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Just read all this article only thought it was a short one up to the pics. Whats with the 20 million transfer kity?? every manager outside the prem would love that kity. Maybe Weir doesn't think loans are the answer.
 

SwissBlade said:
Dark Ages? Were a soft touch, weve got no guile and you think that a player can control the game in the middle of the park without protection? In Ice hockey they have a role called 'the enforcer' We won't control the game in the middle without more physicality in the side. Just because I want a tougher player in the side doesn't mean that I'm taking the team back to the dark ages... Funnily enough an age which brought some success.

And so on the second point, Tony McMahon is not the answer then because he's not been red carded for us
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Are you seriously suggesting that what we're missing is a player who's a walking red card? I agree with you that we need more physicality but that is possible without recourse to the dark arts of "reducer" tackles.

On second thoughts, you're right. McMahon's not the answer because I don't think he'd have the balls to put in a really hard tackle: hence the reference to Savage. I can't stand his [McMahon's] approach and the sooner he's out of my football club the better.
 
Balham Blade said:
Are you seriously suggesting that what we're missing is a player who's a walking red card? I agree with you that we need more physicality but that is possible without recourse to the dark arts of "reducer" tackles.

On second thoughts, you're right. McMahon's not the answer because I don't think he'd have the balls to put in a really hard tackle: hence the reference to Savage. I can't stand his [McMahon's] approach and the sooner he's out of my football club the better.
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No you're missing my point....

What I'm saying is that we need someone that doesn't allow us to get bullied. Someone that puts in the hard tackles, gets in the face of the opposition and clatters them. Give the opposition something to worry about rather than the other way around. With Carlisle coming up it seems appropriate to be talking like this. We've got Flynn and Murphy...

Regarding McMahon, I agree on him. But again you've missed the point here. Who was the last player that got a red card for clattering someone? A hard tackle, a late tackle or a couple of yellows for battering the opposition. I'm not saying we need to play with 10 men but the fact that we can't think of the last player to get sent off for something like this suggests that we've not been physical enough.
 
I reckon we will be looking for upto 4 players via the loan system some with views to a permanent deal and some quite exciting ones too.
I'm going for at least one forward, a wider attacking player, centre half and potentially a full back.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
I reckon we will be looking for upto 4 players via the loan system some with views to a permanent deal and some quite exciting ones too.
I'm going for at least one forward, a wider attacking player, centre half and potentially a full back.
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Laudrup, Hamilton Ricard and Gazza?
 
SwissBlade said:
No you're missing my point....

What I'm saying is that we need someone that doesn't allow us to get bullied. Someone that puts in the hard tackles, gets in the face of the opposition and clatters them. Give the opposition something to worry about rather than the other way around.
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Yes - so long as that's secondary to their ability with the ball

With Carlisle coming up it seems appropriate to be talking like this. We've got Flynn and Murphy...
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If we score in the first 20 against Carlisle we'll win. They've even less confidence than us.

Regarding McMahon, I agree on him. But again you've missed the point here. Who was the last player that got a red card for clattering someone? A hard tackle, a late tackle or a couple of yellows for battering the opposition. I'm not saying we need to play with 10 men but the fact that we can't think of the last player to get sent off for something like this suggests that we've not been physical enough.
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Brandy's red card fits the profile but the last before that is probably Doyle's act of stupidity at Scunthorpe a year ago. I haven't missed the point - I just don't think the point is relevant. What we need is someone who can take the ball then the man, being physical while playing within the rules.
 
This is just the papers stirring something up, trying to make a story. "Ohh, new owners, they must want to fire the manager straight away because that is what nutty foreign arabic types do..."

If you listen to the audioboo interviews with the new board members, if anything it is striking how much faith they apparently have in Weir. Jim Phipps mentions Weir's recruiting a sports science expert as something them that made them think the management team had good ideas, and Selahattin Baki was adamant Weir was the man for them.

All that the papers are basing this on is Abdullah saying he doesn't like losing and we have had a bad start. Hardly a controversial stance or opinion respectively.

From Weir's point of view, he is in a difficult position - I think there must be a fair few of the current squad thinking "bloody hell with all this money coming in I'll never get a game, why bother?" Maybe Weir in tempering talk of signings is trying to make them think - "well if I get my act together, I can be a part of a good thing"? The players' confidence is clearly rock-bottom and in Weir's judgement him coming out and banging the drums of war RE new signings isn't going to help that.
 
Balham Blade said:
Yes - so long as that's secondary to their ability with the ball



If we score in the first 20 against Carlisle we'll win. They've even less confidence than us.



Brandy's red card fits the profile but the last before that is probably Doyle's act of stupidity at Scunthorpe a year ago. I haven't missed the point - I just don't think the point is relevant. What we need is someone who can take the ball then the man, being physical while playing within the rules.
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We'll agree to disagree on this one. :)

As I said before, were a soft touch. Bring in a player whose only task is to scare the shite out of teams and I don't care about his footballing abilities. Win the ball, scare the oppo and just kick the ball I any direction to one of our players so long as it maintains possession. The rest of the team can tippy tap it about the pitch.

Is Billy Whitehurst still "fit" or does he have a son
 
I'm sorry to say but all those that think a "Goalscoring" striker is going to be some kind of magic wand for us I think you're going to be disappointed. We don't create enough chances for a "Goalscoring" striker to make any difference whatsoever.

First thing we need to address if we're going to persisit with this formation is more positive fullbacks. I'd quite like to see Mcfadzean tried at left back, I would also go with Westlake at right back but we would need a quicker centre half than Harry if we do that. If the above doesn't work out then 2 positive fullbacks and a centre half with some pace is where we need to start.

Once we're creating chances and still not scoring then we can look for a "Goalscoring" striker, but personally think we have bigger issues to address first in other areas of the pitch.

How many chances did we create Staurday?
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24016510

Sheffield United: Prince Abdullah backs David Weir
New Sheffield United co-owner Prince Abdullah bin Mosaad bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has given his support to boss David Weir.
The Saudi invested in the League One side at the start of last week.
Weir's side are currently 19th in League One with just four points from their opening six league games.
"Of course he is safe. I read a lot about him before I got here and I was very impressed when I met him," Prince Abdullah told BBC Radio Sheffield.
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In this mornings Yorkshire Post, its reported our HRH saying. "We need to improve, we're not going to get promoted
unless there is major improvement. Also, "We will be active in this loan window. The team needs a striker,
so we have to bring one in.

For what its worth, in my opinion we need a central defender who is comfortable with the ball at is feet
capable of bringing it out of defence, we will then not need 2 holding midfielders.
 

"The journey starts now. I want to learn everything I can about the club in the next six to nine months. I want to see a lot of games and get educated about the city and the team."


Just like McCabe saying he hadn't seen many matches when he sacked Wilson, we now have Prince Abdullah saying he wants to get educated about the club by watching matches for the next 6-9 months.

Well, for the princely sum of £4.49 per month he could have been watching Blades matches on Blades Player ever since McCabe got him interested. That way he could have hit the ground running and know exactly what's needed.

I don't have it myself but judging by Bergen Blade's informed analysis it must be a pretty comprehensive service.
Why do these Millionaire Chairman types seem to be oblivious to it's availability?
 
The daily mail is full of made up bullshit, so no idea if it's true or not. If it is, the guy is a moron. I suspect however, it's a load of bollocks.
 
Sothall_Blade said:
Here is the same Weir quote as reported in The Sheffield Star:-

“The transfer market is not the only answer. Sometimes, you’ve got to look at yourself first.
“It’s not just a matter of bringing in new players. First and foremost you’ve got to ask yourself, what can I do better? How can I improve?"

It's an interesting example of how certain newspapers operate.
The simple removal of two key words puts an entirely different slant on what Weir actually said.
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Or equally the simple addition of two words puts an entirely different slant on what he said - I don't trust either paper so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
HoodedClaw said:
I'm sorry to say but all those that think a "Goalscoring" striker is going to be some kind of magic wand for us I think you're going to be disappointed. We don't create enough chances for a "Goalscoring" striker to make any difference whatsoever.

First thing we need to address if we're going to persisit with this formation is more positive fullbacks. I'd quite like to see Mcfadzean tried at left back, I would also go with Westlake at right back but we would need a quicker centre half than Harry if we do that. If the above doesn't work out then 2 positive fullbacks and a centre half with some pace is where we need to start.

Once we're creating chances and still not scoring then we can look for a "Goalscoring" striker, but personally think we have bigger issues to address first in other areas of the pitch.

How many chances did we create Staurday?
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Dead right that is's about much more than a striker. However, with a decent one we (he) might have created more chances, and could definitely have done better with what few chances we did create. Porter was regularly eased off the ball by the appalling Claude Davis. Taylor looked like he couldn't trap a bag of sand, and like a complete pussy when he needed to put himself in there.

But you are right, we don;t create enough. Too weak at fullback (for this style), and still playing 4th division wingers like Murphy and Flynn. And Doyle is not leader material.

UTB
 
Well, we've got a barrel of money
But we're going down, it's not funny
The gaffer's a Scot
He loses a lot
Saudi Blades
 
The Mail tend to research other paper's stories and then adapt them to suit their own style so I really wouldn't read too much into this.
 
Something needs to change, and fast.

1. Our manager is a highly-respected ex-pro defender with huge domestic and international experience, but the back four (a strength under Wilson) cannot keep out average League 1 strikers. Why are they not benefiting from his experience?
2. He brought in an expert "conditioning" coach, but the whole team fades away badly in the last third of games. Many of our players seem lightweight and too easily brushed off the ball.
3. He brought in Lee Carsley with the stated aim of setting up to win back possession quickly, but this hasn't happened in any of the games or highlights I've seen (bar some of the Notts Co. game where we were up against 10 men). Other teams seem able to cut through our midfield with ease - where's the fight?
4. We seem intent on sticking to 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 despite not having anyone who can play up front on their own, or wingers that can beat a man and get a cross in, or full-backs that overlap. Who's supposed to be creating the chances?
5. The pattern of play was built around one individual - who was promptly sold. Although one thing in Weir's favour is that I would rate Baxter as a more than adequate replacement (if not in exactly the same role).
6. We've now played 6 League games and I don't think Weir & his team have a clue what his best 11 is.
7. There's no Plan B - on Saturday Rotherham realised their set-up was wrong and changed it. We seem incapable of doing that.

I don't think Porter, Miller or Taylor suit the current formation, so why not try 4-4-2 just once before taking a gamble on more strikers in the loan window?
 
Balham Blade said:
Disagree entirely. We need someone who can control the game in the middle of the park, not someone who'd take football back to the dark ages.

As for your red card question, it's Tony McMahon. Quite how he's not yet been sent off while playing for us I don't understand. Dirty in the Robbie Savage sense of the word.
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I think our Flo, with the right players around him, will prove to be an excellent midfield general. I do not include Doyle as one of those players. We need someone much quicker in both mind and foot.
 
If true then he really must be losing the plot.

We can sign a couple more players or replace some and he turns that down? There are some decent players still kicking around that are available and experienced.
 
Seems some are desperate for the guy to fail and will jump on anything said anywhere to further their cause. The bloke should get the season no matter what happens to us. Whatever next sack him because he runs his fingers through his hair? Or perhaps sack him because he folds his arms? Doesn't run up and down the touchline with his head of fire?



Or perhaps some warm for the old master back.
 
Bladesway said:
Seems some are desperate for the guy to fail and will jump on anything said anywhere to further their cause. The bloke should get the season no matter what happens to us. Whatever next sack him because he runs his fingers through his hair? Or perhaps sack him because he folds his arms? Doesn't run up and down the touchline with his head of fire?



Or perhaps some warm for the old master back.
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sounds like you do
 
alcoblade said:
Dead right that is's about much more than a striker. However, with a decent one we (he) might have created more chances, and could definitely have done better with what few chances we did create. Porter was regularly eased off the ball by the appalling Claude Davis. Taylor looked like he couldn't trap a bag of sand, and like a complete pussy when he needed to put himself in there.

But you are right, we don;t create enough. Too weak at fullback (for this style), and still playing 4th division wingers like Murphy and Flynn. And Doyle is not leader material.

I recall Claude Davis being the Pantomime villain in a red and white shirt. It's a measure of how far we have fallen, when the said Claude is made to look like a world beater. Again, if he has improved so much, why is he with Rotherham and not with us?
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Bladesway said:
Seems some are desperate for the guy to fail and will jump on anything said anywhere to further their cause. The bloke should get the season no matter what happens to us. Whatever next sack him because he runs his fingers through his hair? Or perhaps sack him because he folds his arms? Doesn't run up and down the touchline with his head of fire?



Or perhaps some warm for the old master back.
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Or perhaps he should get the sack because he fails to get anything like whay he should out of the resources at his disposal after a reasonable period in charge, like happens at every other club without such suspicion.

Your suggestion is that people are looking for fault where none is present - that's really not the case.

Would you give him a full season if results and performances continue in the same way as they have so far? Really?

I know this antagonises, but again I suggest that this is a result of you not seeing us play, and not realising just how appalling we are right now. We can agree he should get more time, but a full season no matter what ?- not a chance

UTB
 
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