Miller - cruciate injury

[LoughboroBlade]

According to DW - out for the season, 7-9 months. Huge loss in my opinion - and desperately unlucky for the lad too.

Collins has a triple fracture to his cheekbone - out for 4-8 weeks.

A huge test for the squad this.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiit

 

[raul]

Feeling uncomfortably Judas-esque, but recognising where priorities lie, the loan spells of Ryan McGivern and Leigh Griffiths are up at Hibs. They tick both boxes.

 

[shreds1975]

I'd probably prioritise a winger and move Blackman back inside. Left back/Centre Back cover could be LJF, although it could be risky if he was to break down again on his comeback. I think a centre back is also a priority.

One small positive. The board cannot think about cashing in on Harry now, surely? Can they?

 

[boo radley]

If we can cope with this and get promoted Miller is a fantastic finisher and in the league above he could be big star.
All the more reason to ask for a higher price for Maguire. Collins seems to have no luck.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Our in-form goalscorer out for the season, and our key man at the back out for weeks. All we need now is for K-Mac to get injured and our keeper to drop the odd clanger and it'll be like last season.

The important thing in my mind is for DW not to switch Blackman back up front, certainly not until we get a decent winger in to allow that to happen. If we do get Murphy, we potentially have options to interchange both of them.

Collins has in my opinion been taken somewhat for granted this season. I've seen plenty of comments suggesting he's not been as good (several in the immediate aftermath of his new deal) but I can't say I've seen that at all. Maguire continues to improve, but he still makes the occasional error and I think Collins has been helpful in organising the defence as a unit. Hill is a reasonable back-up and has done ok in the occasional stint. I'm not convinced he's reliable enough for an 8-week stint. Positionally, he's sound, but there were several occasions at Orient where his hesitancy to attack the ball resulted in chances. We will be playing teams a lot better than Orient in the next 8 weeks.

 

[Northyorksblade]

And for any Scunny lurkers who were singing 'Same old Sheffield always cheating' and 'Let him die etc' both directed at Miller when he went down injured. Oh yes he was! (Injured, that is )

 

[SwissBlade]

Bloody hell! That's two massive blows. It looked to me that miller was really developing and to have him alongside kitson they could've formed a decent partnership. Could've been this seasons ched type player. We need to bring in a pacey finisher on loan.

Collins has been a rock, thought he's been more steady than Harry at times.

 

[beightonblade]

HEY ........ no hiding place for our leader now, the JTW will tell us all we need to know about him.

 

[true99blade]

Damn, it looks like we have no luck at all even when we win against Scunthorpe, to be honest I would've taken a draw knowing Miller and Collins didn't get injured!

 

[JohnDenver]

What a 'mare. And if we're that close to the FFP wire we won't be able to adequately cover as well as mend the existing holes in the squad.

 

[axel smeets]

Go over the FFP limit, get into the championship and then don't worry about it. The worst we would get is a three week transfer embargo. We cannot afford another season in this division.

 

[Pedro Verde]

Hopefully this will spur us on to sign Murphy, I think Hill is an Ok replacement for Collins.
If we cant sign Murphy maybe De Girilamo will be given a chance and really it gives Cofie a chance to step up and make a claim for the shirt, as long as we dont play Kitson and Creswell together

 

[Trigger Blade]

Go over the FFP limit, get into the championship and then don't worry about it. The worst we would get is a three week transfer embargo. We cannot afford another season in this division.

How does the FFP work with a player who is injured long-term? Wouldn't his wages be ignored for %age caclulation purposes? That would seem logical, otherwise a team with the sort of bad luck we're having, could rack up a few long-term injuries and no chance of replacing then.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

I'd probably prioritise a winger and move Blackman back inside. Left back/Centre Back cover could be LJF, although it could be risky if he was to break down again on his comeback. I think a centre back is also a priority.

One small positive. The board cannot think about cashing in on Harry now, surely? Can they?

I think it makes that scenario much more likely now, Shredders

 

[Pinchy]

This is, of course, really bad news. Let's hope both lads make full and speedy recoveries. Shaun Miller must feel devastated. His career was right back on track and he was on course for plenty of goals in the second half of the season. Hope you are fit and ready for the Championship, Shaun.

Neill Collins has had a hard time of it in the last year. He's a tough Scot and he'll doubtless be back sooner rather than later. I wish him well.

We need to press ahead on the Murphy deal, giving us the option of moving Blackman inside. A centre-back on loan is imperative.

 

[Houso]

As everyone, absolutely gutted for Miller in particular.

This is now the time for Joe Ironside to prove he can make the step up. I get the impression that Danny rates him so let's see if he fill the hole left by Shaun on Saturday.

 

[metalblade]

How does the FFP work with a player who is injured long-term? Wouldn't his wages be ignored for %age caclulation purposes? That would seem logical, otherwise a team with the sort of bad luck we're having, could rack up a few long-term injuries and no chance of replacing then.

The FFP is just an excuse to be used for a property speculator not to put short arms in deep pockets, makes me laugh my bollocks off that Blades fans fall for the same old lines over and over. Anyone who actually believes the FFP works against the big club have a word with yoursens, how do such as Crawley ans Stevenage go on with gates usually less than 5000 ??? We are the big fish in this pond (though Coventry and Pompey might say otherwise) and should be most able to deal with FFP
Back to the point ............ Yes it would seem logical that a team with long term injuries should be allowed some leeway to replace those players. It seems stupid to me that a team picking up say 3 long term injuries in an already small squad could have a seasons hard work wrecked due to FFP rules.

 

[axel smeets]

How does the FFP work with a player who is injured long-term? Wouldn't his wages be ignored for %age caclulation purposes? That would seem logical, otherwise a team with the sort of bad luck we're having, could rack up a few long-term injuries and no chance of replacing then.

I thought about this as well before I posted. If a long term injury is not taken into account, then all clubs at this level, not just the supposed big boys like us, have been shafted by this arrangement.

 

[Houso]

The FFP is just an excuse to be used for a property speculator not to put short arms in deep pockets, makes me laugh my bollocks off that Blades fans fall for the same old lines over and over. Anyone who actually believes the FFP works against the big club have a word with yoursens, how do such as Crawley ans Stevenage go on with gates usually less than 5000 ??? We are the big fish in this pond (though Coventry and Pompey might say otherwise) and should be most able to deal with FFP

You realise that players like Collins, Doyle and McDonald will be on pretty much the full wage bill of Crawley and Stevenage right?

 

[metalblade]

You realise that players like Collins, Doyle and McDonald will be on pretty much the full wage bill of Crawley and Stevenage right?

If so that is down to our bad management all have new contracts, McDonald aside are Collins and Doyle so irreplaceable that they are worth two thirds of Crawley or Stevenage's entire wage bill .......... no thought not.

 

[Ollessendro]

I am really disappointed to see Miller get a serious injury. I would have liked to have seen him and Kitson have a run together. This is undoubtably a big blow for us. Miller was very much in form and I reckon would have scored 10+ goals in the 2nd half of the season.

The Collins injury I am less worried about. I would sooner have him in the team, but Hill can do a job. Collins must have missed 4 or 5 games already this season and Hill slotted in well. The problem is if we get another injury suspension. I think we can cope without him for a month or so, but the sooner he is back the better. Do not get me wrong, we are much stronger with him, I just thing we can cope for a bit. I actually imagine he will be back sooner (perhaps with a daft mask or something) especially if we need him (suspension or injury to one of the other defenders).

There are still no excuses for me! All this wild talk of signing new players is just knee jerk reactions in my opinion. At the start of the season Wilson opted to re-sign Porter and bring in Blackman, Kitson and Cofie (as well as Miller) knowing he also had Cresswell and Philiskirk on the books. Are you lot seriously telling me that one of those cannot do a job? Yes it is a blow to lose Miller, but why pay Cofie and Porter etc if they cannot do a job? Put Cofie up top (alongside Kitson) against a gash Hartlepool defence that has conceded nigh on 50 goals and let's see what happens before we talk of January transfer windows or owt.

The priority for me is still a winger and CM.

 

[bartman]

This is now the time for Joe Ironside to prove he can make the step up. I get the impression that Danny rates him so let's see if he fill the hole left by Shaun on Saturday.

He is not the same type of player...he is more of a target man and is not particularly quick. Cofie will play on Saturday I reckon

 

[Trigger Blade]

Oof, Ollie in "talking sense" shocker

 

[shreds1975]

If so that is down to our bad management all have new contracts, McDonald aside are Collins and Doyle so irreplaceable that they are worth two thirds of Crawley or Stevenage's entire wage bill .......... no thought not.

Whether they are worth it or not, people like Robinson and Birch have agreed contracts over the last few years that leave us no win this situation. So do you accept it is not McCabe being toght, but a sad indictment on the state we are in?

 

[Pinchy]

There are still no excuses for me! All this wild talk...

Worry not, mate. We stopped making excuses for you a long time ago...

 

[sheffielder]

We have already played without Collins for 3 games this season and he came back on the bench. We will be fine with Hill and Maguire however behind that there is a worry.

We have enough strikers to carry on without Miller, maybe we could put our top scorer upfront and then stick in Duffy in January

 

[Bergen Blade]

As everyone, absolutely gutted for Miller in particular.

This is now the time for Joe Ironside to prove he can make the step up. I get the impression that Danny rates him so let's see if he fill the hole left by Shaun on Saturday.

I will be surprised if Ironside plays alongside another target man.

 

[Northyorksblade]

The FFP is just an excuse to be used for a property speculator not to put short arms in deep pockets, makes me laugh my bollocks off that Blades fans fall for the same old lines over and over. Anyone who actually believes the FFP works against the big club have a word with yoursens, how do such as Crawley ans Stevenage go on with gates usually less than 5000 ??? We are the big fish in this pond (though Coventry and Pompey might say otherwise) and should be most able to deal with FFP
Back to the point ............ Yes it would seem logical that a team with long term injuries should be allowed some leeway to replace those players. It seems stupid to me that a team picking up say 3 long term injuries in an already small squad could have a seasons hard work wrecked due to FFP rules.

But surely, turnover isn't just gate receipts? Possibly Crawleyand Stevenage have better sponsorship deals than us or get more from advertising revenue. Unlikely I suppose, but it's not all about attendance.

 

[shreds1975]

But surely, turnover isn't just gate receipts? Possibly Crawleyand Stevenage have better sponsorship deals than us or get more from advertising revenue. Unlikely I suppose, but it's not all about attendance.

At a time when all revenue streams are vital we appear to have transferred hotel, ground, academy, leisure clubs out of the football club into the plc. I assume it is the Football Club that is assessed for SCMP?