Player Suggestion Marko Grujic

[Luke1993]

21 year old midfielder from Liverpool, his agent has said he wants him to go on loan to an English club. Would be cover for coutts and get him playing time. I believe he's a full Serbia international? and is believed to be highly rated by Klopp, but can't get in the midfield. I don't know if they would want to drop to the championship or try and get a lower Pl team though. But all they have to do is look at blackman and ccv.

 

[S5Blade]

He is absolutely quality on Football Manager 2018......

 

[Liaminho9]

Good shout - stumbling block may be wages, depending how much % Liverpool want covering.

 

[Ricky]

That's a good shout.

Tall and good on the ball from what I've seen, but maybe lacks that bit extra to get in Liverpool's side.

 

[Bladesman]

Wait til I sign him on FIFA first and let me get back to you.

 

[DifferentClass]

Too foreign for Wilder's tastes

 

[BerksBlade]

Signed for Cardiff.
Warnock has disclosed that he had to play 14 games in the remainder of the season - otherwise Cardiff will be "financially punished".
I still don't fully understand how this isn't interpreted as a form of "3rd-party interference"?

 

[ljk]

Signed for Cardiff.
Warnock has disclosed that he had to play 14 games in the remainder of the season - otherwise Cardiff will be "financially punished".
I still don't fully understand how this isn't interpreted as a form of "3rd-party interference"?

It seems generally accepted that players tend to push (and extend) their limits with competition for their position, so surely putting these clauses in loan deals makes them a pointless, and possibly counter-productive, exercise for the parent teams.

Either Grujic plays well, confirming that he's a good player, but is never required to really stretch himself because he's guaranteed 1st team football anyway. Or, he struggles, is resented by the fans (and possibly his team-mates), and returns to Liverpool damaged.

Perhaps I'm being biased, but I imagine that the CCV scenario - in which he was dropped for a couple of dodgy performances but fought his way back into contention - would be far better for a young player's development. After all, top level youth players are already supremely talented. The whole point of a loan is to develop their mentality.

 

[BerksBlade]

It seems generally accepted that players tend to push (and extend) their limits with competition for their position, so surely putting these clauses in loan deals makes them a pointless, and possibly counter-productive, exercise for the parent teams.

Either Grujic plays well, confirming that he's a good player, but is never required to really stretch himself because he's guaranteed 1st team football anyway. Or, he struggles, is resented by the fans (and possibly his team-mates), and returns to Liverpool damaged.

Perhaps I'm being biased, but I imagine that the CCV scenario - in which he was dropped for a couple of dodgy performances but fought his way back into contention - would be far better for a young player's development. After all, top level youth players are already supremely talented. The whole point of a loan is to develop their mentality.

I agree.
CCV played 17 times for us - how many games would he have played for Spurs if he'd stayed there? In addition he's found out what it's like to have a confidence blip and be dropped - hopefully he's learned something by being taken out of his comfort zone a little.
Maybe when Spurs asked Chris WIlder why he wasn't playing every game they weren't expecting an honest answer!

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Signed for Cardiff.
Warnock has disclosed that he had to play 14 games in the remainder of the season - otherwise Cardiff will be "financially punished".
I still don't fully understand how this isn't interpreted as a form of "3rd-party interference"?

I can see the logic from Liverpools POV.

They have an asset that plenty of clubs would fancy taking on loan and want him to develop. Cardiff want him, They need to ensure he doesn’t just sit on the bench ornot in the squad when he could be playing.

It’s then up to Cardiff if they take the chance of either paying some additional fee or have a potential liability in the side...

 

[BushBlade]

Signed for Cardiff.
Warnock has disclosed that he had to play 14 games in the remainder of the season - otherwise Cardiff will be "financially punished".
I still don't fully understand how this isn't interpreted as a form of "3rd-party interference"?

What are the actual rules you think might have been broken?

 

[BerksBlade]

What are the actual rules you think might have been broken?

FA Rule C 1 (b) (iii):
“No Club shall enter into a contract which enables any other party to that contract to acquire the ability materially to influence the Club's policies or the performance of its teams in Matches and/or Competitions.”

Are Liverpool exerting an influence on Cardiff's team selection policy?
What if he turns out to be poor in his first couple of games? Can Cardiff afford to drop him?

 

[BushBlade]

FA Rule C 1 (b) (iii):
“No Club shall enter into a contract which enables any other party to that contract to acquire the ability materially to influence the Club's policies or the performance of its teams in Matches and/or Competitions.”

Are Liverpool exerting an influence on Cardiff's team selection policy?
What if he turns out to be poor in his first couple of games? Can Cardiff afford to drop him?

dunno, tbh, I've got some kind of virus and my head's gone a bit. I was a bit more with it when I asked but I've gone now. Struggling to put words together.

 

[BerksBlade]

Booked after 7 minutes on his debut.

 

[Bladezz]

Wouldn’t get in our team based on thag performance just now.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Lee Evans Marko Grujic

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

He were'nt all that in the game against pigs,i wanted him sub'd.

 

[Chali 2na]

I still don't fully understand how this isn't interpreted as a form of "3rd-party interference"?

The way I've heard it explained (not by anyone official; just other fellow gobshites on here) is that it's not so much a "penalty" but rather a "lack of a discount", ie if he's playing they pay 50% of his wages, if not, they pay it all.

I'm not sure if that answers your question?

dunno, tbh, I've got some kind of virus and my head's gone a bit. I was a bit more with it when I asked but I've gone now. Struggling to put words together.

Just had this or something similar last week: at least you didnt tell your boss you loved them down the phone...