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Some interesting comments from Stuart McCall in the run-up to Saturday's match.

McCall said: “It’s not going to be easy for David and I think they are looking at it as more of a long-term strategy.

“But when you are getting 17-18,000 supporters turning up week in, week out at home and so many travelling away, they aren’t going to accept rebuilding.

“That’s the job he has got there now. Everyone knows the budget has been slashed and they’ve had to let players go. There might still be more in the next couple of weeks before the window shuts.

You can perhaps understand why he was put off...

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co....legend_McCall_recalls_Blades_anguish/?ref=rss
 



When we were in the premiership, I had such belief in the blades that I never wrote of getting a win anywhere. That included old Trafford, Stamford bridge etc. Now, I have no belief whatsoever we will get anything but beaten at fucking Bradford.
 
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When we get thumped at Bradford on Saturday it will be the first time we've lost a league match against them since 1988.
 
When we were in the premiership, I had such belief in the blades that I never wrote of getting a win anywhere. That included old Trafford, Stamford bridge etc. Now, I have no belief whatsoever we will get anything but beaten at fucking Bradford.

Sadly, Ol' Big Nose did not share your views!
 
When we get thumped at Bradford on Saturday it will be the first time we've lost a league match against them since 1988.

Not just league matches*. Our unbeaten streak against Bradford in senior competitions

18/11/89 D2 H D1-1 (Gannon)
3/3/90 D2 A W4-1 ((Deane, Whitehouse, Stancliffe, Agana)
20/8/96 LC H W3-0 (Walker, Vonk, White)
3/9/96 LC A W2-1 (Ward, Walker pen)
10/9/96 D1 H W3-0 (Whitehouse 2, Taylor)
26/12/96 D1 A W2-1 (Hodgson, Scott)
18/11/97 D1 A D1-1 (Deane)
28/2/98 D1 H W2-1 (Taylor 2)
12/9/98 D1 A D2-2 (Saunders, Stuart)
19/2/99 D1 H D2-2 (Woodhouse, Marcelo)
8/9/01 D1 H D2-2 (Curle, Asaba)
26/12/01 D1 A W2-1 (Asaba 2)
23/11/02 D1 A W5-0 (Kabba, Windass, Murphy, Brown pen, Asaba)
29/4/03 D1 H W3-0 (Brown 2, 1 pen, Ndlovu)
27/9/03 D1 A W2-1 (Ndlovu, McCall)
20/3/04 D1 H W2-0 (Morgan, Lester)

P16 W11 D5 L0 F38 A14

* The game on 8/11/11 in the Mickey Mouse Lower Divisons Crap trophy might be thought to stop this unbeaten streak in all competitions. It was 1-1 (Phillips) after 90 mins and we lost on penalties. I say it doesn't stop the steak as
(a) I don't count this cup as a senior competition; and
(b) even if it is a senior competition, I count "losses" on penalities as draws for statistical purposes, but I am not getting into that again...
 
"Pinchy, post: 518917, member: 2215"]Sadly, Ol' Big Nose did not share your views![/quote]
2 years and counting of "your" football have got is nowhere other than bored out of our minds.

UTB
 
How many did we win away that year ?
Warnocks away tactics in the Prem were terrible

Think it was three. Newcastle, Wigan and watford? I agree tactics were wrong. I went to villa Park last away game and he claimed we went for the win, which was utter bollox. I just meant I had faith in us to get a result, probably inspired by our fantastic home record.
 
The most boring shit Bert has ever seen at the Lane was last weekend, the so called Passing Game is all well and good but if no bugger is capable of getting the ball in the box then it and Weir need consigning to the file marked Martin Peters/Adrian Heath/Happy Harry Haslam/SinclairC5/Phillips2000/Betamax/Gary Sinclair's hair.
 
Let's be honest, it wasn't Tevez that got us relegated that year but the appalling 8 (yes EIGHT) goals scored away from home!!

the ninth was scored at west ham ,in the last minute was wrongly disallowed but the ref admitted hed got it wrong on the monday , that draw would have saved us , but hey ho its only us
 
"Pinchy, post: 518917, member: 2215"]Sadly, Ol' Big Nose did not share your views!
2 years and counting of "your" football have got is nowhere other than bored out of our minds.

UTB

My football is that of Brazil '70, the Arsenal Invincibles, the great Liverpool teams and modern day Barcelona and, let it be said, John Harris' Blades.. On a more realistic note for us, Swansea City. We have come nowhere near that in the last two years. Last season DW abandoned proper football and it was dire.

I realise you still yearn for the glory years of Blackwell but all good things come to an end and, sadly but inevitably, his unique talent has taken him on to bigger things.

For now you'll have to content yourself with those previous Wimbledon and Watford videos. Those were the days!
 
UTB

My football is that of Brazil '70, the Arsenal Invincibles, the great Liverpool teams and modern day Barcelona and, let it be said, John Harris' Blades.. On a more realistic note for us, Swansea City. We have come nowhere near that in the last 2 years

missing a 4 in front of the 2
 
2 years and counting of "your" football have got is nowhere other than bored out of our minds.

UTB

My football is that of Brazil '70, the Arsenal Invincibles, the great Liverpool teams and modern day Barcelona and, let it be said, John Harris' Blades..

How many of them play the 4-2-3-1 formation and are afraid of pressing up the field? If you are going to reply to this, please do not reply in a narrow minded way
 



Some interesting comments from Stuart McCall in the run-up to Saturday's match.



You can perhaps understand why he was put off...

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co....legend_McCall_recalls_Blades_anguish/?ref=rss
People talk about our attendance as a big positive, but it'd be much better for the proper fans, players and staff if t was a much smaller nucleus of patient, knowledgeable fans, not some idiots shouting 'get it up', 'what's all this passing round the back nonsense', 'get stuck in', and many, many more.
 
The goal was disallowed for a foul that wasn't, goal line technology wouldn't have helped.

The ref thought little Rob Kozluk had fouled big Rob Green. Rob Green has always been dodgy in dealing with crosses and he fumbled a catch when climbing over Kozluk before Nicky Law put the ball into the net only for the stupi ref to blow for a foul
 
2 years and counting of "your" football have got is nowhere other than bored out of our minds.

UTB

My football is that of Brazil '70, the Arsenal Invincibles, the great Liverpool teams and modern day Barcelona and, let it be said, John Harris' Blades.. On a more realistic note for us, Swansea City. We have come nowhere near that in the last two years. Last season DW abandoned proper football and it was dire.

I realise you still yearn for the glory years of Blackwell but all good things come to an end and, sadly but inevitably, his unique talent has taken him on to bigger things.

For now you'll have to content yourself with those previous Wimbledon and Watford videos. Those were the days!

Pinchy. If that's what you want to see then stop being a Blade and become a Gooner because it will never happen at Bramall Lane.
You have to have decent players to use that system.
If you try to out football teams with sub standard players you will see only one result.
The reason it will never happen at SUFC is that we never build to succeed we just sell to survive.

Your ethos is commendable
The flimsy attempts the Blades make to emulate it are pathetic
You can only work with the talents you have and we never have any worth their salt so you should structure your play to reflect the limitations of those players at your disposal. Unfortunately ours aren't much more capable that fannying around with the ball, pretending they can play but when it actually needs some vision, skill, awareness, cunning, ability, courage, nouse, etc they all fall well short of what is required. No matter what philosophy Weir has he cannot play for them.

Your derision of those who are complaining is trite.
However it is dressed up people want a team that competes
A team to have some pride in
A team that inspires
A team that gives you hope
A team that puts a smile on your face
A team that overcomes adversity when the odds are stacked against us
Not a team that capitulates even when the odds are in our favour
A team that works their gnads off (all the best purist teams do that as well)
A team that excites
A team that deserves the support it has by birth right (let's face it you wouldn't choose to follow SUFC unless your are as mad as @bergen)

Having a few spotty youths and a group of never has beens pussying around with the ball in their own half, not having the ability to create anything is no ones idea of good entertaining football.
If there is no goalmouth action there is nothing.
There is no entertainment, no hope, no smiles, no satisfaction, no excitement.
I don't really care how they create it. They have just got to create it the best way they can within their clear and obvious limitations.
We are not here to watch them fail at something they simply aren't capable of doing.

I am fed up of telling myself that my Saturday was great until 15:00
That the beer was good and the company was good.

I can drink a fucking beer anytime
I just can't keep watching this shit and believe it is a path to better things.
 
Pinchy. If that's what you want to see then stop being a Blade and become a Gooner because it will never happen at Bramall Lane.
You have to have decent players to use that system.
If you try to out football teams with sub standard players you will see only one result.
The reason it will never happen at SUFC is that we never build to succeed we just sell to survive.

Your ethos is commendable
The flimsy attempts the Blades make to emulate it are pathetic
You can only work with the talents you have and we never have any worth their salt so you should structure your play to reflect the limitations of those players at your disposal. Unfortunately ours aren't much more capable that fannying around with the ball, pretending they can play but when it actually needs some vision, skill, awareness, cunning, ability, courage, nouse, etc they all fall well short of what is required. No matter what philosophy Weir has he cannot play for them.

Your derision of those who are complaining is trite.
However it is dressed up people want a team that competes
A team to have some pride in
A team that inspires
A team that gives you hope
A team that puts a smile on your face
A team that overcomes adversity when the odds are stacked against us
Not a team that capitulates even when the odds are in our favour
A team that works their gnads off (all the best purist teams do that as well)
A team that excites
A team that deserves the support it has by birth right (let's face it you wouldn't choose to follow SUFC unless your are as mad as @bergen)



Having a few spotty youths and a group of never has beens pussying around with the ball in their own half, not having the ability to create anything is no ones idea of good entertaining football.
If there is no goalmouth action there is nothing.
There is no entertainment, no hope, no smiles,

Swansea started with a similar group of nonentities , but had patient fans, thats something we have in short supply, theres reasons for that of course , but its still very early days, lets not forget Swansea started a division lower so didnt even have div 1 players to start with, they took half a season to get into it , weve played 4 games
 
Swansea started with a similar group of nonentities , but had patient fans, thats something we have in short supply, theres reasons for that of course , but its still very early days, lets not forget Swansea started a division lower so didnt even have div 1 players to start with, they took half a season to get into it , weve played 4 games

Swansea rebuilt from scratch in a division below without the millstone of £50m debt forcing the sale of any half decent player
You cannot draw parallels between the two.

We've been going backwards not forwards for the last 5 years.
Replacing shit players with equally shit or worse players does not improve anything not any chance of making a football philosophy work.
Wilson was trying to do the same. We didn't play hoof under Wilson.

What's more concerning still is the woeful lack of chances being created by the midfield.
We have shit strikers anyway so expecting them to put away the one or two chances they get in a game is asking far too much of them.
The only side we have dominated in 5 games so far this year is County. They had 10 men for most of the game and have been shocking ever since. Burton soaked up everything we had with ease and then hit us with two basic goals.
Without a cracker from Doyle out of nowhere we wouldn't have scored.

Against Colchester, without a rickett from their keeper we wouldn't have scored and would have lost the game.

Not one goal from a striker in 5 games.

It's not a case of us being unlucky in any of it. In fact I would say we have been very fortunate already in games played already.

Where are the signs that progress is being made?
All I can see is a philosophy that works for top Prem squads being applied to a set of the same no hopers that failed miserably when the chips were down the last time around.

Its only 4 games in - Bollocks!
If you can't read the signs already then you are just kidding yourself.
I suppose Peterborough cracking 4 or 5 in each game is just a fucking lucky coincidence is it?
 
I have grave concerns over our current striking options, but what a supposed 50 million debt , not sure on where you get that from , has to do with it is beyong me , if your a million in debt as swansea were their buying options were 10 years ago as healthy as ours ,

I have read some encouraging signs out of the first 4 games , but there is a mountain to scale in terms of quality , but weve lost at brentford who are one of the favourites and a bradford side who got a bigger gate than we got, and despatched arsenal wigan and villa last season . So lets worry a bit , but not throw the arms in the air saying we will be relegated, well not just yet.
I can also forsee trouble beating peterboro just now and maybe orient , but you expect some opposition .
Theres a whole new ethos and a lot of raw youngsters , trying to find their feet, us baying for blood after 4 games isnt going to help.
 
Reconciliation of Net Cash Flow to Movement in Net Debt
For the year ended 30 June 2012
2012 2011
£000 £000
(Decrease)/increase in cash in the year (671) 3,262
Cash outflow from decrease in debt and lease financing 5,315 4,437
Change in net debt resulting from cash flows 4,644 7,699
Other non-cash changes 34 -
Conversion of other loans to ordinary share capital 250 -
Movement in net debt in the year 4,928 7,699
Net debt at 1 July 2011 (32,179) (39,878)
Net debt at 30 June 2012 26 (27,251) (32,179)
if you took the time to read the annual report it shows our current debt fell 2011 32 mill to 2012 27 mill , neither of which is 50 million,
 
Pinchy. If that's what you want to see then stop being a Blade and become a Gooner because it will never happen at Bramall Lane.
You have to have decent players to use that system.
If you try to out football teams with sub standard players you will see only one result.
The reason it will never happen at SUFC is that we never build to succeed we just sell to survive.

Your ethos is commendable
The flimsy attempts the Blades make to emulate it are pathetic
You can only work with the talents you have and we never have any worth their salt so you should structure your play to reflect the limitations of those players at your disposal. Unfortunately ours aren't much more capable that fannying around with the ball, pretending they can play but when it actually needs some vision, skill, awareness, cunning, ability, courage, nouse, etc they all fall well short of what is required. No matter what philosophy Weir has he cannot play for them.

Your derision of those who are complaining is trite.
However it is dressed up people want a team that competes
A team to have some pride in
A team that inspires
A team that gives you hope
A team that puts a smile on your face
A team that overcomes adversity when the odds are stacked against us
Not a team that capitulates even when the odds are in our favour
A team that works their gnads off (all the best purist teams do that as well)
A team that excites
A team that deserves the support it has by birth right (let's face it you wouldn't choose to follow SUFC unless your are as mad as @bergen)

Having a few spotty youths and a group of never has beens pussying around with the ball in their own half, not having the ability to create anything is no ones idea of good entertaining football.
If there is no goalmouth action there is nothing.
There is no entertainment, no hope, no smiles, no satisfaction, no excitement.
I don't really care how they create it. They have just got to create it the best way they can within their clear and obvious limitations.
We are not here to watch them fail at something they simply aren't capable of doing.

I am fed up of telling myself that my Saturday was great until 15:00
That the beer was good and the company was good.

I can drink a fucking beer anytime
I just can't keep watching this shit and believe it is a path to better things.

Kenilworth that is an ace post. I am sure the lads don't mean to faff about, but you explain most licidly what I want my team to do.
 
Swansea started with a similar group of nonentities , but had patient fans, thats something we have in short supply, theres reasons for that of course , but its still very early days, lets not forget Swansea started a division lower so didnt even have div 1 players to start with, they took half a season to get into it , weve played 4 games

Your obsession with Swansea is as bad as Micalijo's obsession with Man City. One of my good mates (went to same school as me) is a big Swansea fan and he will agree with me that the Blades and Swansea are different, just that Swansea got lucky when they appointed Martinez, Rodgers and Laudrup who all have similar views in football. When Martinez was appointed, it was a big risk but it was easier for him because Swansea were dire for a long time and the majority of fans were already thick skinned from years of watching them play poorly and were happy to go with the new manager's style of play.
 
Swansea got lucky when they appointed Martinez, Rodgers and Laudrup who all have similar views in football.

They might have got lucky in that those managers were unproven at first, but showed themselves to be quality. But what absolutely was not lucky was the consistency of approach.

Imagine if we'd settled down into proper long term planning after the 2009 play off....
 
well cardiff then , held back for years under Dave Jones negativity , now blossomimg and beating man city under malky mckay , who sacked mckay, doing a great job , cardiff were years as nearly men , patience paid off for them now , that and changing to lucky red whod have thought
 



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