Managerial candidates IF clough leaves

[SwissBlade]

That's a joke post right :? :? :?

Why?

 

[Blade for Sale]

Fatih Terim. Get our Turkish connections on the case.

 

[super_pig]

jurgen klopp.. thank you very much

 

[Worksop II]

jurgen klopp.. thank you very much

Oh a Crazy German on ze touchline ... be different

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Oh a Crazy German on ze touchline ... be different

Heard a very interesting Radio 5 Live article/interview with a German newspaper reporter this morning.

He says Klopp is very demanding - he demands that his players run around hard for the full 90 minutes.

Well, fuck me - fancy wanting players to run around ALL of the time and for a FULL 90 minutes, giving 100% every game - never catch on with our lot! Fucking stupid Germans, what ever next. They'll never be any good these Germans

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[itsinyerblood]

That's a joke post right :? :? :?

No more of a joke than you calling one of our players scum.

 

[mulroeblade]

Watched MLS on tele and the Orlando city manager looks good! Very attacking with Kaka in midfield.
Recognized his face from somewhere.
(5 mins later)
Its that bloody Adrian Heath.

 

[Aston max]

Oh a Crazy German on ze touchline ... be different

Why not ? heard we keep getting one in the directors box

 

[Aston max]

Yep he's brought in some cracking players - but not just that he's brought out the best in many of the players we had before and brought some of the kids through. The academy now links up well with the development squad and the first team.

He sets the side up well tactically, needs a few tweaks at times but it's the way forward.

Long may clough continue.

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[SwissBlade]

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?????????? Back to you

 

[davidpinder]

Apologies, your right he did in his second season. My mistake. however, he's also been shite this year, and very nearly went down last year.

Now if you were a Sunderland fan would you have wanted the club to stick with him or sack him? If your answer is stick with him, then why dont you want us to stick with Clough? If your answer is sack him, then why would you want him as our next manager?

Premier league and league 1 big difference, he is proven at this level.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

Premier league and league 1 big difference, he is proven at this level.

You didn't answer my question.

Also, I wouldn't say he is 'proven' , he had one good year. Would you want cotterill, Ronnie Moore, Gary Johnson, Paul sturrock, Brian Flynn as manager?? They've all had a promotion from this division.

 

[Dalelane01]

We were in real trouble when n/c came to our club he kept our season going and we were just short of the playoff positions he generated cash for our club by the great cup run we went on and kept us the fans interested all last season. this season we are virtually in the playoffs. had another amazing cup run generating more money for our club again keeping us supporters interested. most fans would be happy with this. hes only been with us around one and a half seasons give the lad a chance at least till after the playoffs provided we get there. Theres no guarantee another manager can do any better.and if he did it might take 3to4 seasons

 

[gavtheblade]

Until the position is vacant, I don't see the point of this thread.
We have plenty to play for till it's the season end.
The players as individuals are as good as any players in the league, but as a unit I think their attitudes let a lot of them down.
Clough picks the team.The team score and concede the goals.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

Set pieces mainly

Isn't the problem with set pieces the fact that he hasn't bought well?

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

You didn't answer my question.

Also, I wouldn't say he is 'proven' , he had one good year. Would you want cotterill, Ronnie Moore, Gary Johnson, Paul sturrock, Brian Flynn as manager?? They've all had a promotion from this division.

Very good point . The more names that are banded about , the more we should stick with Clough .

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[Fulwood Blade]

Isn't the problem with set pieces the fact that he hasn't bought well?

The problem with set pieces is only Davis can deliver them where they should go.

The set piece delivery of others, as with free kicks is quite frankly abysmal.

Do we not have ANY players that loves footy that much, that they stay behind after training (like Beckham did) and practice.

I have watched many many free kicks this season be put in a space aiming for ONE player. Now if that ball is too long, it quite simply goes out of play and is wasted. The theory of ANY free kick is you practice moving off the ball and putting it in a pre determined place for a player, with the option of if it is over hit, there is another player behind that can get it. It's not bloody rocket science, we, as a club are fucking pathetic at how we take our free kicks. Seen it all bloody season.

Sorry to rant a bit, not aimed at you - just the crap training techniques.

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[bladeinspaceandtime]

The problem with set pieces is only Davis can deliver them where they should go.

The set piece delivery of others, as with free kicks is quite frankly abysmal.

Do we not have ANY players that loves footy that much, that they stay behind after training (like Beckham did) and practice.

I have watched many many free kicks this season be put in a space aiming for ONE player. Now if that ball is too long, it quite simply goes out of play and is wasted. The theory of ANY free kick is you practice moving off the ball and putting it in a pre determined place for a player, with the option of if it is over hit, there is another player behind that can get it. It's not bloody rocket science, we, as a club are fucking pathetic at how we take our free kicks. Seen it all bloody season.

Sorry to rant a bit, not aimed at you - just the crap training techniques.

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And that's down to?

 

[Lane Ender]

Yep he's brought in some cracking players - but not just that he's brought out the best in many of the players we had before and brought some of the kids through. The academy now links up well with the development squad and the first team.

He sets the side up well tactically, needs a few tweaks at times but it's the way forward.

Long may clough continue.

On the count of three you will wake up

 

[Fulwood Blade]

And that's down to?

Of course it's the management, if that is what you are after.

Still doesn't mean that we can turn a tap on and just pick a decent manager out of thin air that is suddenly going to wave a magic wand and everything in the garden will be rosy.

Some fans think that is all we need to do - as unrealistic as it comes.

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[super_pig]

Still doesn't mean that we can turn a tap on and just pick a decent manager out of thin air that is suddenly going to wave a magic wand and everything in the garden will be rosy.
Some fans think that is all we need to do - as unrealistic as it comes.
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Some fans have noticed that others seem to do it though

 

[Kev Gee]

If we dont go up via the Play Offs then Clough has failed at his number 1 aim & I fully expect him to be sacked.
HRH will not tolerate failiure & neither will JP.

I then hope we give the job to Adkins. I think they would go for him to try & replicate the Southampton scenario,

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Some fans have noticed that others seem to do it though

You are 100% correct - some fans do see other clubs do it, but picking the right one is not that easy. Would you want that unenviable task and then be subjected to the sort of abuse McCabe has had.

The point I made before was if we did go down that path and we make 3 errors on the trot, you waste anything from 4-6 years. Clough is an SUFC seminal moment person, and if it doesn't come off, then the potential consequences could find us back to the problems pre Bassett.

The Prince and his advisors have put faith in a manager with lots of previous experience. No board of directors would trust loads of money with an inexperienced, untried manager - such as Lee Johnson as an example.

I have my issues with NC, but considering all options I just find it strange that some want him out.

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[Darthblade]

You are 100% correct - some fans do see other clubs do it, but picking the right one is not that easy. Would you want that unenviable task and then be subjected to the sort of abuse McCabe has had.

The point I made before was if we did go down that path and we make 3 errors on the trot, you waste anything from 4-6 years. Clough is an SUFC seminal moment person, and if it doesn't come off, then the potential consequences could find us back to the problems pre Bassett.

The Prince and his advisors have put faith in a manager with lots of previous experience. No board of directors would trust loads of money with an inexperienced, untried manager - such as Lee Johnson as an example.

I have my issues with NC, but considering all options I just find it strange that some want him out.

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Tend to agree with you .....
I don't want him out but I want him to change his ultra-cautious attitude and stop rewarding some player's poor performances with a shirt the following week.
Would also like to see the realisation dawning on him that we CANNOT go into next season in league 1 with such a weak, short, slow squad and that we need two dominant CH's and two frightening CF's. ( frightening for the other team's defence .... not us )
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[metalblade]

You are 100% correct - some fans do see other clubs do it, but picking the right one is not that easy. Would you want that unenviable task and then be subjected to the sort of abuse McCabe has had.

The point I made before was if we did go down that path and we make 3 errors on the trot, you waste anything from 4-6 years. Clough is an SUFC seminal moment person, and if it doesn't come off, then the potential consequences could find us back to the problems pre Bassett.

The Prince and his advisors have put faith in a manager with lots of previous experience. No board of directors would trust loads of money with an inexperienced, untried manager - such as Lee Johnson as an example.

I have my issues with NC, but considering all options I just find it strange that some want him out.

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Does it never cross your mind that Burton Albion in the conference might just be Cloughs level ?

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Tend to agree with you .....
I don't want him out but I want him to change his ultra-cautious attitude and stop rewarding some player's poor performances with a shirt the following week.
Would also like to see the realisation dawning on him that we CANNOT go into next season in league 1 with such a weak, short, slow squad and that we need two dominant CH's and two frightening CF's. ( frightening for the other team's defence .... not us )
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yep, agree with you.

What the "manager out" lot fail to see or accept, is that it may be no better with the next incumbent. It might me worse! but yes it could be better, unfortunately no one knows. Better for Clough to adapt and make us better. If it goes tits up we need the board to ask NC what his plans are. If the answers are fuck off, i'll do it my way or no way, then the board should ask themselves if they have the right person.

He should at least be afforded the chance next season to resolve the problems - some of us don't think there are many problems, but we do lack in a couple of areas.

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[William Henry Foulkes]

Some fans have noticed that others seem to do it though

There's something to this but what is the long term record of these managers. Genuine question - It might be great, I don't know.

The board have said a number of times that they are looking long term. It might be that a certain type of manager has an eye for the short term push but the club has chosen to focus on developing the Academy, upgrading the pitch, and other long term projects.

I think if we get up this season it'll be a bonus.

I would expect real progress next season though by which I mean a much stronger push for automatics, which would probably stem from a more balanced squad with specialists in all positions.

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[Fulwood Blade]

Does it never cross your mind that Burton Albion in the conference might just be Cloughs level ?

yes it does, and you could indeed be correct, although I would argue he wasn't a failure at Derby considering where they were when he took over - a point lost on most Blades and a lot of impatient Derby fans.

does it ever cross your mind that the next change, if it happens might make the situation 10 times worse and the one after that 10 times worse still?

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[metalblade]

yep, agree with you.

What the "manager out" lot fail to see or accept, is that it may be no better with the next incumbent. It might me worse! but yes it could be better, unfortunately no one knows. Better for Clough to adapt and make us better. If it goes tits up we need the board to ask NC what his plans are. If the answers are fuck off, i'll do it my way or no way, then the board should ask themselves if they have the right person.

He should at least be afforded the chance next season to resolve the problems - some of us don't think there are many problems, but we do lack in a couple of areas.

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Aww come on Fulwood Blade he has had all season to resolve the problems and apart from loaning a dud from Palace he has done nothing to sort out the mess he made of the back four. Serious question ............ what makes you think he will change next season ?

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Aww come on Fulwood Blade he has had all season to resolve the problems and apart from loaning a dud from Palace he has done nothing to sort out the mess he made of the back four. Serious question ............ what makes you think he will change next season ?

I think the point you are making is that he is stubborn - I agree.

My hobby horse all season about centre halves - and think NC is culpable here - not a sack able reason though IMO.

Will he change next season? - At season end AND if we don't go up, the board need to ask him hard questions and although he is manager, he is still an employee that is spending the clubs money and they should demand that this seasons issues are resolved. That is normally how a board/management works. If it doesn't and he won't accept any criticism or accept that he will do it slightly different, then I would get rid as we can't have a repeat of some of this seasons issues - it is too divisive.

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