Maddy Cusack - SUFC Investigation Statement

[Gavlar]

Very sad story and Morgan doesn’t come across well in the accusations.

Innocent until proven guilty though of course.

 

[Oldun]

What is the desired aim of the inquest?

It’s such a sensitive subject.

But what are the family looking for? Redactions to be removed so they can understand a fuller picture? Something more against Morgan?

It just prolongs the misery the delays. You would have hoped the club could have got ahead of this so there were time for redactions prior to the hearing.

That said, how do you get a satisfactory outcome? It’s not uncommon for folks to not get on with their boss. Some people just don’t land on the same page.

It’s just not clear to me what the aim is now. If it was for the club to take the incident seriously then that has surely been achieved. But in terms of closure, I feel for the family and don’t know how they will ever get this.

The aim of the inquest is the same as any case that goes to the coroner, to ascertain who died, where and when, and how. Nothing more. It’s not a trial. The coroner has a duty to investigate certain deaths and the family have no say in this.

 

[dexter101]

This was a really interesting post which shares some suggestions made at the inquest.

Such a sad situation and I think the only hope is lessons can be learned for all clubs to help their players.

 

[54yrblade]

Even reading the little that we see in the media about this, there seems to have been failings on many different levels.

My heart goes out to her family, friends and colleagues.

I hope it leads to real change for them, not that it's any form of consolation after such a huge loss.

 

[VonBrysonsExpress]

I had a close friend die, suddenly and unexpectedly. You want to understand why, to bring some closure but the coroner came back with an open verdict. In as much as he wasn't murdered or committed suicide, they just couldn't establish a cause of death.

Finding a cause or having an understanding can help the grieving process but from the various reports it's not likely to result in a single cause for Maddy. No less tragic, no less painful for family and loved ones.

 

[Super Furry Blades]

My heart goes out to maddies family it's absolutely awful.
However im not happy with all this looking for a scapegoat bollocks .
It's just a way of ruining another life .
I'm not sure what's going to be achieved by trying to point the blame at someone .
Nothing is going to bring this poor girl back to her family.
I was a very young soldier & we had to take an unbelievable amount of bullying & bullshit .
Maddie it seems was a very sensitive soul, so maybe the odd throwaway comments may have affected her more than most .
I dont think anyone can be blamed, it seems like people are cluthing at straws .
RIP YOUNG LADY , I HOPE YOUR FAMILY FIND PEACE .

 

[Tom Bott]

From my limited understanding from media reports, there appears to be a variety of factors both personal and professional which have contributed to the tragic outcome.

Maddy Cusack’s eating habits changed after manager’s comment, girlfriend tells inquest

The girlfriend of Maddy Cusack fought off tears as she told an inquest the late Sheffield United player felt being left out of the team was a ‘personal attack’

www.theguardian.com

Her girlfriend seems to downplay any potential negative effect of her moving to play in Lewis (Nr Brighton) that summer.
Everyone seems to prefer to blame the club and the manager.

RIP Maddy.

 

[Champagneblade]

From my limited understanding from media reports, there appears to be a variety of factors both personal and professional which have contributed to the tragic outcome.

Maddy Cusack’s eating habits changed after manager’s comment, girlfriend tells inquest

The girlfriend of Maddy Cusack fought off tears as she told an inquest the late Sheffield United player felt being left out of the team was a ‘personal attack’

www.theguardian.com

Her girlfriend seems to downplay any potential negative effect of her moving to play in Lewis (Nr Brighton) that summer.
Everyone seems to prefer to blame the club and the manager.

RIP Maddy.

Everyone who has contributed to the trial, from her parents, to her partner to her colleagues and former Manager are probably all thinking the same thing; if only I could have done more or if only I’d have known.

That seems to be a common theme that they thought she was out of sorts but didn’t know to what severity.

From the manager’s side he had some 20 people to manage. He could only pick 11 on a Saturday. As a dynamic alone that is going to create a degree of disappointment for 9 of them.

It is probably endemic of the women’s game at that level; going full-time requires full ok commitment, however unless you then achieve a high level of success, it may also create a burden financially.

Going professional as a club too, it’s quite feasible building infrastructure and support full-time would take some time.

If time came again, I’m sure all parties would like to do things differently and recognise the signs but how do you know how someone feels until you’ve walked on their shoes?

I just hope there is some closure from this though I don’t know what that can look like.

 

[calcalcal]

From my limited understanding from media reports, there appears to be a variety of factors both personal and professional which have contributed to the tragic outcome.

Maddy Cusack’s eating habits changed after manager’s comment, girlfriend tells inquest

The girlfriend of Maddy Cusack fought off tears as she told an inquest the late Sheffield United player felt being left out of the team was a ‘personal attack’

www.theguardian.com

Her girlfriend seems to downplay any potential negative effect of her moving to play in Lewis (Nr Brighton) that summer.
Everyone seems to prefer to blame the club and the manager.

RIP Maddy.

Accountability is like rocking horse shit these days

 

[Tom Bott]

Accountability is like rocking horse shit these days

Though if there are some 5 or 6 factors from various parties involved, who should be held accountable?
From what I have seen there is no single party that has contributed solely to this tragic outcome,
yet some wish to pinpoint blame.
Possibly to assuage their own feelings of guilt?
Without wishing to sound crass in such sad times individuals also have a burden of responsibility to seek help if they need it.

My understanding of this is only from the information provided by various media sources and only the coroner will be party to the full evidence provided by the parties involved.

 

[calcalcal]

Though if there are some 5 or 6 factors from various parties involved, who should be held accountable?
From what I have seen there is no single party that has contributed solely to this tragic outcome,
yet some wish to pinpoint blame.
Possibly to assuage their own feelings of guilt?
Without wishing to sound crass in such sad times individuals also have a burden of responsibility to seek help if they need it.

My understanding of this is only from the information provided by various media sources and only the coroner will be party to the full evidence provided by the parties involved.

Think you misunderstood my point, tbf wasnt very clear apologies
What im saying is everyone is pointing the finger, nobody wants to take accountability. Ever. Not just in this case but life in general. Everyone's a victim these days.
I tell my wife often one of the main reasons I married her is she takes ownership of her mistakes, so few people do these days

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Revolution]

There is some interesting reporting coming out of the inquest.

One thing to be noted is that some of the allegations against Morgan have been refuted by third party testimony.

 

[Davalon]

I've refrained from commenting on this because it's a tragic set of circumstances where there are no winners, just hopefully some lessons to be learned.

As a parent I can't imagine and that's having friends who've had to go through this and friends who've taken their own life, some recently.

However, the more I've read recently, the more uncomfortable I've felt about what's playing out.

There appears to be a number of factors and it's far from simplistic in many cases why people choose to end their own lives.

 

[Bladesman]

Maddy Cusack inquest adjourned over evidence request

Maddy Cusack died after being found unconscious at her family home in September 2023.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

Though if there are some 5 or 6 factors from various parties involved, who should be held accountable?
From what I have seen there is no single party that has contributed solely to this tragic outcome,
yet some wish to pinpoint blame.
Possibly to assuage their own feelings of guilt?
Without wishing to sound crass in such sad times individuals also have a burden of responsibility to seek help if they need it.

My understanding of this is only from the information provided by various media sources and only the coroner will be party to the full evidence provided by the parties involved.

Unfortunately, I think the club has some serious questions to answer about their safeguarding policy. They have oversight, what were they doing as a young woman suffered so badly?

 

[Tom Bott]

As someone with enough mental health experience to sink a ship, i will offer a perspective on this as someone who was once in maddies shoes. In 2019 I came close to calling it a day. Every day, id had enough.

Strangers on the internet know far more about my mental health struggles than my family ever will. Thats my choice, just like maddie made hers, and I get that because im terrified how people would react if they knew. as tragic as it is, it's the truth. I never told a soul. Nobody who knows me knows how close I was to being gone.

The club wont have known anything like the true extent of her issues. My work had no idea. I didnt take a single day off. Work, home, drink, suicidal, sleep, rinse, repeat. Doing it alone.

I sense the family feels guilt because they didnt realise how bad it was. But none of my family would have either, had i done it. Its just so sad. And unless youve been there you cant understand it.

My personal view is that it is being handled badly by just about everyone. I dont know the facts but what i do know is ive acted just like maddie did in keeping it to myself. I feel like a blame game has ensued which kinda proves how clueless people are. Its not the clubs fault, because they didnt know the full extent. Its not the family's fault, but its clear they feel guilt. Its not morgans fault. Even if he does sound like a dick. A grown adult makes their choice, a tragic one, but pointing the finger wont bring her back. Let this poor woman rest in peace.

I think this post needs highlighting.
Very sad, but very true and probably far more common than people realise.

Best wishes moving forward calcalcal and RIP Maddy.