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Bassett was 13 9 then 14.I know hed left .my point was after promotion united under harris finished 13 14 and 10th .under bassett we finished 13 14 and 9 th.it couldnt be amy closer and then united finished 6th after harris left but then got relegated
Alan Harper of Wendy broke his ankle in a "closed behind doors" friendly before the start of the 1988-89 season. Wally came back to playing in reserves matches in April 1989 but the ankle was never right again and he had to retire from playing. One evening he went to Josephines and saw Alan Harper there and he then confronted him. David Hirst and Imre Varadi got involved. My mate who was the bouncer at the nightclub had to deal with the situation and told Wally to leave the clubPinchy you keep mentioning Wally Downes yet he only was with us for half a season?
I'd prefer not to get embroiled in this, or any other, argument, as I respect everyone's opinion, even if it does not accord with my own. I also have fond memories of the gifted players of the past and have been lucky enough to see them all play ( I'd also add big Frank Worthington to your list as a gifted skilful forward). However, it would be naive to overlook players of the 60s and 70s who were far more cynical than say Vinny Jones. Norman (he bites your leg) Hunter, Chopper Harris, Peter Storey, Jack Charlton, Billy Brenner, while Nobby Styles virtually kicked Eusebio out of the 66 World Cup all come to mind. Yes it was awesome watching TC and the like, but there were plenty ( I'd even hazard a guess at more) hatched men around in the 60s and 70s than there in subsequent decades.There really is no need for the statistics. If your preference is for alehouse football, simply say so. It's a bizarre and irrational choice but it is your prerogative. Don't try to clothe it in the same colours as proper football, though. You will just embarrass yourself as you have already.
The great thing about pub football is that it's available at your local park every weekend. Great views and no entrance charge. Fill your boots. Personally, I expect my team and professional football in general to give me a little more aesthetic pleasure than that, but that's me,
I'll have Tony Currie, George Best, Rodney Marsh, Stan Bowles, Jimmy Greaves, Peter Osgood, Alan Hudson, Liam Brady and Archie Gemmill to name but a few. You stick with Vinny Jones, Denis Wise and Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.
Bassett was 13 9 then 14.
Steve Goulding
Ian Mackenzie
Alan Ogden
Ian Holmes
Jimmy Bone
Steve Cammack
Pinchy is attempting to intimidate people all over the forum. He is generally obnoxious and aggressive.
How long is he going to be allowed to get away with it?
and picking on wally downes , pinchy is a poor attack
its not like Harris last squad didnt have its sawn off welly wearers
are you really saying you went to see the silky skills of the following
Steve FaulknerEngland 18/12/1954![]()
Steve Goulding
England 21/01/1954![]()
Ian Mackenzie
England 27/09/1950![]()
Alan Ogden
England 15/04/1954![]()
Midfielder
Ian Holmes
England 08/12/1950![]()
Forward
Jimmy Bone
Scotland 22/09/1949![]()
Steve Cammack
England 20/03/1954![]()
tell me how many cultured passes these offered
theres quality in any long ball that leads to a goalLook, you don't understand the painfully obvious distinction between a long targeted pass and a long aimless punt. You say they are one and the same and my contention otherwise is total hog wash. That tells me all I need to know about your understanding of the game of football.
You ❤ Hoof. Fine. I've said repeatedly that's your right, however bizarre the choice. Enjoy it. Rejoice in it. Just stop the football alchemy. Your touchstone is in need of repair!
theres quality in any long ball that leads to a goal
heres a direct play goal full of quality
long ball quality header quality finish
Your false premise is that Currie's long passes to feet are the same species as a Bassett launch in the general direction of the other end of the pitch. That's the Hoofers' Fallacy as I said earlier. They are chalk and cheese.
Hodges was a good player. An obvious aberration by DD. I helped pay for him and was happy to do so.
Where do you stand on Vinny Jones, Paul Williams and Wally Fucking Downes?
Pinchy is attempting to intimidate people all over the forum. He is generally obnoxious and aggressive.
How long is he going to be allowed to get away with it?
I was going to post something similar JD, do some people on here actually take Pinchy seriously?By all means report abuse - them's the rules. But he's been doing his schtick (phnar) since the internet was invented. There comes a point where you have your own fun with it or walk away shaking your head.
brownie's OP made me laugh, and I'm not sure I've got the knackers to report being called a "lover of hoof" or an "S2 diplodocus".
For the record, I don't know him from Adam and I'm not defending all his posts so no need to quote the ones where he's overdone it. That's it's just my take on a poster who, if you credit him with nothing else, definitely has stamina.![]()
I know hed left .my point was after promotion united under harris finished 13 14 and 10th .under bassett we finished 13 14 and 9 th.it couldnt be amy closer and then united finished 6th after harris left but then got relegated
By all means report abuse - them's the rules. But he's been doing his schtick (phnar) since the internet was invented. There comes a point where you have your own fun with it or walk away shaking your head.
brownie's OP made me laugh, and I'm not sure I've got the knackers to report being called a "lover of hoof" or an "S2 diplodocus".
For the record, I don't know him from Adam and I'm not defending all his posts so no need to quote the ones where he's overdone it. That's it's just my take on a poster who, if you credit him with nothing else, definitely has stamina.![]()
You're bonkers. Absolutely fucking straitjacket, men in white coats, bonkers.
By all means report abuse - them's the rules. But he's been doing his schtick (phnar) since the internet was invented. There comes a point where you have your own fun with it or walk away shaking your head.
brownie's OP made me laugh, and I'm not sure I've got the knackers to report being called a "lover of hoof" or an "S2 diplodocus".
For the record, I don't know him from Adam and I'm not defending all his posts so no need to quote the ones where he's overdone it. That's it's just my take on a poster who, if you credit him with nothing else, definitely has stamina.![]()
We were paupers compared to the league we joined in 1990 .nearly all those in had spent millions on players.we had 27 k brian deane
Teams like west brom level had far more in their coffers.derby everton forest and the like all had spent several hundred thousands on players and a few million plus compared to our meagre outlay
If you think that was bonkers I'd hate to see your reaction when you come across someone who really is bonkers.
A sense of proportion seems to have got lost somewhere along the way.![]()
I dunno why you guys are continuing to bother, might as well just leave it be at this point. Personally I often feel like responding to certain posts, but bite my lip. however I'll leave it at just this one.
Pinchy used to type a great deal of sense and I found myself agreeing with him most of the time. A lot of his opinions are very valid and correct in today's football. Direct play has been marginalised in the game, mainly as the physical side of play has become more punished, it's difficult for 'traditional' target men to exist as they used to. Remember Darius Henderson and the umpteen fouls he gave away every match, his type of forward just doesn't work any more. The best teams play a possession game, but as we see with the likes of Bayern and what Klopp is doing at Liverpool and a lot of successful sides, the tempo, pace and pressing of the opposition is very important to put pressure on their possession and fitness also plays a key part in this. This is clearly the direction Wilder has taken us a opposed to Adkins' pedestrian possession style.
Pinchy is right to bemoan the "gerrit forrad" shouters in our crowd, who miss the point of maintaining possession to be able to create chances and deny the opposition control of the ball.
However he's now become a pastiche of himself, the correct message is lost among the lashings of 'holier-than-thou' attitude and he's become barely readable, he rarely actually comments on a match or anything without reverting to his 'agendas'. It's ALWAYS a black or white argument with him, and he seems to think he and only he knows 'the correct way to play'. I have no-one on ignore on this forum but Pinchy is now the closest to gaining that accolade.
The anti-Bassett, anti-Warnock tirades are ridiculous and totally out of place, - Bassett's team was of it's day and he stopped the free-fall that this club was in after the 70s and gave us back relevance and so many memorable and successful moments. I used to watch the cup finals in the 80s and think I would never ever see my team at Wembley, but Bassett changed that. I thought I'd never see my team at the top level, but Bassett changed that. Pinchy's hateful campaign against Bassett is quite frankly disrespectful of the history of Sheffield United Football Club, and I am utterly sick of reading it. Plus it glosses over some of the incredible footballers he brought in like Deane, Agana, Hodges, Whitehouse etc, who were brilliant footballers regardless of any Hoowaffe agenda. Same with Brown, McCall, Tonge Kabba Jags, etc under Warnock.
Pinchy is obviously older than Blades in their mid-40s and younger (like me) who didn't see the Currie and Harris era, but it's like he's out to punish those who enjoyed our success under Bassett and Warnock he fails to acknowledge where this club would be and what those decades would have been like without them - imagine a world where we didn't have Leicester, the 91-92 derby double, the triple assault and the 2006 promotion among a lot of other amazing moments.
The discrediting his does at every single opportunity of some of the finest memories I have following my beloved Sheffield United is simply now BEYOND FUCKING TIRESOME.
It was a light hearted remark. If you pause to read what I say, I do indeed come across people with mental health problems in the course of my work. I know the provisions of the Mental Health Act 1983 better than anyone on the forum.
I repeat, no person with mental health problems would be troubled by a frivolity on a message board.
Your last sentence is certainly correct but should not be aimed in my direction.
according to Pinchy heres another talentless hoof ball midfielder providing no quality at all
Alan Kilby ?Alan Harper of Wendy broke his ankle in a "closed behind doors" friendly before the start of the 1988-89 season. Wally came back to playing in reserves matches in April 1989 but the ankle was never right again and he had to retire from playing. One evening he went to Josephines and saw Alan Harper there and he then confronted him. David Hirst and Imre Varadi got involved. My mate who was the bouncer at the nightclub had to deal with the situation and told Wally to leave the club
I dunno why you guys are continuing to bother, might as well just leave it be at this point. Personally I often feel like responding to certain posts, but bite my lip. however I'll leave it at just this one.
Pinchy used to type a great deal of sense and I found myself agreeing with him most of the time. A lot of his opinions are very valid and correct in today's football. Direct play has been marginalised in the game, mainly as the physical side of play has become more punished, it's difficult for 'traditional' target men to exist as they used to. Remember Darius Henderson and the umpteen fouls he gave away every match, his type of forward just doesn't work any more. The best teams play a possession game, but as we see with the likes of Bayern and what Klopp is doing at Liverpool and a lot of successful sides, the tempo, pace and pressing of the opposition is very important to put pressure on their possession and fitness also plays a key part in this. This is clearly the direction Wilder has taken us a opposed to Adkins' pedestrian possession style.
Pinchy is right to bemoan the "gerrit forrad" shouters in our crowd, who miss the point of maintaining possession to be able to create chances and deny the opposition control of the ball.
However he's now become a pastiche of himself, the correct message is lost among the lashings of 'holier-than-thou' attitude and he's become barely readable, he rarely actually comments on a match or anything without reverting to his 'agendas'. It's ALWAYS a black or white argument with him, and he seems to think he and only he knows 'the correct way to play'. I have no-one on ignore on this forum but Pinchy is now the closest to gaining that accolade.
The anti-Bassett, anti-Warnock tirades are ridiculous and totally out of place, - Bassett's team was of it's day and he stopped the free-fall that this club was in after the 70s and gave us back relevance and so many memorable and successful moments. I used to watch the cup finals in the 80s and think I would never ever see my team at Wembley, but Bassett changed that. I thought I'd never see my team at the top level, but Bassett changed that. Pinchy's hateful campaign against Bassett is quite frankly disrespectful of the history of Sheffield United Football Club, and I am utterly sick of reading it. Plus it glosses over some of the incredible footballers he brought in like Deane, Agana, Hodges, Whitehouse etc, who were brilliant footballers regardless of any Hoowaffe agenda. Same with Brown, McCall, Tonge Kabba Jags, etc under Warnock.
Pinchy is obviously older than Blades in their mid-40s and younger (like me) who didn't see the Currie and Harris era, but it's like he's out to punish those who enjoyed our success under Bassett and Warnock he fails to acknowledge where this club would be and what those decades would have been like without them - imagine a world where we didn't have Leicester, the 91-92 derby double, the triple assault and the 2006 promotion among a lot of other amazing moments.
The discrediting his does at every single opportunity of some of the finest memories I have following my beloved Sheffield United is simply now BEYOND FUCKING TIRESOME.
No, Richard Stacey. I have known Alan since I left school but not seen him for about 5 years even though he is in my FB friends list. I see Alan's younger daughter now and then. She is a good laugh. Alan isnt interested in football. Richard is a Wendy fan and got to know quite a lot of footballers in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Said Chris Wilder is a nice man to talk to, same for Mark Todd, likes Tony Agana too. Said Wally Downes liked to take the piss out of people especially Francis JosephAlan Kilby ?
Fwiw this is more or less my view of Pinchy, with one difference. I stuck him on ignore a few weeks ago. First time I've ever done that for any poster.
I got to the point where I regarded him as nothing other than a tedious troll. He's not worth my time.
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