My take ...

[pommpey]

There ain't arf some bullshite barbs being thrown at some of our players from so-called fans. Sander Berge is now the new target, despite being significantly involved in setting up the killer goal. Also - just in case our resident experts missed it - Jebbison stopped their No 6 cruising away with the ball (looking comfortable about to set Coventry off on another attack) and Sander was able to pick it up from there. Without Jebbo's sharp reaction and intervention we wouldn't have got that crucial goal. Try to see the whole effing picture guys!!!

What, you mean the three or four times Berge was dispossessed in the midfield? He also telegraphed two passes, straight to their players feet. Elsewhere he was visibly outjumped in aerial contests, and seemed very much below the pace of the game in the middle of the park where even Norwood (no cheetah himself) looked brighter, more in the tackle and more up for it than he did. He was also stood in-line with Gyorkeres for his flicked header on goal, and at well over six foot (so taller than say, Egan) you'd imagine he'd at least get a challenge in if not to destabilise their forward. Finally there were at least three more occasions where the ball was moved out of defence on the break and Berge failed to show in space to receive. I could understand it if he didn't cost the club an arm and a leg. But he did. He's also spent a fucking long time at Bramall Lane on the recovery table with mere fleeting glimpses of his obvious ability. And that's what frustrates the fuck out of us 'so-called fans', y'know, the ones who don't accept any old shite and still think that Mousset wasn't such a bad player after all.

And FYI, the person who set up the 'killer goal' was Lowe. His cost was meagre compared to Berge and his absence critically missed, especially since RND went lame. And when he came back us 'so-called fans' saw exactly what we'd missed in that the kid does his job, and does it well.

So as far as 'seeing the whole picture', please take your comments and roll them up into a sausage shape, lie on your side, lift your upper leg up and outward, moisten said package with a liddle-biddy spit, hold your breath and slide the fuckers up your chim-chimenny. Highlighting one line of dialogue in one scene in one act of one play doth not maketh Shakespeare. For twenty odd million, us 'so-called fans' demand Henry the fucking Fifth parts One and Two with a bonus CD and outtakes.

pommpey

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

Comedy Gold again Pomps - lovely to see you in full flow again. Keep it up!

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

And FYI, the person who set up the 'killer goal' was Lowe. His cost was meagre compared to Berge and his absence critically missed, especially since RND went lame. And when he came back us 'so-called fans' saw exactly what we'd missed in that the kid does his job, and does it well.

You obviously missed the point I was making, which I can understand if you're sat at your laptop rather than being in the stand at BDTBL Pomps. If you didn't see the crucial contributions of Jebbo and Sander in the creation of that 3rd goal then I'm certainly not going to waste time at this keyboard trying to enlighten you. I love the comedy though - you certainly have a talent for that.

 

[pommpey]

You obviously missed the point I was making, which I can understand if you're sat at your laptop rather than being in the stand at BDTBL Pomps. If you didn't see the crucial contributions of Jebbo and Sander in the creation of that 3rd goal then I'm certainly not going to waste time at this keyboard trying to enlighten you. I love the comedy though - you certainly have a talent for that.

Again (sigh) what the fuck did you see sat in 'the stand' on a 'once-through' experience that I didn't see watching four cameras from two high angle and two pitchside viewpoints that trumps your judgement? Sure, Berge found it incumbent to go round their wingback and put in a cross. It whizzed across the box and was collected by Lowe at the far side who spotted Doyle coming short, found him with a well-placed pass whereby he was able to first-time it past their keeper.

What do you reckon about Berge's sitter in the Coventry game? What about the fucking one against Wigan?

My point is this: Berge's net worth - his given reputation, people like you bigging him up and his appearances and contribution over the past two years against his fee for the club (ranged exactly against those properties) is for me still in the minus figures. With a fat, useless waster like Mousset at least his mitigation is centred on his few shinned and in-off goals in our first PL season. But Berge gets a long term injury and spend the best part of a season on the treatment table over the end of one and the start of two seasons and continues to put in performances which are smattered with frustrating inconsistency and laconic output. Like many players, the 'non-so-called fans' hang preciously on one or two bits he does and obviate the fucking pissy ones. Consistency is the hallmarks of winners BILH, and Sander Berge is still showing disappointing levels of failure to show his real worth. We expect and demand better. We have been patient with him and now he needs to start showing us what the fuck he can do.

Hence 3/10.

pommpey

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

Hence 3/10.

Brilliant...

 

[Varkanoid]

and

 

[Varkanoid]

 

[Sheffsteel]

Hence 3/10.

pommpey

The really frustrating thing with Berge is that you can sense there's a player in there.
Maybe he's just not suitable for English football and prefers slower weaker leagues, like in Belgium.

I took a relative from London to the Coventry match and he's an Arsenal fan. He said "Who's that big guy in midfield"
Told him "Sander Berge". He replied "Ah yes I've heard of him but I thought he was a defensive midfielder"

Told him he came to us as a defensive midfielder but always looked really poor in that position because he can't tackle and lacks physicality.
So we tried him playing more advanced and he's better in that role but is very inconsistent, plays really well for 30 minutes then disappears for the rest of the game.

The frustrating thing is you can imagine Berge going to another club and being a really good player there.

However if we're being honest for the money we've paid, he's been a disappointing signing so far,
Always looks a bit unfit and physically weak as though the English game is too fast and too physical for him.
The glimmer of hope is that he does regular show glimpses of PL quality that suggests he could yet turn around his fortunes at our club.

 

[pommpey]

The glimmer of hope is that he does regular show glimpses of PL quality that suggests he could yet turn around his fortunes at our club.

I agree, totally. In his defence, when on the ball he can be difficult to dispossess (most of the time ... although people like me remember Pirlo and Gascoigne for whom nicking the ball of was something of an impossibility) and sometimes he'll drop his shoulder and actually attack, a rarity in our game. But it's the blank bits which grip my stools. We'll spend ten, fifteen minutes scrapping it out in midfield with the ball changing hands twenty or so times, progression up and back the pitch and during that time, it's easy to suddenly thing 'fuck, I forgot Berge was fucking playing'. We used to do that with Fleck and Norwood ... but they cost us fuck all compared to him, and in Norwood's case, he's changed his game around and stayed very much uninjured. Sure, he's a bit lightweight in the aerial challenge and doesn't display world beating qualities, but he's smelling the upland fresh air again and is a welcome team selection. Berge? When you see him on the team sheet it's not so much 'great' but 'what game will we get from him?' and really, the net effect of him being in the team has been very debateable.

pommpey