince for that!.
Young ine xperienced players arnt the answer
We have experienced players who have been here before ! Let's back em ! not get on there backs.!!
 
Bogle does it to everyone, he was terrible for it at Millwall, like a council Bruno Fernandez. Fair enough if your doing well yourself but he aint, I think the Swansea game went his head a bit.
He's gone from being a decent attacking RWB to someone who is just very wasteful with the ball the majority of the time.

Cracking ball for the goal when he actually passed it, but the number of times he fucks about with it and has 14 touches too many is getting on my tits.
 
I was listening to the commentators on Talksport 2 and they were also bigging up Berge saying he's one of the best players in the Championship.
They said they are surprised he hasn't already been sold because he shouldn't be playing at Championship level as he's too good.

Last week on the Sunderland forum they had a thread about who the best player was in the Championship.
A few Sunderland fans suggested N'Diaye or Sarr at Watford but a few also suggested that Sander Berge was the best player in the Championship.

I think, saying Berge is a great player is a lazy cliche which all commentators seems to say when they've not even seen much of us.
It just shows if you keep repeating something then it becomes fact.
I'm gonna keep repeating.." I will win the lottery on Saturday..."
 
McBurnie was MOTM

Robinson also good. Berge better than usual

Baldock should come back into the team now

Jebbison should have come on instead of Old Bill. Fuck knows what's up with Doyle
Old Bill as you say is ideal for the last ten minutes , he can hold the ball up which Jebbo can’t and the free kick he buys are invaluable
 
Pommpey can't argue with any of that. For me our biggest weakness is a lack of legs in midfield. We need a box to boxer who can run with the ball and draw defenders out and create a bit of space for the front teo.

Norwood and Berge are pedestrian and play far too many sideways and backwards balls. The only way this formation works properly is when the wingbacks are performing and Bogle and Lowe haven't performed for weeks.

I'd try Jebbo and McB up front to add some pace and move Ndiaye into the number 10 role. I'd drop Beege to the bench and bring Doyle in to see if he can add some athleticism to the midfield. I also think Egan may need a rest and would play Robbo, Clark and Anel as the back three on Saturday.
can't see him dropping egan but wonder if it's time for clark. love robinson to bits and he's done well but he can be a hothead, nearly gave a pen away last night. clark is a calmer presence and did well before the latest injury. anyway that's a good problem to have.
 
JLT 6.5/10: Another committed if spoon-footed game for Jacky boy. No long throws either?

No signature crunching sliding tackle either. I think he is probably our most consistant defender though.
Thanks for the report.
 
I agree Pommpey the performance was not good however we managed to get 3 points that is all that matters in my opinion.
Listening on Radio Sheffield, Norwood has the ball in 2 seconds he gave it away. He should be dropped to the bench against Luton on Saturday at The Lane.
Still need a lot more from Berge. Anel Ahmedhodzic is back from suspension. so he should be back to replace Basham. Heckys touchline ban is over.
27 points are needed for auto promotion. A win and a better performance. we don,t have to worry about Boro or anyone else as long as we pick up points.
 
He was admittedly 'better' than he has been of late but simply a vehicle to ship the ball around the centre third of the park.

I just want him to power past opposition players and put a shot in that the keeper has to get airborne about. He actually headed the ball yesterday albeit when no one was around him. You'd hardly see him mix it up with Andy Carroll for an aerial ball would you?

pommpey
Neither would I !!
I still find him so frustrating as clearly he has talent and a turn of power, but rarely uses them.
Being optimistic I expect to see him turn it on against Luton, but experience tells me I may well be disappointed (again) !
 
This team finds a way to win.The successful teams do.
It’s a results game, and especially at this time of year, with all to play for.
Take the 3 points get on the bus, and on to the next game.
Style doesn’t matter at this stage, leave that to the ice skating judges.
Much rather win like that and go up, than put on the style and miss out.This may be the 3 points that secures second place.
keep doing what you’re doing Blades, it’s worked for us, so far, and got us to 7 clear.`It would be idiotic to change a winning formula at this stage of the season.
 
I'm Just glad the game in hand is finally out of the way and we got three points out of it.
It seemed to have been hanging over our heads forever and giving a false impression on where we stood.
Now the team know exactly where they stand.....
 
I agree Pommpey the performance was not good however we managed to get 3 points that is all that matters in my opinion.
Listening on Radio Sheffield, Norwood has the ball in 2 seconds he gave it away. He should be dropped to the bench against Luton on Saturday at The Lane.
Still need a lot more from Berge. Anel Ahmedhodzic is back from suspension. so he should be back to replace Basham. Heckys touchline ban is over.
27 points are needed for auto promotion. A win and a better performance. we don,t have to worry about Boro or anyone else as long as we pick up points.
fully agree on norwood hes showing signs that he needs a break put tommy doyle in against luton still dont like the way norwood plays deep next to the 3 centre backs he needs to be further up the pitch let the centre backs play it out from the back
 

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