Leaving Early = Lost the Fanbase = Doomed?

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After the 5-1 defeat to Newcastle in 23/24, Wilder said, talking about the fans ...

“Rightly so they’ve walked out on games, in games that I’ve been managed as well, and I’ve got absolutely no issue about that because it hasn’t been good enough but it will be good enough next year. It will be 100% be good enough next year. They won’t be walking out, they will be there in the stands home and away and we’ll get it right and we’ll get the club back where it should be.”

And he was right, TBF

I wasn't worried about this season once Wilder came back, even with it taking us a bit longer to get going. I wasn't even worried as I walked out of Deepdale. Mad games happen sometimes in football. But I hadn't considered that he may lose the match-going fans. Fans leaving early is a stab in the heart for Wilder. It always has been. Now I'm really worried!
 

Just symptomatic of modern days 'supporters' mate.
Most want entertaining and success or at worst a last minute equaliser.
They'll stay for that, but as soon as it's deemed a lost cause, they're gone.
Trouble is, the bar keeps getting lowered.
And that's not a 'we should stay at all costs' dig.
It's happening througout the sport, at least in those areas/teams where they've had a taste of entitlement success.
 
Foxy said:
Didn't leave early, had mentally checked out early though.
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I get that Foxy, especially after what we've been through and where we're still (and will be for some time) at.
After CoH's goal, I allowed myself to think we might be able to rescue something from the game.
Sadly though, that kind of battling performance that we used to enjoy seems a long, long time ago now.
"This side never knows when it's beat' used to be said about us.
Nowadays, these players seems to know, and that's usually not long after the first goal goes in!
 
The fans fight to stay and get behind the team is reflective of the fight on the pitch

Players on pitch threw towel in (oHare aside) as did wilder - putting on an out of sorts DM at RB against that winger was fuckin crazy, matos is a nobhead for grabbing the ball (x3), but he shouldn’t have been in that position for the penalty in the 1st place.
 
GreasyChipBeattie said:
Just symptomatic of modern days 'supporters' mate.
Most want entertaining and success or at worst a last minute equaliser.
They'll stay for that, but as soon as it's deemed a lost cause, they're gone.
Trouble is, the bar keeps getting lowered.
And that's not a 'we should stay at all costs' dig.
It's happening througout the sport, at least in those areas/teams where they've had a taste of entitlement success.
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It’s not entitlement, it’s one of the few ways supporters can display to the owners, manager and players that what has been served up is totally unacceptable.

Fans will stay to the end in a tight game - see Wolves in the prem season when we were getting turned over every week, but when the club is just going through the motions why should it be the fans job to drag them out of it?

Said it loads during the last prem season, if the team can’t be arsed, why should the fans?
 
I wasn't surprised but disappointed at the mass exodus when we went 3 down. In contrast I liked it when Blackburn did similar the other week
 
Cappy said:
After the 5-1 defeat to Newcastle in 23/24, Wilder said, talking about the fans ...

“Rightly so they’ve walked out on games, in games that I’ve been managed as well, and I’ve got absolutely no issue about that because it hasn’t been good enough but it will be good enough next year. It will be 100% be good enough next year. They won’t be walking out, they will be there in the stands home and away and we’ll get it right and we’ll get the club back where it should be.”

And he was right, TBF

I wasn't worried about this season once Wilder came back, even with it taking us a bit longer to get going. I wasn't even worried as I walked out of Deepdale. Mad games happen sometimes in football. But I hadn't considered that he may lose the match-going fans. Fans leaving early is a stab in the heart for Wilder. It always has been. Now I'm really worried!
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Worst thing about this is I have absolutely no memory of us losing 5-1 to Newcastle, apparently as recently as two years ago.

I left after their third goal yesterday (🐀), I just had better things to do with my afternoon than watch another 30 minutes of nothing happening very slowly and this meant I could get there sooner

Not making a song and dance about it. They've already got my money, feel like they need to earn my time a lot better than that.
 
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These players brought in this year just don't appear to gel with the fans like in the past. When you hear bash talk about going out for coffee together and the friendships between the group this just doesn't look like it's happening with this group. They aren't a team just a team of individuals doing their own thing
 

Houston_Blade said:
His schtick about ‘uniting the fans and players’ seems to have fallen by the wayside this season. Even he now realises we’re a pathetic team with apathetic supporters.
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I fear that is bang on. There is currently next to no connection between this squad of players and the supporters, and it is one of the reasons that I’ve been of the opinion for weeks, that we will be relegated.

Even if these players have the fight in them - which is highly doubtful - the fans are not going to be the ones to rouse them and get them to show it. Whether it’s the cumulative effect of recent constant let-downs and opportunities missed, or whether it’s just the very apparent absence of belief in this team’s abilities, the fans do seem resigned. The fall-off in numbers attending away matches speaks volumes.

And, I completely understand it. A parachute club simply should not be losing 10 games out of 13 in the Championship. It just shouldn’t happen and it suggests something irreparably rotten within this squad.

Outside of Coventry, it is a division full of mediocre sides who are getting the better of us week in week out, simply by having Championship stalwarts who are being organised and doing the basics. I can’t think of a single opposition player who has caught the eye this season.

Outside of Hamer and O’Hare, I would be completely indifferent to the whole lot being cleared out. I’m trying to think of when I last felt like that about our team. You think back to nadirs of the past. But, even in the 1980/81 relegation to the 4th division, I liked Kenworthy. And, McPhail. And, I loved Bob Hatton.

Perhaps, it is just because I was younger…
 
I live in the States and a 3:00pm game is 7:00am for me so by 9:00am the weekend's either off to a good start, or down the pan. It'd be the easiest thing in the world to turn the TV off and just not bother but it's not what I do, I want to watch the whole game and win, lose or draw its my team and it just feels like I'm doing my bit.

As to this season's squad? I don't think they've checked out, I just think they're mostly crap footballers. It looks like they aren't trying but the sad thing is, they are. They're just poor players, poorly trained and set up to fail with that negative one up front, sidewards and backwards passing, even when we're two nil down and offering nothing. Mee and McGuiness are as bad as Robbo and Bindon. Seriki isn't great but he's a right sided defender and as good as owt we've got, certainly better than sticking Tanganga there who's being made to look bad. We're a real soft touch in midfield with no leader, Soumare may come good, Sydie needs an adult to guide him and O'Hare apart the rest have been pitiful. Our strikers aren't great and made to look even worse ploughing that lone farrow up front. That part's on the manager who looks like he's new at the job playing a ridiculously negative formation and asking bang average players to play it.

If we stay up we'll be lucky but with parachute money gone and our ambition seemingly gambling on has beens and hopefuls, God knows what the future brings. At the moment I'd be happy to do a Preston, mid table till we get some stability then hope and pray we find the winning formula again. Where's a Prince when you need one?

UTBFTP 👊👊👊
 
I stay to the end of the 0-8 because they never gave up . Likewise with the lost cause 5-5 at Swindon in play off when most fucked off after 20mins . I never boo the team ever but I was done yesterday and my piss was boiling when I saw the team sheet . I go home and away and think sometimes you need to show enough is enough otherwise how do the powers address the situation. The supporters are the stakeholders long term not bit part actors in a tv show . I don’t care for stay away fans who only show up when we are good . I’ve seen it all with us and will be at QPR but im not having us fans taken for granted. Sorry
 
Stayed until some time in added time (I really can’t stand walking down Bramall Lane as the away fans are coming out if they’ve won) but I’ll never begrudge anyone for having enough of watching that once we’re 3-0 down.
 
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I stayed until the final whistle. I too thought when we pulled one back we might see the unthinkable. Instead, i was rewarded with a solitary shot off target for that extra 25 mins.

Sums up this club at the moment.
 
The safe standing is a great addition and is working really well.

It's a piece of piss to walk out early now as no one gets disturbed.

Well done United 👍

utb
 
I never leave early*. That said, I mentally checked out in August (if not May), so I’ve got no argument with people voting with their feet. It’s been a poor watch for almost a year, so with a drop in quality and results, it’s hard to argue with people deciding they have better places to be.

* I didn’t even turn up yesterday
 
I suppose my point, however badly made, was…

If Wilder loses/has lost the crowd, are we doomed? I’m not sure he operates well in that environment.
 
Cappy said:
I suppose my point, however badly made, was…

If Wilder loses/has lost the crowd, are we doomed? I’m not sure he operates well in that environment.
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Not sure that he has lost the crowd (yet), some of the players have though. He seems to have lost a lot of S24SU - and I suspect the ones we're not hearing from (like me) have their misgivings. I don't think Wilder copes well when losing - did that not happen in the Premier League?
 
GreasyChipBeattie said:
Just symptomatic of modern days 'supporters' mate.
Most want entertaining and success or at worst a last minute equaliser.
They'll stay for that, but as soon as it's deemed a lost cause, they're gone.
Trouble is, the bar keeps getting lowered.
And that's not a 'we should stay at all costs' dig.
It's happening througout the sport, at least in those areas/teams where they've had a taste of entitlement success.
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I'm not sure it's a modern thing, I've been going for over 30 years and people have always left early.

Not me, obviously, I actually like the club, but others.
 
Cappy said:
I suppose my point, however badly made, was…

If Wilder loses/has lost the crowd, are we doomed? I’m not sure he operates well in that environment.
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Not sure what 'losing the crowd' means really. Some of us stay to the end, some don't. Some sing and clap, some grumble and boo. It's always been that way, the only difference now is for us, I honestly think a large portion of our fan base has PTSD after that God awful Premier League season. Seriously, we're playing shit, we go two nil down and the nightmare returns.

We've had teams that still gave us hope despite being up against it, this one doesn't. We're fucking terrible truth be told.
 

Loco Blade said:
I stay to the end of the 0-8 because they never gave up . Likewise with the lost cause 5-5 at Swindon in play off when most fucked off after 20mins . I never boo the team ever but I was done yesterday and my piss was boiling when I saw the team sheet . I go home and away and think sometimes you need to show enough is enough otherwise how do the powers address the situation. The supporters are the stakeholders long term not bit part actors in a tv show . I don’t care for stay away fans who only show up when we are good . I’ve seen it all with us and will be at QPR but im not having us fans taken for granted. Sorry
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I'd never left early either. Stayed to the end of those games and yesterday. Although that 8 and various other batterings changed the mindset a bit. Me and my son agreed that we'd call it a day once the opposition got 5 and started to leave early for the first times ever.

Wanted to leave at 15mins and go to the pub when Arsenal went 3 up 😂. He said no the agreed time is 5. So off we went to the pub on 39 mins.

I can take us being shit. I can take batterings. But was soul destroying watching the Blades get beat by 5/6 and more every week. Just didn't have the stomach for it 😂
 
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