McCall staying at Motherwell

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Highbury_Blade said:
and wally downes is 4/1 :eek:
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Wally Downes FFS, I thought he was just in the betting to fill the field out a bit. But realistically who's left now that Robinson and McCall have ruled themselves out?

Might as well give it to Keith Edwards at this rate, let him put his money where his mouth is. I'm sure whoever it is he works for could find another van driver for six months.
 



I really hope that Southgate is still in there. He was my third choice after McCall and Robinson. After that, I'd possibly take a massive risk and go with Graham Arnold if he's interested.

Kenny Jackett's name is in there, but I seriously don't see how he'd be interested. If we get him though, we've actually done better than I would have ever hoped at the start.
 
Macca wouldn't have bothered chatting if he hadn't been interested. Christ knows what kind of mess we're in if he sees Motherwell as a better opportunity.
 
Exactly. The sad thing is that everyone with any slight connection to the club knows that we're not in the best condition. And so for them to still come for an interview, but discover that the club is in a worse state than they believed, there's got to be a lot truly wrong.

It's likely a combination of:
  • No money to spend on players
  • Wage bill has to be reduced
  • Board has final say on signings and sales
  • Likelihood that Maguire and/or Long will be sold this Summer
  • Can't afford to bring your own staff in and must make use of current employees
 
Houso said:
Exactly. The sad thing is that everyone with any slight connection to the club knows that we're not in the best condition. And so for them to still come for an interview, but discover that the club is in a worse state than they believed, there's got to be a lot truly wrong.

It's likely a combination of:
  • No money to spend on players
  • Wage bill has to be reduced
  • Board has final say on signings and sales
  • Likelihood that Maguire and/or Long will be sold this Summer
  • Can't afford to bring your own staff in and must make use of current employees
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I reckon that's pretty close to the mark.

Winter has said that we will be operating with a reduced back room staff and whilst I can see us paying compo for a new boss I can't see us paying for a whole new back room set up, plus severance to those that lose their jobs as a result.
 
So it is very clear, if it wasn't before, that prospective managers are being told: "your remit is to lower the wage bill and get us promoted". It's not exactly atttractive to managers at other clubs ala McCall and Robinson.
We will be taking on an out of work manager desperate to get back into the game or one at a lower level of the game at a club with less than us (eg Northampton - Aidy Boothroyd).
This is anyone's job at the moment - Southgate, Boothroyd, Appleton, Barker, Slade, Morgan, Downes, Arnold, Hodges all offer decent odds.
None of these fill me with joy - I'd like us to try for Steve Davis from Crewe: in two seasons he has got them promoted, kept them steady in league 1 and won the JPT. All on a budget less than a shoestring and blooding youngsters through. Sounds just like what needs to happen with us. Why would he leave crewe for us? 1. We will pay him a higher wage. 2. We moan about no money available but he will have at least 3x that than he does at Crewe. 3. The chance to manage a team in front of 15,000+ fans week in week out as opposed to 6,000.
Unfortunately, I see his odds to become the new Wolves manager have been slashed to evens. Why was he not on our radar???!!!
 
Jim Chimmerney said:
Macca wouldn't have bothered chatting if he hadn't been interested. Christ knows what kind of mess we're in if he sees Motherwell as a better opportunity.
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Yeah I mean who wants European football and a self built successful team over third division mediocrity? Man must be mad. o_O
 
Bladesway said:
Yeah I mean who wants European football and a self built successful team over third division mediocrity? Man must be mad. o_O
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They'll be out of 'Europe' by the end of August and he's already lost 4 or 5 players from his 1st team from last season.
 
Disappointed on this. It's clear that whatever conditions were set during the interview are very tight ones. Dreading who we get in now, none of the other mentioned are good enough in my opinion. Southgate is to soft, Wilder a massive gamble, Page no mangerial experience….I could go on.

Kenny Jackett would be the only one left i'd take, but he doesn't fit the profile set out!
 
Arnold would not be a bad bet to be honest, has worked miracles under similar circumstances at the mariners (a lot of which has been under McCabes watch).

He is used to having no money, players have not been paid at certain times, has had players sold put from under him mid-season every year to keepmthe club afloat but has done a brilliant job a bring the best out of players and getting them playing way above their potential and building a team (think Dave Bassett style of man management but actually playing football). Gives the kids a chance and they have paid him back in spades.

He also has Gus Hiddink as one of his mentors.
 
MarinerBlade said:
Arnold would not be a bad bet to be honest, has worked miracles under similar circumstances at the mariners (a lot of which has been under McCabes watch).

He is used to having no money, players have not been paid at certain times, has had players sold put from under him mid-season every year to keepmthe club afloat but has done a brilliant job a bring the best out of players and getting them playing way above their potential and building a team (think Dave Bassett style of man management but actually playing football). Gives the kids a chance and they have paid him back in spades.

He also has Gus Hiddink as one of his mentors.
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That's all well and good, but what makes you think he'd be willing to come to other side of the world to do the exact same thing in a british climate!! If I were him i'd be staying exactly where I am!
 
SotonBlade said:
That's all well and good, but what makes you think he'd be willing to come to other side of the world to do the exact same thing in a british climate!! If I were him i'd be staying exactly where I am!
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Scotland is not that far away Sotters - and the climate is worse than South Yorkshire ;)
 



MarinerBlade said:
Arnold would not be a bad bet to be honest, has worked miracles under similar circumstances at the mariners (a lot of which has been under McCabes watch).

He is used to having no money, players have not been paid at certain times, has had players sold put from under him mid-season every year to keepmthe club afloat but has done a brilliant job a bring the best out of players and getting them playing way above their potential and building a team (think Dave Bassett style of man management but actually playing football). Gives the kids a chance and they have paid him back in spades.

He also has Gus Hiddink as one of his mentors.
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He lives in Australia and works quite successfully over there. Why on earth would anyone want to leave that to come to the comparative shit hole that is Yorkshire to be yelled at by idiots who think it's his fault and not the owner's when things go wrong?
 
Deano said:
Not so long ago we were averaging over 30,000 in the Premiership - now we can't attract managers from the likes of Motherwell and MK Dons. What the fuck has McCabe done to our club? Premiership support, sunday league owner & board.
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Ermmmmmm and who was the owner that developed the stadium and built the team that got us to the Premiership?

All my life's a circle ;)
 
Latters said:
He lives in Australia and works quite successfully over there. Why on earth would anyone want to leave that to come to the comparative shit hole that is Yorkshire to be yelled at by idiots who think it's his fault and not the owner's when things go wrong?
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He has done everything down here so time for the next challenge, he has always said he wants to head overseas. the blades give him a good option, if he does well then all good, if not then not really done any worse than a whole lot of other managers in the same situation. he has Wharmsley over there at the academy so has one of his trusted team in place with a good perspective on the youth side of things, which as I mentioned he will play.
 
It could be similar to an appointment made more than a decade ago.

A manager brought in from a tinpot league to manage over here, many cries of despair and gnashing of teeth because it was no grounding for such an important job. What happened to that Arsene Wenger?
 
Has anyone seen any marbles??
 
Maidenhead said:
Ermmmmmm and who was the owner that developed the stadium and built the team that got us to the Premiership?

All my life's a circle ;)
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Built the team was Warnock, so KM can't claim it was him on that one
 
1889 said:
Might as well give it to Keith Edwards at this rate, let him put his money where his mouth is. I'm sure whoever it is he works for could find another van driver for six months.
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Not him again! He has no coaching experience at professional level and he will be 60 in a few years time
 
Houso said:
I really hope that Southgate is still in there. He was my third choice after McCall and Robinson. After that, I'd possibly take a massive risk and go with Graham Arnold if he's interested.

Kenny Jackett's name is in there, but I seriously don't see how he'd be interested. If we get him though, we've actually done better than I would have ever hoped at the start.
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Agree wholeheartedly Houso, we can dream...coz that's all we've got left :(

UTB
 



Sadly this is what happens when you sack a manager with no plan in place as to how to replace him. McCabe sacked Wilson on a whim with the hope that Morgan would either manage to gee the side up sufficient to get us up which would make us attractive to a decent manager to come in next season or, at least show a significant improvement to justify giving him the permanent position in league 1. Unfortunately neither of these happened.

With Robinson and McCall apparently turning us down it seems clear we are not at this time an attractive proposition for managers currently in employment to further their career. We therefore need to look at the best options from those managers currently out of work. It is also imperative that whoever we pick is allowed to bring their own staff if we are to get the fresh start we need. I suspect this may be the biggest sticking point in making an appointment.
 
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