Making the step up: squad thoughts

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Moore, Freeman, O'Connell, Basham, Fleck, Coutts, Duffy, Carruthers, Sharp will all be fine in the Championship if we strengthen around them in the right places.

Wright, Lafferty, Done, Lavery and Clarke should be given a chance due to their contribution. Think they could be useful squad players at least. Wilson might be worth looking at, still young and has played in the Championship before.

Evans falls into his own category as I'm really not sure if he can still produce at that level. I hope he can.

The rest of the squad have a big question mark over them and I don't see them playing much of a part if I'm honest. Perhaps one or two will surprise us.
 



explain the term poor season for george long

hes played in 3 league games
got beaten by a worldy at bolton no keeper would have saved we drew 1-1 with rochdale
and we lost 0-3 at home to southend due to horrific cock up all by defenders left him exposed completely

I dont get this constant berating of a player who was the previous season behind an atrocious defence
and took unnecessary blame for it

Moore has had the benefit of playing behind a solid unit , but he too has made the odd misjudgement, but gets 100 per cent benefit of the doubt

how is it a poor season when hes hardly responsible for letting in 1 goal v rochdale and I dont think he could have done anything about it
I get what your saying, but from his personal view I'm sure losing his starting place and sitting on the bench would be a poor season.
Your right though, there's no need for the constant slagging, he's a blade. He didn't want to be not good enough and we should all wish him the best if he gets another chance in football.
 
Hanson - played the role Akinbiyi did in 2005/06.

That's a joke right? Akinbiyi (ably assisted by Colin) was f***ing shocking and his inclusion nearly cost us promotion. Hanson was a vital signing who was a big reason why we went up as champions.
 
That's a joke right? Akinbiyi (ably assisted by Colin) was f***ing shocking and his inclusion nearly cost us promotion. Hanson was a vital signing who was a big reason why we went up as champions.

No way will Hanson cream in a volley like Akinbiyis at Hillsborough. That will live long in the memory that one
 
Will there be any opportunities for our bright youngsters such as Semple, Brookes and Whiteman coming through? I would hate to think that we will have to sell our bright prospects again without seeing how the develope.
 
Systems never won a sausage. Quality players win trophies. Put ten shadow-chasing ragamuffins in the 'system' and see how it goes...

You talk a lot of sense sometimes BTL. This just isn't one of them.
No superstars in thr team thats plundered 100 points.just good players doing a job well in a good system . Huddersfields done it in the championship this season on a meagre budget but playing in a not too disimilar way
 
No way will Hanson cream in a volley like Akinbiyis at Hillsborough. That will live long in the memory that one

Hanson would have tucked away them three sitters that Shitbiyi missed in the same game though.
 
For me:
Capable - Sharp, Fleck, OConnell, Basham, Moore, Lafferty, Carruthers
Maybe/squad- Duffy, Coutts, Freeman, Clarke, Lavery

The rest gone, if Wilder decides to loan some out and see how they progress no issue with that. If he goes against what I think entirely, no issue with that either. In Wilder we trust
 
All this talk about transfer targets has got me thinking about the squad: who might make the step up and who might struggle. These are just my opinion; players in bold are ones I feel can be relatively sure of their places next season.

GK:
Moore - hasn't ever been a regular at Championship level but he was understudy to a very good goalkeeper in David Marshall. Has shown glimpses of the required ability but also a couple of weaknesses (near post in particular)
Long - poor this season and hasn't really kicked on. Can see him heading out, either on loan or permanently but as it stands, he's not performing at the required level.
Eastwood - unproven. Emergency backup at best.

DF:
Wright - Mr Consistent. A talker and an organiser who may surprise a few people if, and only if, we continue with the 3 at the back system. He won't feature if we revert to a back 4 as he lacks the pace and mobility to play in a two.
O'Connell - come on leaps and bounds this season. A Brentford supporting colleague said he was good but was always liable to make a mistake: those mistakes are becoming rarer and rarer. If he continues to progress at the rate he has over this season he'll go far.
Basham - mobile and tenacious but there's something I can't put my finger on which makes me doubt he'll be a shoe-in next season. Deserves to start in the back three though.
EEL - cult hero but his leaden footedness and lack of positional awareness means he shouldn't be pursued next season
Wilson -

WB:
Freeman - exceptional this season going forward but there are still question marks defensively as his man seems to get away from him too often. We concede a lot of goals down the opposition left and that will be targeted next season
Brayford - will he come back? Probably more defensively solid than Freeman but lacks the attacking dynamism.
Lafferty - another consistent performer. Positionally excellent but frustratingly gives the ball away playing simple passes. He's a solid squad player but no more.
Hussey - came in, played the first few games then disappeared off the face of the earth. The irony is that he is probably better suited to a wingback role in the system we're now using than the fullback role he struggled in at the start of the season

MF:
Coutts - excellent all season and looks to be back to his best. Should make the step up
Fleck - same as Coutts. Should be able to handle the step up.
Carruthers - from the sublime to the ridiculous at times: can glide past opponents like they're not then then will fail to make a 5 yard pass. With a Wilder/Knill preseason behind him he should improve.
Reed - regressed over the past two seasons but there's an opportunity for him to go out on loan back in League One next season and prove that his early promise wasn't a flash in the pan
Whiteman - exceptional on loan at Mansfield in League Two: has to take any opportunity he's given in pre-season or another loan spell beckons.

AM/Wingers:
Duffy - fades towards the end of games but always looking to make things happen. That means he loses the ball more than most. Deserves a chance but that might be limited to cameos from the bench
O'Shea - came in, scored some important goals but ultimately is he good enough? I'm not sure
Chapman - unfortunate injury but worth an enquiry for another loan spell. Boro may want him to get more games though
Done - what can I add to the discussion? His workrate is second to none, his skills are second to most.
Scougall - never really kicked on and will probably leave. Has to go down as a waste of money given he cost £400k, making him the second most expensive player in the current squad. Will probably end up at Burton.

ST:
Sharp - lethal when the ball falls to him anywhere up to 18 yards out. Has led his boyhood club to glory and will lead the side again next season. Should be looking for 10-15 goals.
Clarke - since his return from injury he's looked a different player. Strong, good in the air, clever feet and intelligent movement allied to a really nice ability to curl the ball into the bottom corner from the edge of the area. The question remains, though: can he maintain this form?
Hanson - played the role Akinbiyi did in 2005/06. He's performed well in the time he's played but he's not technically good or mobile enough to make the step up. I would imagine he'll be here until January 2018 but with limited appearances from the bench.
Lavery - grew into the season but mixes occasions of looking like a proper player with spells of not being able to control the ball. One for the future: I'd expect his appearances to be from the bench
McNulty - barely featured this season, either on loan at Bradford or back at the Lane. Terrible performance against Fleetwood seemed to make up Wilder's mind

So in summary:
Shoe-ins: Sharp, Fleck, Coutts, Basham, O'Connell
May be replaced: Moore, Freeman, Lafferty, Duffy, Wright, Clarke
Squad players: Wilson, Lavery, Carruthers
Departures: Hanson, Whiteman (l), Reed (l), Brayford, Long (l), O'Shea, Done, Hussey, Scougall, McNulty

Targets:
First XI:
Goalkeeper to challenge (and replace) Moore
Right fullback/wingback more defensively and positionally sound than Freeman
Mobile, strong centre half
Attacking midfielder with high stamina
Centre forward

Squad:
Winger(s)
Central midfielder to challenge Coutts and Fleck
Left fullback/winger better than Lafferty
All this talk about transfer targets has got me thinking about the squad: who might make the step up and who might struggle. These are just my opinion; players in bold are ones I feel can be relatively sure of their places next season.

GK:
Moore - hasn't ever been a regular at Championship level but he was understudy to a very good goalkeeper in David Marshall. Has shown glimpses of the required ability but also a couple of weaknesses (near post in particular)
Long - poor this season and hasn't really kicked on. Can see him heading out, either on loan or permanently but as it stands, he's not performing at the required level.
Eastwood - unproven. Emergency backup at best.

DF:
Wright - Mr Consistent. A talker and an organiser who may surprise a few people if, and only if, we continue with the 3 at the back system. He won't feature if we revert to a back 4 as he lacks the pace and mobility to play in a two.
O'Connell - come on leaps and bounds this season. A Brentford supporting colleague said he was good but was always liable to make a mistake: those mistakes are becoming rarer and rarer. If he continues to progress at the rate he has over this season he'll go far.
Basham - mobile and tenacious but there's something I can't put my finger on which makes me doubt he'll be a shoe-in next season. Deserves to start in the back three though.
EEL - cult hero but his leaden footedness and lack of positional awareness means he shouldn't be pursued next season
Wilson -

WB:
Freeman - exceptional this season going forward but there are still question marks defensively as his man seems to get away from him too often. We concede a lot of goals down the opposition left and that will be targeted next season
Brayford - will he come back? Probably more defensively solid than Freeman but lacks the attacking dynamism.
Lafferty - another consistent performer. Positionally excellent but frustratingly gives the ball away playing simple passes. He's a solid squad player but no more.
Hussey - came in, played the first few games then disappeared off the face of the earth. The irony is that he is probably better suited to a wingback role in the system we're now using than the fullback role he struggled in at the start of the season

MF:
Coutts - excellent all season and looks to be back to his best. Should make the step up
Fleck - same as Coutts. Should be able to handle the step up.
Carruthers - from the sublime to the ridiculous at times: can glide past opponents like they're not then then will fail to make a 5 yard pass. With a Wilder/Knill preseason behind him he should improve.
Reed - regressed over the past two seasons but there's an opportunity for him to go out on loan back in League One next season and prove that his early promise wasn't a flash in the pan
Whiteman - exceptional on loan at Mansfield in League Two: has to take any opportunity he's given in pre-season or another loan spell beckons.

AM/Wingers:
Duffy - fades towards the end of games but always looking to make things happen. That means he loses the ball more than most. Deserves a chance but that might be limited to cameos from the bench
O'Shea - came in, scored some important goals but ultimately is he good enough? I'm not sure
Chapman - unfortunate injury but worth an enquiry for another loan spell. Boro may want him to get more games though
Done - what can I add to the discussion? His workrate is second to none, his skills are second to most.
Scougall - never really kicked on and will probably leave. Has to go down as a waste of money given he cost £400k, making him the second most expensive player in the current squad. Will probably end up at Burton.

ST:
Sharp - lethal when the ball falls to him anywhere up to 18 yards out. Has led his boyhood club to glory and will lead the side again next season. Should be looking for 10-15 goals.
Clarke - since his return from injury he's looked a different player. Strong, good in the air, clever feet and intelligent movement allied to a really nice ability to curl the ball into the bottom corner from the edge of the area. The question remains, though: can he maintain this form?
Hanson - played the role Akinbiyi did in 2005/06. He's performed well in the time he's played but he's not technically good or mobile enough to make the step up. I would imagine he'll be here until January 2018 but with limited appearances from the bench.
Lavery - grew into the season but mixes occasions of looking like a proper player with spells of not being able to control the ball. One for the future: I'd expect his appearances to be from the bench
McNulty - barely featured this season, either on loan at Bradford or back at the Lane. Terrible performance against Fleetwood seemed to make up Wilder's mind

So in summary:
Shoe-ins: Sharp, Fleck, Coutts, Basham, O'Connell
May be replaced: Moore, Freeman, Lafferty, Duffy, Wright, Clarke
Squad players: Wilson, Lavery, Carruthers
Departures: Hanson, Whiteman (l), Reed (l), Brayford, Long (l), O'Shea, Done, Hussey, Scougall, McNulty

Targets:
First XI:
Goalkeeper to challenge (and replace) Moore
Right fullback/wingback more defensively and positionally sound than Freeman
Mobile, strong centre half
Attacking midfielder with high stamina
Centre forward

Squad:
Winger(s)
Central midfielder to challenge Coutts and Fleck
Left fullback/winger better than Lafferty

Interesting. I doubt given that Long was dumped Hussey-style, and kept off the bench till Ramsdale was sold, without this being an identified area for strengthening, so Moore could be less secure than others. I think he'll start, but we'll have a much stronger back-up that offers genuine competition.

JOC was error-prone in the first half of the season but seems to have ironed these out massively in the second half of the season. We'll certainly sign someone here for the first team – Wright should I think he kept in the squad.

If we continue with the formation, Freeman I think will start the season as will Lafferty. I suspect Duffy would be the one that might be benched of the midfield trio.

Essentially we need to invest in the spine of the team and aim to be signing starters in each. We urgently also need a natural winger in order to give us flexibility to change the formation.

Key question I want to know is who did Silent Blade say a few weeks back that he wanted to save till the end of the season before announcing that they'd got away with a lot this season? Come on Silent, the season's as good as done! :)
 
I know he's been excellent this season, but Basham in the Championship? If he plays anywhere down the middle, it will really limit the team.

I have the utmost respect for him. He's a model professional, motivated beyond belief and a key reason we're going up. But he is simply not as good as most of our other players and I think better opposition will find him out. Hope I'm wrong though!
 
Ok. it is Lafferty. We need someone better

I'd wondered if it was going to be an unexpected name given the keenness to keep it quiet! I think we will need to sign competition for both wings, plus a natural winger, if we're going to give ourselves good options out wide next season.

Of course most of the assessments are based on how players are now, rather than taking into account that some may unexpectedly make the step up – the likes of Morgs and Geary in the Prem had big question marks over them going in, and noticeably raised their games with the step up. We won't know for sure who those that don't make the step up when tested, though I'm sure Wilder will have a good sense of these.
 
explain the term poor season for george long

hes played in 3 league games
got beaten by a worldy at bolton no keeper would have saved we drew 1-1 with rochdale
and we lost 0-3 at home to southend due to horrific cock up all by defenders left him exposed completely

I dont get this constant berating of a player who was the previous season behind an atrocious defence
and took unnecessary blame for it

Moore has had the benefit of playing behind a solid unit , but he too has made the odd misjudgement, but gets 100 per cent benefit of the doubt

how is it a poor season when hes hardly responsible for letting in 1 goal v rochdale and I dont think he could have done anything about it
Lot of truth in what you say but long was a bag o f nerves and Wilder realised we needed another keeper who the defence had confidence In.
George is a good keeper best served I think by moving on for his careers sake. Wish him well,We,RE all blades arnt we.!!
 
Lot of truth in what you say but long was a bag o f nerves and Wilder realised we needed another keeper who the defence had confidence In.
George is a good keeper best served I think by moving on for his careers sake. Wish him well,We,RE all blades arnt we.!!
any keeper would have been a bag of nerves behind Adkins defensive set up
I know CW thinks hes a good pro , see him staying and he will come good , behind a half decent defence
 



Will there be any opportunities for our bright youngsters such as Semple, Brookes and Whiteman coming through? I would hate to think that we will have to sell our bright prospects again without seeing how the develope.
I don't think we need to be rushing any of our youngsters now we are a Championship club. I can see Whiteman going out on loan again next season, i think Brookes will go out on loan also and with Semple not expected to be fully fit until November i can see him going out on loan for the second part of the season. I think Jake Wright Jnr will go on loan all season and after that i could see all the other youngsters staying to play in the U23s.
 
explain the term poor season for george long

hes played in 3 league games
got beaten by a worldy at bolton no keeper would have saved we drew 1-1 with rochdale
and we lost 0-3 at home to southend due to horrific cock up all by defenders left him exposed completely

I dont get this constant berating of a player who was the previous season behind an atrocious defence
and took unnecessary blame for it

Moore has had the benefit of playing behind a solid unit , but he too has made the odd misjudgement, but gets 100 per cent benefit of the doubt

how is it a poor season when hes hardly responsible for letting in 1 goal v rochdale and I dont think he could have done anything about it




He made massive ricks in both the Rochdale (he was entirely responsible for their goal) and Southend games. That’s 2 out of 3 games he had a nightmare and then was dropped never to play again in the first team. That has to be considered a poor season by anyone’s standards.


I’ve stuck up for Long a lot over the years and still maintain that he has some of the ingredients to be a decent ‘keeper but to say he’s not had a poor season is laughable.
 
Have to disagree about Moore & Duffy.

Moore has had very little to do over the season but, when called upon often makes the save to keep it at 1-0 or 0-0. Other keepers may let their concentration lapse & make more mistakes. If we are under the cosh more in the Championship I reckon he'll stand up & be counted.

Duffy for me should have been in the POTY conversation. Covers a lot of ground & can find a pass with ease. Lost track of how many times he's played a pass out wide then all of a sudden he's popping up on the overlap. Tires late on but I'd say thats due to workrate. I think he'll do just fine stepping up



I’d say Duffy had a period (October- December inclusive) where he was absolutely unplayable. He was the one we would always look to for that bit of magic to prize the opposition open. He was truly fantastic during that spell. Since we’ve played with more of a target man up alongside Sharp (Hanson and Clarke) I don’t think Duffy has been quite as effective. Still good. But more 7.5 out of 10 rather than the 9 out of 10 performances he was putting in during that previous spell. Playing behind Sharp and Done seemed to suit him to a tee.
 
Will there be any opportunities for our bright youngsters such as Semple, Brookes and Whiteman coming through? I would hate to think that we will have to sell our bright prospects again without seeing how the develope.

Now we're promoted will be an interesting test for the Board .........

No longer can the famous excuses be used for parting cheaply with young prospects who are under contract ......watch this space .... o_O

UTB & FTP
 
So oxfords second goal, in this link, is O'Connells fault then?

Can't really tell on my phone. I'm assuming it's Lafferty who doesn't get a challenge in and lets the player go past him. It doesn't support your original point that he's positionally poor.
 
Can't really tell on my phone. I'm assuming it's Lafferty who doesn't get a challenge in and lets the player go past him. It doesn't support your original point that he's positionally poor.
Lafferty steps up and gets caught chasing the ball. He leaves a massive gap in which the Oxford player plays the ball into and thus an attacker has loads of time and space to finish while Lafferty isn't in position.
 
Lafferty steps up and gets caught chasing the ball. He leaves a massive gap in which the Oxford player plays the ball into and thus an attacker has loads of time and space to finish while Lafferty isn't in position.
As I say, I can't tell on my phone and I don't care enough to look at it again. Yes, you're right, I'm sure Wilder will replace him.
 
He made massive ricks in both the Rochdale (he was entirely responsible for their goal) and Southend games. That’s 2 out of 3 games he had a nightmare and then was dropped never to play again in the first team. That has to be considered a poor season by anyone’s standards.


I’ve stuck up for Long a lot over the years and still maintain that he has some of the ingredients to be a decent ‘keeper but to say he’s not had a poor season is laughable.

hes had no season

tell me then . in your expert opinion which one is entirely longs fault

Id be interested to know

 
Lafferty steps up and gets caught chasing the ball. He leaves a massive gap in which the Oxford player plays the ball into and thus an attacker has loads of time and space to finish while Lafferty isn't in position.
Sorry, my previous reply was a shit one. I've been coming down with some shit virus thing and I can't think properly, never mind analyse football on my phone.
 
With the caveat that I've seen a lot less than most posters this season, I'd say the obvious gap in the squad is a holding midfielder. I suspect there are going to be quite a few games where we will need to keep things tight - much tighter than this season - and Bash, although willing, isn't a good enough ball-player to take on that role even if he might keep his place in a back three.

Holding mids tend to divide our fan base though, see eg Thirlwell, Monty, Doyle. Would you want to do the fetch and carry role at BDTBL, knowing that if you haven't played a pinpoint pass or performed a lung-bursting box to box run in the first five minutes the cry of 'Bloggs, you're fookin' useless' will ring out?
 
With the caveat that I've seen a lot less than most posters this season, I'd say the obvious gap in the squad is a holding midfielder. I suspect there are going to be quite a few games where we will need to keep things tight - much tighter than this season - and Bash, although willing, isn't a good enough ball-player to take on that role even if he might keep his place in a back three.

Holding mids tend to divide our fan base though, see eg Thirlwell, Monty, Doyle. Would you want to do the fetch and carry role at BDTBL, knowing that if you haven't played a pinpoint pass or performed a lung-bursting box to box run in the first five minutes the cry of 'Bloggs, you're fookin' useless' will ring out?
They divide all fan bases though, not just ours. You have to accept it if you play that role.
 
Historically that kind of player gained approval by booting the opposition's 'fancy dans' up in the air. It's now much more about close-marking and/or positionally frustrating their fancy dans, inherently less stirring to watch and easy to ignore
 

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