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I know hed left .my point was after promotion united under harris finished 13 14 and 10th .under bassett we finished 13 14 and 9 th.it couldnt be amy closer and then united finished 6th after harris left but then got relegated
Bassett was 13 9 then 14.
 
Pinchy you keep mentioning Wally Downes yet he only was with us for half a season?
Alan Harper of Wendy broke his ankle in a "closed behind doors" friendly before the start of the 1988-89 season. Wally came back to playing in reserves matches in April 1989 but the ankle was never right again and he had to retire from playing. One evening he went to Josephines and saw Alan Harper there and he then confronted him. David Hirst and Imre Varadi got involved. My mate who was the bouncer at the nightclub had to deal with the situation and told Wally to leave the club
 
There really is no need for the statistics. If your preference is for alehouse football, simply say so. It's a bizarre and irrational choice but it is your prerogative. Don't try to clothe it in the same colours as proper football, though. You will just embarrass yourself as you have already.

The great thing about pub football is that it's available at your local park every weekend. Great views and no entrance charge. Fill your boots. Personally, I expect my team and professional football in general to give me a little more aesthetic pleasure than that, but that's me,

I'll have Tony Currie, George Best, Rodney Marsh, Stan Bowles, Jimmy Greaves, Peter Osgood, Alan Hudson, Liam Brady and Archie Gemmill to name but a few. You stick with Vinny Jones, Denis Wise and Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.
I'd prefer not to get embroiled in this, or any other, argument, as I respect everyone's opinion, even if it does not accord with my own. I also have fond memories of the gifted players of the past and have been lucky enough to see them all play ( I'd also add big Frank Worthington to your list as a gifted skilful forward). However, it would be naive to overlook players of the 60s and 70s who were far more cynical than say Vinny Jones. Norman (he bites your leg) Hunter, Chopper Harris, Peter Storey, Jack Charlton, Billy Brenner, while Nobby Styles virtually kicked Eusebio out of the 66 World Cup all come to mind. Yes it was awesome watching TC and the like, but there were plenty ( I'd even hazard a guess at more) hatched men around in the 60s and 70s than there in subsequent decades.
I hope this all makes sense and I appreciate where you're coming from.
 
and picking on wally downes , pinchy is a poor attack
its not like Harris last squad didnt have its sawn off welly wearers
are you really saying you went to see the silky skills of the following
Steve Faulkner
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Steve Goulding
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England 21/01/1954

Ian Mackenzie
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Alan Ogden
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Midfielder
Ian Holmes
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Forward
Jimmy Bone
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Steve Cammack
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tell me how many cultured passes these offered
 
Pinchy is attempting to intimidate people all over the forum. He is generally obnoxious and aggressive.
How long is he going to be allowed to get away with it?

I see some are on a mission, here. Including one who, despite his claims to the contrary, clearly (as I confidently predicted) cannot help himself. I should not be surprised if this is co-ordinated.

Luckily it's as transparent as it is malicious. Nobody will be fooled.

I know a great deal about mental health problems. I deal with sufferers all the time. Not one would be offended by an obvious piece of frivolity on a message board.
 
and picking on wally downes , pinchy is a poor attack
its not like Harris last squad didnt have its sawn off welly wearers
are you really saying you went to see the silky skills of the following
Steve Faulkner
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England 18/12/1954
Steve Goulding
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England 21/01/1954

Ian Mackenzie
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England 27/09/1950
Alan Ogden
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England 15/04/1954
Midfielder
Ian Holmes
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England 08/12/1950
Forward
Jimmy Bone
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Scotland 22/09/1949
Steve Cammack
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England 20/03/1954

tell me how many cultured passes these offered

Look, you don't understand the painfully obvious distinction between a long targeted pass and a long aimless punt. You say they are one and the same and my contention otherwise is total hog wash. That tells me all I need to know about your understanding of the game of football.

You ❤ Hoof. Fine. I've said repeatedly that's your right, however bizarre the choice. Enjoy it. Rejoice in it. Just stop the football alchemy. Your touchstone is in need of repair!
 
Look, you don't understand the painfully obvious distinction between a long targeted pass and a long aimless punt. You say they are one and the same and my contention otherwise is total hog wash. That tells me all I need to know about your understanding of the game of football.

You ❤ Hoof. Fine. I've said repeatedly that's your right, however bizarre the choice. Enjoy it. Rejoice in it. Just stop the football alchemy. Your touchstone is in need of repair!
theres quality in any long ball that leads to a goal
heres a direct play goal full of quality


long ball quality header quality finish
 
theres quality in any long ball that leads to a goal
heres a direct play goal full of quality


long ball quality header quality finish


You have become obsessed. Have a rest, then get yourself off to the nearest public park at 11 a.m. on a Sunday and enjoy the "football" that delights you so much.

As I've indicated, even your fellow Hoofers, not to mention your first form English teacher, will be embarrassed by your recent contributions. I'm not going to encourage the madness a moment longer. You carry on Hoofing: long, hard and high, to your heart's content. Just try to stop confusing it with proper football and you'll be fine. That's it now.
 
Your false premise is that Currie's long passes to feet are the same species as a Bassett launch in the general direction of the other end of the pitch. That's the Hoofers' Fallacy as I said earlier. They are chalk and cheese.

Hodges was a good player. An obvious aberration by DD. I helped pay for him and was happy to do so.

Where do you stand on Vinny Jones, Paul Williams and Wally Fucking Downes?


I’d say they were poor footballers. All managers make poor signings. There were other players though who were signed who were not technically great but did a good job for the team. Booker, Rogers, Beesley, Gayle etc. They provided the platform for those with a bit more flair (Deane, Whitehouse, Hodges, Agana, Carr etc.) to strut their stuff.


Hodges wasn’t an aberration. He was a player that Bassett took to multiple clubs because he could play but also had some of the aggression Bassett liked to have in his teams. Bassett didn’t have an aversion to good footballers. He had an aversion to nesh footballers who weren’t prepared to run through brick walls for the club. The problem was he could scarcely afford to sign players who would both fight for the team and have the ability to accompany the attitude. He unearthed some though for very little money (Kelly, Deane, Agana, Hodges etc.).


For what it’s worth, I agree with your distinction between an accurate long pass and a ball pumped up generally to the edge of the opponent’s area but don’t agree that under Basset we exclusively did the latter. I’m sure the same myth will be peddled about Warnock’s era but anyone who saw Unsworth launching those pinpoint Crossfield passes would know that it simply isn’t true no matter how many times you repeat “Santos, D’Jaffo, Bullock, Montgomery”, there will always have been McCall, Tonge, Brown, Jagielka etc. Similarly, I doubt Wilder will be remembered for Hussey and Clarke except by those with an extremely bizarrely entrenched position.
 
Pinchy is attempting to intimidate people all over the forum. He is generally obnoxious and aggressive.
How long is he going to be allowed to get away with it?

By all means report abuse - them's the rules. But he's been doing his schtick (phnar) since the internet was invented. There comes a point where you have your own fun with it or walk away shaking your head.

brownie's OP made me laugh, and I'm not sure I've got the knackers to report being called a "lover of hoof" or an "S2 diplodocus".

For the record, I don't know him from Adam and I'm not defending all his posts so no need to quote the ones where he's overdone it. That's it's just my take on a poster who, if you credit him with nothing else, definitely has stamina. :)
 
By all means report abuse - them's the rules. But he's been doing his schtick (phnar) since the internet was invented. There comes a point where you have your own fun with it or walk away shaking your head.

brownie's OP made me laugh, and I'm not sure I've got the knackers to report being called a "lover of hoof" or an "S2 diplodocus".

For the record, I don't know him from Adam and I'm not defending all his posts so no need to quote the ones where he's overdone it. That's it's just my take on a poster who, if you credit him with nothing else, definitely has stamina. :)
I was going to post something similar JD, do some people on here actually take Pinchy seriously?
Jeez, he reminds me of an Indian snake charmer and all the s24 snakes are dancing to his tune.lol!
 
I dunno why you guys are continuing to bother, might as well just leave it be at this point. Personally I often feel like responding to certain posts, but bite my lip. however I'll leave it at just this one.

Pinchy used to type a great deal of sense and I found myself agreeing with him most of the time. A lot of his opinions are very valid and correct in today's football. Direct play has been marginalised in the game, mainly as the physical side of play has become more punished, it's difficult for 'traditional' target men to exist as they used to. Remember Darius Henderson and the umpteen fouls he gave away every match, his type of forward just doesn't work any more. The best teams play a possession game, but as we see with the likes of Bayern and what Klopp is doing at Liverpool and a lot of successful sides, the tempo, pace and pressing of the opposition is very important to put pressure on their possession and fitness also plays a key part in this. This is clearly the direction Wilder has taken us a opposed to Adkins' pedestrian possession style.

Pinchy is right to bemoan the "gerrit forrad" shouters in our crowd, who miss the point of maintaining possession to be able to create chances and deny the opposition control of the ball.

However he's now become a pastiche of himself, the correct message is lost among the lashings of 'holier-than-thou' attitude and he's become barely readable, he rarely actually comments on a match or anything without reverting to his 'agendas'. It's ALWAYS a black or white argument with him, and he seems to think he and only he knows 'the correct way to play'. I have no-one on ignore on this forum but Pinchy is now the closest to gaining that accolade.

The anti-Bassett, anti-Warnock tirades are ridiculous and totally out of place, - Bassett's team was of it's day and he stopped the free-fall that this club was in after the 70s and gave us back relevance and so many memorable and successful moments. I used to watch the cup finals in the 80s and think I would never ever see my team at Wembley, but Bassett changed that. I thought I'd never see my team at the top level, but Bassett changed that. Pinchy's hateful campaign against Bassett is quite frankly disrespectful of the history of Sheffield United Football Club, and I am utterly sick of reading it. Plus it glosses over some of the incredible footballers he brought in like Deane, Agana, Hodges, Whitehouse etc, who were brilliant footballers regardless of any Hoowaffe agenda. Same with Brown, McCall, Tonge Kabba Jags, etc under Warnock.

Pinchy is obviously older than Blades in their mid-40s and younger (like me) who didn't see the Currie and Harris era, but it's like he's out to punish those who enjoyed our success under Bassett and Warnock he fails to acknowledge where this club would be and what those decades would have been like without them - imagine a world where we didn't have Leicester, the 91-92 derby double, the triple assault and the 2006 promotion among a lot of other amazing moments.

The discrediting his does at every single opportunity of some of the finest memories I have following my beloved Sheffield United is simply now BEYOND FUCKING TIRESOME.
 



Most of my best memories of watching the blades since 1975 was the Bassett era,what he achieved here was unreal at the time and it was exciting to watch.
Deano,Donny reserve £40k,Agana £30k,Tracey £12,500 and also free transfers Gannon,Booker etc
 
I know hed left .my point was after promotion united under harris finished 13 14 and 10th .under bassett we finished 13 14 and 9 th.it couldnt be amy closer and then united finished 6th after harris left but then got relegated


That was after Harris's second promotion.

After his first promotion we finished 5th in our first season up, and remained in the first division for 7 seasons - the longest any manager has kept us in the top flight since 1920s/30s when we were run by a committee rather than a manager. So, technically that is the longest ever run achieved in the top flight by any Sheffield United manager.
 
By all means report abuse - them's the rules. But he's been doing his schtick (phnar) since the internet was invented. There comes a point where you have your own fun with it or walk away shaking your head.

brownie's OP made me laugh, and I'm not sure I've got the knackers to report being called a "lover of hoof" or an "S2 diplodocus".

For the record, I don't know him from Adam and I'm not defending all his posts so no need to quote the ones where he's overdone it. That's it's just my take on a poster who, if you credit him with nothing else, definitely has stamina. :)

I've known what game Pinchy is playing for a very, very long time, Part of it is gentle humour, and the other part is that he often responds in kind, and he is a lot more intelligent than many people realise. I also don't think he is a man who you could win an argument with easily......
 
You're bonkers. Absolutely fucking straitjacket, men in white coats, bonkers.


If you think that was bonkers I'd hate to see your reaction when you come across someone who really is bonkers.

A sense of proportion seems to have got lost somewhere along the way.:)
 
By all means report abuse - them's the rules. But he's been doing his schtick (phnar) since the internet was invented. There comes a point where you have your own fun with it or walk away shaking your head.

brownie's OP made me laugh, and I'm not sure I've got the knackers to report being called a "lover of hoof" or an "S2 diplodocus".

For the record, I don't know him from Adam and I'm not defending all his posts so no need to quote the ones where he's overdone it. That's it's just my take on a poster who, if you credit him with nothing else, definitely has stamina. :)

Good point JD, rather than making blanket accusations, let any poster who's unhappy with Pinchy quote chapter and verse, then elaborate on why this particular gripe upsets them so much. Taking this a step further, what's so wrong with being upset anyway? You can either choose to ignore specific posters, or you can read and then choose to respond, but to select 'upset' as your main reason to ban a poster is highhanded and censorious, the last one being something that should be resisted at all costs. By all means disagree, but if you wish to follow the dictats of an authoritarian mindset then I think you'll find you get short shrift from this forum. Give me an 'upset' poster any day as opposed to someone with a smug smile responsible for banning someone.
 
We were paupers compared to the league we joined in 1990 .nearly all those in had spent millions on players.we had 27 k brian deane
Teams like west brom level had far more in their coffers.derby everton forest and the like all had spent several hundred thousands on players and a few million plus compared to our meagre outlay

In 1990-91 we spent £650,000 on Vinny Jones, £300,000 on Brian Marwood, £375,000 on Paul Beesley, £300,000 on John Pemberton and £250,000 on Jamie Hoyland. We also brought in Glynn Hodges on loan.

That's the best part of £2 million spent on transfers. I accept that it's probably not as much as Manchester United and some others, but at the time was a significant amount of money, and I would doubt that it was a great deal less than clubs like Coventry, Luton, Norwich, Southampton, Crystal Palace, Wimbledon, QPR were spending.

Incidentally, Manchester United paid £650,000 for Andrei Kanchelskis in 1991. The same amount that we paid for Vinny Jones a year earlier.
 
If you think that was bonkers I'd hate to see your reaction when you come across someone who really is bonkers.

A sense of proportion seems to have got lost somewhere along the way.:)

It was a light hearted remark. If you pause to read what I say, I do indeed come across people with mental health problems in the course of my work. I know the provisions of the Mental Health Act 1983 better than anyone on the forum.

I repeat, no person with mental health problems would be troubled by a frivolity on a message board.

Your last sentence is certainly correct but should not be aimed in my direction.
 
I dunno why you guys are continuing to bother, might as well just leave it be at this point. Personally I often feel like responding to certain posts, but bite my lip. however I'll leave it at just this one.

Pinchy used to type a great deal of sense and I found myself agreeing with him most of the time. A lot of his opinions are very valid and correct in today's football. Direct play has been marginalised in the game, mainly as the physical side of play has become more punished, it's difficult for 'traditional' target men to exist as they used to. Remember Darius Henderson and the umpteen fouls he gave away every match, his type of forward just doesn't work any more. The best teams play a possession game, but as we see with the likes of Bayern and what Klopp is doing at Liverpool and a lot of successful sides, the tempo, pace and pressing of the opposition is very important to put pressure on their possession and fitness also plays a key part in this. This is clearly the direction Wilder has taken us a opposed to Adkins' pedestrian possession style.

Pinchy is right to bemoan the "gerrit forrad" shouters in our crowd, who miss the point of maintaining possession to be able to create chances and deny the opposition control of the ball.

However he's now become a pastiche of himself, the correct message is lost among the lashings of 'holier-than-thou' attitude and he's become barely readable, he rarely actually comments on a match or anything without reverting to his 'agendas'. It's ALWAYS a black or white argument with him, and he seems to think he and only he knows 'the correct way to play'. I have no-one on ignore on this forum but Pinchy is now the closest to gaining that accolade.

The anti-Bassett, anti-Warnock tirades are ridiculous and totally out of place, - Bassett's team was of it's day and he stopped the free-fall that this club was in after the 70s and gave us back relevance and so many memorable and successful moments. I used to watch the cup finals in the 80s and think I would never ever see my team at Wembley, but Bassett changed that. I thought I'd never see my team at the top level, but Bassett changed that. Pinchy's hateful campaign against Bassett is quite frankly disrespectful of the history of Sheffield United Football Club, and I am utterly sick of reading it. Plus it glosses over some of the incredible footballers he brought in like Deane, Agana, Hodges, Whitehouse etc, who were brilliant footballers regardless of any Hoowaffe agenda. Same with Brown, McCall, Tonge Kabba Jags, etc under Warnock.

Pinchy is obviously older than Blades in their mid-40s and younger (like me) who didn't see the Currie and Harris era, but it's like he's out to punish those who enjoyed our success under Bassett and Warnock he fails to acknowledge where this club would be and what those decades would have been like without them - imagine a world where we didn't have Leicester, the 91-92 derby double, the triple assault and the 2006 promotion among a lot of other amazing moments.

The discrediting his does at every single opportunity of some of the finest memories I have following my beloved Sheffield United is simply now BEYOND FUCKING TIRESOME.

Fwiw this is more or less my view of Pinchy, with one difference. I stuck him on ignore a few weeks ago. First time I've ever done that for any poster.

I got to the point where I regarded him as nothing other than a tedious troll. He's not worth my time.
 
It was a light hearted remark. If you pause to read what I say, I do indeed come across people with mental health problems in the course of my work. I know the provisions of the Mental Health Act 1983 better than anyone on the forum.

I repeat, no person with mental health problems would be troubled by a frivolity on a message board.

Your last sentence is certainly correct but should not be aimed in my direction.


I was making no comment on how a person with mental health problems would react to what you wrote and don't see that as an issue. I would have thought my comment was simple and straightforward enough. Calling BTL bonkers for what he wrote was just a little over the top.
 
Alan Harper of Wendy broke his ankle in a "closed behind doors" friendly before the start of the 1988-89 season. Wally came back to playing in reserves matches in April 1989 but the ankle was never right again and he had to retire from playing. One evening he went to Josephines and saw Alan Harper there and he then confronted him. David Hirst and Imre Varadi got involved. My mate who was the bouncer at the nightclub had to deal with the situation and told Wally to leave the club
Alan Kilby ?
 
I think we have probably had more success with 'hoof ball' than 'proper football' over the past 40 years.
It worked well at the time for us although it wasn't all long ball as written by the media at the time,Deano,Hodges,Carr,Agana,Whitehouse etc were very good players
 
I dunno why you guys are continuing to bother, might as well just leave it be at this point. Personally I often feel like responding to certain posts, but bite my lip. however I'll leave it at just this one.

Pinchy used to type a great deal of sense and I found myself agreeing with him most of the time. A lot of his opinions are very valid and correct in today's football. Direct play has been marginalised in the game, mainly as the physical side of play has become more punished, it's difficult for 'traditional' target men to exist as they used to. Remember Darius Henderson and the umpteen fouls he gave away every match, his type of forward just doesn't work any more. The best teams play a possession game, but as we see with the likes of Bayern and what Klopp is doing at Liverpool and a lot of successful sides, the tempo, pace and pressing of the opposition is very important to put pressure on their possession and fitness also plays a key part in this. This is clearly the direction Wilder has taken us a opposed to Adkins' pedestrian possession style.

Pinchy is right to bemoan the "gerrit forrad" shouters in our crowd, who miss the point of maintaining possession to be able to create chances and deny the opposition control of the ball.

However he's now become a pastiche of himself, the correct message is lost among the lashings of 'holier-than-thou' attitude and he's become barely readable, he rarely actually comments on a match or anything without reverting to his 'agendas'. It's ALWAYS a black or white argument with him, and he seems to think he and only he knows 'the correct way to play'. I have no-one on ignore on this forum but Pinchy is now the closest to gaining that accolade.

The anti-Bassett, anti-Warnock tirades are ridiculous and totally out of place, - Bassett's team was of it's day and he stopped the free-fall that this club was in after the 70s and gave us back relevance and so many memorable and successful moments. I used to watch the cup finals in the 80s and think I would never ever see my team at Wembley, but Bassett changed that. I thought I'd never see my team at the top level, but Bassett changed that. Pinchy's hateful campaign against Bassett is quite frankly disrespectful of the history of Sheffield United Football Club, and I am utterly sick of reading it. Plus it glosses over some of the incredible footballers he brought in like Deane, Agana, Hodges, Whitehouse etc, who were brilliant footballers regardless of any Hoowaffe agenda. Same with Brown, McCall, Tonge Kabba Jags, etc under Warnock.

Pinchy is obviously older than Blades in their mid-40s and younger (like me) who didn't see the Currie and Harris era, but it's like he's out to punish those who enjoyed our success under Bassett and Warnock he fails to acknowledge where this club would be and what those decades would have been like without them - imagine a world where we didn't have Leicester, the 91-92 derby double, the triple assault and the 2006 promotion among a lot of other amazing moments.

The discrediting his does at every single opportunity of some of the finest memories I have following my beloved Sheffield United is simply now BEYOND FUCKING TIRESOME.

Well, you express yourself very well as usual. You make a lot of fervent and heartfelt points. That's the way to do it, much more effective than bleating and waving an imaginary red card in Foxy's face like some Premiership Prima Donna (very unattractive both in the pitch and on a forum.)

I'm afraid people read the headline remarks, not the detail. I have said clearly and repeatedly:

1. Bassett was the right man at the right time. He achieved wonders on limited resources and with limited players.

2. His methods would not work today; that's why he has been unemployable (apart from answering Quickfix's phone) for many years.

3. Although his methods patently would not work, he would still adopt them, as he made clear in a recent interview. That is why he is a dinosaur.

4. I understand why you find my scribbling tiresome. However, I have come to the conclusion that Bassett's legacy - a generation of fans who, against all modern thinking and ignoring the infallible litmus test of "which clubs win things?" favour the most unsophisticated way to play possible; a way you or I could play if we were young and fit enough - is too high a price for three or four years in the sun. We were admired under Harris - loathed and mocked in equal measure under Bassett.

5. It is totally disingenuous of people (BTL is a classic example) to varnish Bassett's style to the ludicrous extent that it is claimed that an exquisite Currie pass is no different to a Jones or Fucking-Downes aimless punt. Anyone who can't see that fundamental distinction simply doesn't understand the game.

5. He's been - he did well - his methods are now wholly redundant - he was never a managerial great - he was one-dimensional - his football pre and post - Deane was mind-numbingly awful. Enter Paul Williams, Jostein Flo and John Francis, to name but three.

6. You can perhaps understand then, why I find repeated references to Bassett as BEYOND FUCKING TIRESOME. He was no Bill Shankly, Bill Nicholson, Brian Clough or even John Harris. He barely merits a mention at any of his other clubs (Alehouse Wimbledon excepted). He is no legend. He won nothing. He left us where he found us and falling fast.

7. Our contributors are, by and large, drawn from the Bassett and Warnock generations. They forget there are those who were not beguiled by either who voted with their feet, certainly in Bassett's day when our Premier League attendances were somewhat embarrassing. He got plenty of stick back in the day, for his style. Make no mistake about that.

8. There is a right way to play. I didn't coin that phrase. It's in continuous use by managers, coaches and players at all levels, not least Tufty. They mean "get it down and play". They mean "pass and move". They mean "play football". They mean play attractive football; not alehouse Sunday League Hoof and Hope.

9. Whilst I may be in a minority in deepest darkest S2, in the real and sensible world, far from derision, anger and imaginary red cards, my views would be met with "Of course Bassett was a long ball merchant. Of course it was unattractive to watch and quite literally a pain in the neck. Of course it's outdated and redundant. Of course it has no utility, point or purpose in the modern game."

10. Warnock:

11. Me, I didn't like his unmerited arrogance, me. I didn't like his style (though it was a little more sophisticated than Bassett's.). I despised his shamefully embarrassing touchline antics.

12. He did well to get us to the Premiership I think, me. At that point KM should have done what he later acknowledged he should. Namely sack Ol' Big Nose and bring in someone of experience in the Prem and a little more of the know-how and sophistication needed at that level. He was totally out of his depth at that level, as he has demonstrated conclusively on numerous occasions. That's why he likes the Championship, him.

13. Sorry if it upsets the party line for some (certainly not all) Blades but, as ever from me, it's the robust, uncomfortable truth. It will still be the truth tomorrow, next week and next year, so I'm afraid I will have to keep pointing it out in order to counter the excesses of those who, probably through little fault of their own, know no better. For this service, I really ought to be thanked and lauded but I have no such expectations.

Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town"

Mark 6:4
 
Alan Kilby ?
No, Richard Stacey. I have known Alan since I left school but not seen him for about 5 years even though he is in my FB friends list. I see Alan's younger daughter now and then. She is a good laugh. Alan isnt interested in football. Richard is a Wendy fan and got to know quite a lot of footballers in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Said Chris Wilder is a nice man to talk to, same for Mark Todd, likes Tony Agana too. Said Wally Downes liked to take the piss out of people especially Francis Joseph
 



Fwiw this is more or less my view of Pinchy, with one difference. I stuck him on ignore a few weeks ago. First time I've ever done that for any poster.

I got to the point where I regarded him as nothing other than a tedious troll. He's not worth my time.

Hello Rev. I ❤ you....
 

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