Let's not lose sight of the fact

[Stretch]

I think it would be hard to get much worse
But see how our first win...when it comes changes things

Yep well said. I am also of the opinion that confidence will stream back with a win, but the longer this goes on, the harder it will be to come by.

 

[Le Cynique]

So when were you promoted to the all seeing eye of the future
You can't know if a McGoldrick shot going 5 yards wide won't get deflected in v man utd
Or Brightons keeper kicks one straight to Mousset

It could be all we need to change the belief

I'm not.

But y'know what, if you think that having to rely on luck just to keep us in the running for staying up is in any way acceptable given the amount of money that we've spent, then you knock yourself out, pal. We're never going to agree.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Highfield as I said before, I admire your optimism, but I can't see that our performances will improve enough to win enough games to get out of this. We'll hopefully improve to become competitive, maybe get to around 20 points, but beyond that I can't see any possibility of staying up, unless we are able to sign two players that have a similar impact that Glynn Hodges did in 1991 but by the end of December when the window is about to open we could well be on about 5 points, we may have more granted, but by then everyone else will be on much more also, possibly with West Brom as an exception. They're the only team that I see as worse than us. I don't think its doom and gloom for fans to predict we'll be relegated, sorry mate. I just hope we refrain from over the top comments on here, ultra critical etc. I hope Wilder stays also, that seems a realistic hope even where we are now, but even Wilder must be totally drained from this.

That's fair enough, booker, but all it takes is a couple of results to go our way and the self-belief comes back. You wait and see - when that happens, we'll have threads like "Have we turned a corner?", "The Great Escape is on", "An open apology" (from the doubters and wrist-slashers).

 

[Houston_Blade]

That's fair enough, booker, but all it takes is a couple of results to go our way and the self-belief comes back. You wait and see - when that happens, we'll have threads like "Have we turned a corner?", "The Great Escape is on", "An open apology" (from the doubters and wrist-slashers).

If I thought we were going to turn a corner then I'd have penned an apology in waiting. 12 points, that's the limit of my dreams as we stand.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

If I thought we were going to turn a corner then I'd have penned an apology in waiting. 12 points, that's the limit of my dreams as we stand.

You can pen it up now and click on the floppy disk symbol to save the text. Then press Submit when you're ready to apologise. Hope that helps.

 

[Le Cynique]

That's fair enough, booker, but all it takes is a couple of results to go our way and the self-belief comes back. You wait and see - when that happens, we'll have threads like "Have we turned a corner?", "The Great Escape is on", "An open apology" (from the doubters and wrist-slashers).

And I suppose if we get relegated on a record low points total all the 'clappers' will be on here saying 'sorry, you guys who worried were right to do so'.

And my other car is a Ferarri.

 

[247Blade]

If we can't find our mojo will rojo do if we sign him.?
Sorry but I had to.

Wouldn't bother getting anyone in ... save some brass and start again CWs signings might be good enough for another Championship campaign ... come on we're Sheffield United we don't do easy!! UTB

 

[raul]

I think its harsh saying we don't give 100 per cent . Would like to see that 1990 team trying to cope with today's Liverpool and man city

At least three of them are still younger than Jags.

 

[Booker4]

That's fair enough, booker, but all it takes is a couple of results to go our way and the self-belief comes back. You wait and see - when that happens, we'll have threads like "Have we turned a corner?", "The Great Escape is on", "An open apology" (from the doubters and wrist-slashers).

Hope you're right Highfield. I was optimistic until Leicester, but maybe I'm unrealistic to expect results v teams like Leicester and Southampton on current form. Brighton away may be a good opportunity this weekend, but our away form is woeful this season, we are at least look competitive at home. The lack of fans is clearly a factor also and that won't change till January either. If we stay up it'll be even more remarkable than 1991.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

All form is temporary
Ive watched football for 60 years
One nice deflection in our favour for s change could change the direction

Name one team that's not had a bad run
Name one team that has never won a game in a season
Name one season where we've gone 28 games without winning

Can always guarantee on delusional posts from you. You make it sound like bad luck is the problem. It’s far, far worse than that.

 

[blade too long]

Can always guarantee on delusional posts from you. You make it sound like bad luck is the problem. It’s far, far worse than that.

What's delusional about expecting a return to form
80 per cent of our squad is the one that did well last season

I could say I can guarantee the doom saying posts from the weak minded blades with no belief

 

[Big Hitter]

Hi, Stegosaurus here

If you block me, you have a small weiner.

Reply to this message if you disagree

Hi Stegs..
I think you have a very, very small Weiner schnitzel and should take it out of your mouth occasionally

 

[pommpey]

Just because some lose faith why drag every body who have seen our players perform in this division and will return to what they are capable of , of their belief it's not over after 12 games

Been alright if everyone as the boats came back from Dunkirk said oooh that's it we can't beat these Germans they've got better arms trained soldiers and more planes
Love that never say die pompey spirit

Whilst overlooking that the root cause of Dunkirk was or total lack of organisation and technical preparedness against a far more superior adversary which drove the BEF and allied troops into a bridgehead and humiliating retreat across a physical divide to escape a rout.

Yeah, the parallels of us being thrashed every week as our demoralised soldiers take hit after hit whilst their generals tell us we are fighting valiantly whilst looking at that physical divide - relegation - are totally evident. As is the fact that it took the UK four years of being smashed on their home turf and a rescue package from a rich ally to reverse their fortunes. In fact, that's the decline, post Warnock, isn't it?

Never, ever try to align military strategy and history to football with me B2L. There's a good chap.

Keep clapping. We'll prepare the surrender documents and wait for the little ships of the Championship.

pommpey

 

[blade too long]

Whilst overlooking that the root cause of Dunkirk was or total lack of organisation and technical preparedness against a far more superior adversary which drove the BEF and allied troops into a bridgehead and humiliating retreat across a physical divide to escape a rout.

Yeah, the parallels of us being thrashed every week as our demoralised soldiers take hit after hit whilst their generals tell us we are fighting valiantly whilst looking at that physical divide - relegation - are totally evident. As is the fact that it took the UK four years of being smashed on their home turf and a rescue package from a rich ally to reverse their fortunes. In fact, that's the decline, post Warnock, isn't it?

Never, ever try to align military strategy and history to football with me B2L. There's a good chap.

Keep clapping. We'll prepare the surrender documents and wait for the little ships of the Championship.

pommpey

Actually the French had more soldiers and tanks than the Germans. Just poor decisions to be defensive opposed to attacking.
They left the ardenne exposed for a simple quick thrust
In charge for the French were people who gave up at the early setback

Some people give up far too easily don't they

 

[Yoonited]

Jesus.

There's optimism where hope is available, and then there's denial where there isn't.

With twelve played this season, eleven lost, shipping 21 goals for 5 scored and the most abysmal method of approaching the game, where's the hope?

pommpey

Hope isn't necessarily driven by evidence though is it. I thought for only the second time this season we were utter dogshit. But I've seen enough in other games to give me hope. But then I'm always optimistic and feel life's more fulfilling around others sharing that optimism and enthusiasm. I avoid at work those I can guarentee want to share their doom and gloom. If they choose that,nothing I say will change it.
So I hope we get 9 points from the next three. Whether or not others think that 'realistic' is of no consequence to me. Won't stop me hoping pommpey.

 

[kevreedy]

Wilder need to do what he did after the Millwall game in 2016.
Get to the nearest off-license and buy a load of beer.
Oh is that allowed probably not.
Fucking lockdown.

 

[pommpey]

Actually the French had more soldiers and tanks than the Germans. Just poor decisions to be defensive opposed to attacking.
They left the ardenne exposed for a simple quick thrust
In charge for the French were people who gave up at the early setback

Some people give up far too easily don't they

As said ' total lack of organisation and technical preparedness against a far more superior adversary'.

That is us, to a tee.

And faced with far better readiness for war, better leadership and directives in the field, and vastly superior equipment, The German advances were largely unopposed.

See Sunday's game?

That.

pommpey

 

[blade too long]

Actually the French tanks were considered better overall the Germans only had 100 of the new mark 4 . The difference are the Germans attacked in panzer groups whilst the french scattered their tanks thinly and had not really trained well enough

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

What's delusional about expecting a return to form
80 per cent of our squad is the one that did well last season

I could say I can guarantee the doom saying posts from the weak minded blades with no belief

I say what I see. If you don’t like that, that’s your problem, old boy.

 

[Mumbo]

As said ' total lack of organisation and technical preparedness against a far more superior adversary'.

That is us, to a tee.

And faced with far better readiness for war, better leadership and directives in the field, and vastly superior equipment, The German advances were largely unopposed.

See Sunday's game?

That.

pommpey

Lost the battle,won the war,now where the hell is John Wayne?

 

[Ecco1889]

I hope CW had the players in today,watched the video and then on the training ground to sort it..
my take is that after 10-15 mins we try not to lose a game rather than win it,go a goal down and we’re fucked
a few things to work on and maybe consider...
1.Cut out the negative can’t go toe to toe shit...we’ve lost before we kick off
2. Back line 10 yards too deep..we hoof the ball clear and it’s coming straight back
3.The ball retention of our team is poor,but our midfields is truly abysmal(this is a big problem for us at present,sort this out and we can improve things straight away)
4.No shots on target in a match ffs,we used to attack and defend as a unit,the gaps between defence and midfield,and midfield and attack are too big,all stuff we can work on
5. We were brilliant at pressing and stifling teams,giving them little or no space...what’s happened?
all common sense and realistic elements in a game that management and players should be focusing on..
our fear of losing atm is killing us

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Actually the French tanks were considered better overall the Germans only had 100 of the new mark 4 . The difference are the Germans attacked in panzer groups whilst the french scattered their tanks thinly and had not really trained well enough

How did the French airforce stack up?

 

[pommpey]

Actually the French tanks were considered better overall the Germans only had 100 of the new mark 4 . The difference are the Germans attacked in panzer groups whilst the french scattered their tanks thinly and had not really trained well enough

And if the French fought that war again, tomorrow, with the same kit and the same tactics, they'll be beaten and still the counter attack into the low countries will end in a rout.

Do you see where your analogy, rather than rambunctiously affirming resolve and grit, is simply underlining the incapability and 'late in the day for the rally-cry' stupidity of this whole baseless exercise?

Face the truth, why don't you?

pommpey

 

[BushBlade]

Lost the battle,won the war,now where the hell is John Wayne?

Making films in Hollywood whilst some of his contemporaries were actually in the armed forces.

 

[BobblesBlade]

THAT

 

[blade too long]

I say what I see. If you don’t like that, that’s your problem, old boy.

No problem I see it different that's all
I look for positives and possibilities
Try not to throw in the towel in round one

And if the French fought that war again, tomorrow, with the same kit and the same tactics, they'll be beaten and still the counter attack into the low countries will end in a rout.

Do you see where your analogy, rather than rambunctiously affirming resolve and grit, is simply underlining the incapability and 'late in the day for the rally-cry' stupidity of this whole baseless exercise?

Face the truth, why don't you?

pommpey

What truth
We've only played 12 games is the only truth

 

[pommpey]

What truth
We've only played 12 games is the only truth

So there's no truth in that eleven of those games have been lost?

How about one, solitary point?

Anchored at the foot of the Premier League?

What about other clubs slowly drawing away from us?

Would you say there's some truth in all of Wilder's acquisitions being poor value for money?

Is our form relegation-bound?

Your truths are plainly ones you choose to overlook. This is called denial.

pommpey

 

[Danetheblade]

I see it completely differently.

The situation can be turned to our advantage. Unlike other clubs who will cling to their hope of survival until it's arithmetically impossible, we can now accept our impending doom five months early.

That gives those in charge plenty of time to plan for the forthcoming season in the division below. Hawk around those who may still have some transfer market value left, and prepare to bring in good quality Championship-ready players on sensible contracts.

I hope that they don't throw more money away on players that will be of little use, on PL salaries, only to have to try and ship them out again in June.

In some respects this abysmal run has been a blessing - and yes, it's taking a lot of effort to see the positive. But there is an opportunity there.

Okay. And what's the positive?

 

[blade too long]

What about other clubs slowly drawing away from us
pommpey9

There's the rub
Is it insurmountable
Some saying we are doomed say Wednesday can still save themselves in a similar scenario

I find that baffling

 

[Bruce Wayne]

No problem I see it different that's all
I look for positives and possibilities
Try not to throw in the towel in round one

What truth
We've only played 12 games is the only truth

Only played 12 games? That's almost a third of the season and we have 1 point (lucky one at that) and only 5 goals scored. Even Houdini couldn't escape from this situation.