Lessons to be learn't by Simon Lappin

[Fiery Blade]

Simon Lappin is the latest of our flops to come out in the press saying what the fans want to hear - Unfortunately that's all they do - week in week out they turn in unacceptable performances, individual errors, lacking passion, effort and commitment and think by coming out and stating the obvious that all's going to be well!

Sorry Simon, but we've heard it all before from Doyle, Collins, Maguire, McMahon, Hill et al - Sorry guys your performances fall well below the acceptable level and no amount of rhetoric will change it - it has to be done on the field.

At present if Doyle, Collins and McMahon spent more time looking at themselves instead of bollocking those around them we would be a far better side.

Football history can illustrate so many sides that were 'too good to get relegated' - watch a dvd of any game this year lads - you're not too good to go down - at present you're sh!te and not making any impression of getting any better !!

Lappin finishes his article with 'Fortunately, we've got enough quality here to bounce back and go on a long run' - Can I perhaps suggest you all go on a long run and don't come back !

 

[Bladesman]

Back to Cardiff with him then.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Actually, he's not the worst, but, he is one paced and steady - not ideal for a creative midfielder (where he's been asked to play)
His dead ball kicking again is not the worst

I was thinking along the lines of Doyle, McMahon, Westlake, Williams, Collins, Porter, Flynn, Murphy, Cuvelier Taylor, King McFadzean and Baxter

 

[Racy]

Actually, he's not the worst, but, he is one paced and steady - not ideal for a creative midfielder (where he's been asked to play)
His dead ball kicking again is not the worst

I was thinking along the lines of Doyle, McMahon, Westlake, Williams, Collins, Porter, Flynn, Murphy, Cuvelier Taylor, King McFadzean and Baxter

I was expecting him starting on the left side of midfield/wide think hes done ok there lately.

Strokes balls into the channels, good dead ball striker, rarely wastes a ball.

Why did Clough change it Saturday to me straight swap White for Hill

 

[blader]

Simon Lappin is the latest of our flops to come out in the press saying what the fans want to hear - Unfortunately that's all they do - week in week out they turn in unacceptable performances, individual errors, lacking passion, effort and commitment and think by coming out and stating the obvious that all's going to be well!

Sorry Simon, but we've heard it all before from Doyle, Collins, Maguire, McMahon, Hill et al - Sorry guys your performances fall well below the acceptable level and no amount of rhetoric will change it - it has to be done on the field.

At present if Doyle, Collins and McMahon spent more time looking at themselves instead of bollocking those around them we would be a far better side.

Football history can illustrate so many sides that were 'too good to get relegated' - watch a dvd of any game this year lads - you're not too good to go down - at present you're sh!te and not making any impression of getting any better !!

Lappin finishes his article with 'Fortunately, we've got enough quality here to bounce back and go on a long run' - Can I perhaps suggest you all go on a long run and don't come back !

I agree with your point, as this is common, but to have a go at lappin is a bit harsh. It isn't his fault he isn't playing that well, the guy's a left back playing in centre mid for god's sake, it's clough's decision to play him there which astounds me. He isn't a world beater, but he isn't a centre mid, so I am not blaming him massively.

 

[Grecian2000]

Strokes balls

has this turned into a "why is Doyle still in the team" thread?

 

[Fiery Blade]

I agree with your point, as this is common, but to have a go at lappin is a bit harsh. It isn't his fault he isn't playing that well, the guy's a left back playing in centre mid for god's sake, it's clough's decision to play him there which astounds me. He isn't a world beater, but he isn't a centre mid, so I am not blaming him massively.

Wasn't blaming Lappin directly, just the way that he is the latest in the line to come out with 'We are far too good to go down' message
All I would say is for the lot of them to button it 'No Comment' would suffice and get on with improving themselves to play at a level that they think they are capable of playing at' - Clearly third division is far too high for most of them !

 

[Racy]

has this turned into a "why is Doyle still in the team" thread?

Bit criptic for me G2000

 

[Kenilworth]

I can't understand why Lappin is in the team ahead of McGinn. Both can take a good set play but McGinn seems to make the midfield tick in a way that Lappin doesn't. Also McGinn is our player and Lappin is a loan.

Suggests to me that McGinn is surplus to requirements and Lappin will be our first signing in the JTW - not sure I agree with that.

Also if Lappin has the shirt then that means that Cuvellier and Baxter are not in any plans.

We still have quantity over quality and no sustained signs of improvement. Same mistakes being made and lack of bottle being displayed. We are a soft touch and the opposition knows it. Oh for a younger Morgs to lead the way.

 

[Bergen Blade]

I agree with your point, as this is common, but to have a go at lappin is a bit harsh. It isn't his fault he isn't playing that well, the guy's a left back playing in centre mid for god's sake, it's clough's decision to play him there which astounds me. He isn't a world beater, but he isn't a centre mid, so I am not blaming him massively.

Lappin played well in central midfield in the second half at Shrewsbury. I think he can play there, but to play him alongside Doyle is a poor idea, they will be trying to do the same job. I'd like us to play with one holding playmaker and one box to box player, with these options:

Holding playmaker: McGinn, Lappin, Doyle
Box to box player: Coady, Cuvelier, (McGinn)

McGinn could possibly do both roles, but I'm not quite convinced he's got the engine/mobility to get up and down the pitch. He looks disappointingly slow at times. Baxter is not an option in central midfield at the moment. He's just not fit enough, and even if that changes I'm not sure central midfield is his position.

 

[Dnblade]

I though Lappin put in some good corners and Free kicks on Saturday,also got a shot at goal which the keeper touched out for the first of a series of corners which resulted in Porter's goal.
The problem seemed to be that when he did receive the ball in the midfield,he passed sideways and backwards which resulted in one of the Back Line (usuall Harry)launching it to Porter which worked some of the time(first half), or White on the wing which never worked,and it was puzzling why we were not getting the ball on the floor against a team of giants.Surely the ball up in the air suited them and we had a bench full of ball playing midfielders.Baxter came on and passed the ball,and although he over hit a couple of crossfield passes..he did ok,and they were penned in and it caused them a few problems.
Anyway back to Lappin..I'd prefer him on the left hand side putting quality balls into the box and have White at LB,and getting up in support.Then stick Baxter if he's fit,or Mcginn in the middle.

 

[super_pig]

the guy's a left back playing in centre mid for god's sake, i.

the whole team are failed left backs playing in midfield.. we dont' actually have a proper left back.. go figure

 

[Wards]

I think McGinn can do the holding role better than any of the others so no need to play Lappin in there. Put him on the left if needs be with White behind him.

An ideal centre midfield would consist of McGinn and Coady at the moment, with Cuvelier getting an opportunity to do the box to box role alongside McGinn if Coady doesn't impress.

For away games I'd like to see us set up 4-4-1-1 with Baxter in the hole behind Miller.

 

[SBSP]

We have so many central midfielders but choose to play other people out of position there??

Personally if we are playing 4-4-2 for the middle at home I would play Doyle (who even with constant abuse has been one our better performers this season - not saying much) with a more attack minded partner - Cuvelier or Baxter.

If we need to be a bit more solid away I'd put McGinn with him who offers something going forward but is a bit more willing to get stuck in when needs be.

Lappin had the worst debut I have ever seen and am still not sure what posiotn he sees himself as playing. Will be glad when his loan is up as it is a waste of money for an already overpopulated position (LB or CM).

Coady hasn' done anything noteworthy since he came, just a few pointless runs in to the corner. Think he has got a bit carried away with the hype.

 

[Kenilworth]

Lappin had the worst debut I have ever seen and am still not sure what position he sees himself as playing. Will be glad when his loan is up as it is a waste of money for an already overpopulated position (LB or CM).

I think you will be pleased to know that Lappin will become a permanent signing when his loan finishes.

Clough likes his attitude and sees his set piece delivery (which to be fair has been good over the last few games) as a critical element to the success or otherwise of this current squad. The number of clear chances created from open play are so limited with the lack of pace and direction in the team that set pieces are probably the only way we will win any games. The way the defence is playing at the moment we will need to score two to win any game and if we fail with set pieces we will not achieve that.

 

[SBSP]

I think you will be pleased to know that Lappin will become a permanent signing when his loan finishes.

Clough likes his attitude and sees his set piece delivery (which to be fair has been good over the last few games) as a critical element to the success or otherwise of this current squad. The number of clear chances created from open play are so limited with the lack of pace and direction in the team that set pieces are probably the only way we will win any games. The way the defence is playing at the moment we will need to score two to win any game and if we fail with set pieces we will not achieve that.[/U]

Unless Lappin improves dramatically over the next month I'll be gutted if we waste money on him.

We can't afford the luxury of player who takes an ok free kick but offers nothing else. We need 11 players who can all contribute to open play as well as the set pieces.

Also with the players I mentioned both McGinn and Baxter are (I think) better than Lappin at set pieces.

 

[Kenilworth]

Unless Lappin improves dramatically over the next month I'll be gutted if we waste money on him.

We can't afford the luxury of player who takes an ok free kick but offers nothing else. We need 11 players who can all contribute to open play as well as the set pieces.

Also with the players I mentioned both McGinn and Baxter are (I think) better than Lappin at set pieces.

McGinn, I agree with - and I agree he contributes more in other areas.

Baxter - totally unconvinced. Disinterested, not fit enough, lackadaisical - He's not going to bust a gut for the shirt (nobody since Morgan does)

 

[BerksBlade]

Baxter - totally unconvinced. Disinterested, not fit enough, lackadaisical - He's not going to bust a gut for the shirt (nobody since Morgan does)

He's more likely to bust a shirt for the gut!