LWB position

[hazzasufc_]

Some people really have no concept of loyality do they?

He's done well for us in the past and is an international, plus hasnt been given a chance yet due to Stevens.

More then likely the same people who moaned when we signed Sharp back and appearntly he was past it

Loyalty? Lol. He's an irishman from londonderry who came here a year ago after playing for 7 different clubs. Doubt he's here cos he's just a loyal blade who loves our club. People forget that football is a job and not a hobby.

Edit: what does Sharp have to do with this? Nice strawman argument.

 

[wizadry]

Some people really have no concept of loyality do they?

He's done well for us in the past and is an international, plus hasnt been given a chance yet due to Stevens.

More then likely the same people who moaned when we signed Sharp back and appearntly he was past it

Lafferty is decent cover for Stevens but it looks pretty obvious to me that he wants a better attacking full back for the division we are now in to push Stevens on or even take his place, Lafferty would’ve played more by now if this wasn’t the case.

 

[bonobo]

Lafferty is a limited player, but he understands the role well. A lot of players struggle at wing back, but his positioning is excellent, even if he lacks a bit of quality. When he comes into the team, we dont lose our shape and our system remains in tact,which given how we really play as a team, can to a degree be more important than comparative individual qualities. He has also made himself into something of a goal threat, again maybe a limited one, but given how we struggle with goals from midfield, I think all in all, he is a useful team member for where we are now. Having said that, looking at first choice and second choice xis, it is probably the first position calling for an upgrade. I also think we really lack the option of a wing back, who can also operate or has the qualities of an outside forward. Firstly it would give us more attacking options, which we lack, when chasing games, within the current formation...and also allow us to make a tactical change if needed...and secondly we in general lack players that can take a man on when things are tight. Stevens might just be a bit tired and Wilder not wanting to make too many unforced changes, given the lose of various other players in the midfield recently. But I think we will see Lafferty at Bolton or in the Cup.

 

[YorkBlade]

I have no problem with Lafferty but recognise he's not quite up to the standards of Stevens. Heard that Nathan Thomas was looking really sharp in training and Jonathan Buchan said on BBC Radio Sheffield that he had the most accurate and powerful shot pre-match against Sunderland. Options a plenty then, no need for another LWB purchase.

 

[mancunianblade]

Why are some people so keen to mess with the LCB and RCB position? Leave JOC right where he is and now fleck is back,Basham can revert to RCB too. Can’t stress enough how important these two positions are filled with these two players.

BBC text updates for the Sunderland game. “JOC crosses for Baldock to head in”

This is integral when we overload from CB teams can’t handle either of the two wider CBs bomb on. It’s the root of our fluidity and play.these players can’t be marked putting anyone other than JOC and Basham in these two positions seriously harms us IMO dare I say Brayford would be great in that RCB position but that ship sailed.

Sorry to rant just reading “try JOC at LWB” boils my piss and putting Jake Wright in at LCB, he wouldn’t know what to do at LCB.

Lafferty is fine as LWB cover and to be honest would be my choice to cover JOC at LCB too..

 

[Lmaobob]

Lafferty has never let us down

didn't he concede the free kick at charlton that led to their equaliser in the dying minutes?

 

[Lmaobob]

What do people see in Lafferty? Christ almighty, i'd rather have fucking Jamal Blackman at left back

 

[Lmaobob]

Some people really have no concept of loyality do they?

He's done well for us in the past and is an international, plus hasnt been given a chance yet due to Stevens.

More then likely the same people who moaned when we signed Sharp back and appearntly he was past it

an international that doesn't play

 

[Bladey McBladeface]

What do people see in Lafferty? Christ almighty, i'd rather have fucking Jamal Blackman at left back

Possibly the 100 points we amassed with him in the team, the solid consistent performances that he brought and the handful of goals too.

Apart from that, let’s play Blackman at left back.

 

[Lmaobob]

Possibly the 100 points we amassed with him in the team, the solid consistent performances that he brought and the handful of goals too.

Apart from that, let’s play Blackman at left back.

ah yeah, lafferty single handedly got us all 100 points and scored the winner in every single match in order for us to win our points. forgot about that. sorry

 

[LenTednTony]

Why are some people so keen to mess with the LCB and RCB position? Leave JOC right where he is and now fleck is back,Basham can revert to RCB too. Can’t stress enough how important these two positions are filled with these two players.

BBC text updates for the Sunderland game. “JOC crosses for Baldock to head in”

This is integral when we overload from CB teams can’t handle either of the two wider CBs bomb on. It’s the root of our fluidity and play.these players can’t be marked putting anyone other than JOC and Basham in these two positions seriously harms us IMO dare I say Brayford would be great in that RCB position but that ship sailed.

Sorry to rant just reading “try JOC at LWB” boils my piss and putting Jake Wright in at LCB, he wouldn’t know what to do at LCB.

Lafferty is fine as LWB cover and to be honest would be my choice to cover JOC at LCB too..

Took me ages to read all these! I agree with all of the above except for the Lafferty as cover for LCB. We have sufficient first choices that are good enough at RWB, LWB and the back three with Jake Wright as cover (if not starting) and a little reorganising. Also, within games, we have reshuffle cover if necessary as Bash can play RWB, JOC LWB and there is always a defending option on the bench (I hope). To say move JOC to LWB seems mental to me. He is one of the stand out centre backs of the season AND gets forward and causes defenders all sorts of problems. The wingbacks are also fast enough to cover if he, or Bash can’t get back quick enough.

Let’s hope CW and AK concentrate on what we are desperate for rather than a would like to have.

I think also, we need to move Hanson out but, I would like to see a bit more of Lavery and Evans before pushing them out the door.

Carruthers.......mmmmmm I just don’t know.

 

[Houso]

Wahey, we're back to writing off players. It never stops does it despite the regular stream of players proving people wrong over the last couple of years.

My favourite from this thread is that Ben Heneghan is "bang average" despite being brought in as a prospect and not having had the chance to prove himself in the side as yet.

Still, at least we were all right about Coutts, Clarke, Lundstram, Bash, Freeman etc etc. So there is that.

 

[hazzasufc_]

Wahey, we're back to writing off players. It never stops does it despite the regular stream of players proving people wrong over the last couple of years.

My favourite from this thread is that Ben Heneghan is "bang average" despite being brought in as a prospect and not having had the chance to prove himself in the side as yet.

Still, at least we were all right about Coutts, Clarke, Lundstram, Bash, Freeman etc etc. So there is that.

Again, another strawman argument. Ive literally said nothing about those players and have never yet you're somehow using them to prove a point. Some people really don't like hearing things that isn't in there little safe circle of opinion. Well I've said it, he ain't cut for the championship, simple as.

 

[Gavlar]

There's a difference between an average player and having a bad form. He's certainly better than Lafferty. If anything that just backs up my case. The main reason Fleck and Coutts were showing up were because the likes of Lundstram and Carruthers were breathing down their necks. If we have a better quality LWB then surely it's a better incentive for enda to fight for his place and play at his best?

I hear you mate, but disagree. Lafferty is an experienced player, had a good season last year and is worth a go in my view. In truth I dont really rate either of Stephens or Lafferty in the long run, but if Stevens isnt playing well he shouldnt be guaranteed a place. We cant know how well Lafferty will do if he isnt given a chance.

 

[Houso]

Again, another strawman argument. Ive literally said nothing about those players and have never yet you're somehow using them to prove a point. Some people really don't like hearing things that isn't in there little safe circle of opinion. Well I've said it, he ain't cut for the championship, simple as.

Did I actually say you said that about the players I mentioned? I used the collective "we" as all those players have been written off by one or another of us at some point (it was Freeman for me).

And my point was a general one rather than about Lafferty. That said, I found the assertion about a prospect like Heneghan odd given Wilder clearly likes him and he's not been brought in for the immediate future.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Don’t really agree at many of these comments.

Lafferty, Stevens and O’Connell are all very different types of left back.

Lafferty is a solid consistent “proper” fullback but we don’t play 4-4-2 using tradition fullbacks.
Instead we want the Kyle Walker types, might be a bit dodgy defending but must be able to make lots of forward runs and get in crosses.

Stevens is miles better than Lafferty at that role, although I agree Stevens seems to be playing it save recently and not over committing so much.

Doubt Occonnel could even play full back, he’s only any good becuase of the tactic of him popping up umarked and overlapping Stevens.

 

[1889]

We have a very good prospect in Rhys Norrington-Davies. Has anyone seen him play recently?

I've seen him a few times this season, I agree he is going to be a great asset, quick, energetic, hard working and intelligent player. I'd expect him to be around the first team in the next couple of years.

 

[Ihadadream]

I've seen him a few times this season, I agree he is going to be a great asset, quick, energetic, hard working and intelligent player. I'd expect him to be around the first team in the next couple of years.

He hasn’t made the strides forward I expected from him this year at such a rate as he did last year so I don’t expect to see him anytime soon around the first team....probably go out on loan at a quess next season for my money