Last 6 managers win percentage league table

[Sothall_Blade]

I am surprised his record wasn't better, considering the squad at his disposal

Well, I don't think you can criticise his record in the season when he first took over and took us from the bottom half to 8th.
The following season he had to reduce the wage bill and sell the likes of Hulse, Armstrong, Tonge and Beattie to bring in a transfer profit. He still got us to 3rd.
The season after that he was forced to rebuild the entire defence after the loss of Kenny, Naysmith, Naughton, Walker and Kilgallon. We finished 8th.
I think on the whole you couldn't reasonably expect much better results than those he achieved with the squads at his disposal in each season.

What you can criticise him for is firstly the unattractive and generally negative style of play.
Secondly, that he took a very short-term approach to recruitment when trying to replace the players he was forced to sell.
I.e. Bringing in around 11 loan defenders last season, rather than buying one or two permanent replacements.
How much of this was down to him and how much was down to "The Board" is open to debate
But a stronger, better manager (such as Warnock) would certainly have insisted on being able to buy rather than loan so many players.

 

[SwissBlade]

Really it should be done in this div only for a better comparison, so take out the pl season and nw would stroll it I'd assume.

 

[sothall blade]

Can we get him back?

the club got it wrong there as well,selling the 2 star players again.

 

[oldblade]

Really it should be done in this div only for a better comparison, so take out the pl season and nw would stroll it I'd assume.

If you took away premier league seasons I would guess at Harris's record being pretty impressive with 2 promotions and 3rd, 4th, 9th and 6th place finishes. The win rate must be better than Warnock's or anyone else's.

I make it 127 wins in 252 matches!


Edit: Have looked at Harris's record in more detail. The above stats aren't right. He took over towards the end of 1958-9 season when we finished 3rd, but was only manager for 4 games during that season, of which we won two. So, his win rate in the 2nd division (or championship as it is now called) was 106 wins from 214 games. Or 49.5% approx.

In the first (premier) division his win rate was 144 wins from 395 games. Or 36.5% approx.

 

[Robbie]

Well, I don't think you can criticise his record in the season when he first took over and took us from the bottom half to 8th.

That season when he took over, the football and direction we were going in was great. As soon as his contract was sealed though, it all went downhill.

 

[SwissBlade]

That season when he took over, the football and direction we were going in was great. As soon as his contract was sealed though, it all went downhill.

Yeah things really went down hill.... wasn't that the downhill season where we nearly got automatic and then lost in the play off final? I hate those downhill seasons

 

[oldblade]

Yeah things really went down hill.... wasn't that the downhill season where we nearly got automatic and then lost in the play off final? I hate those downhill seasons

Yes. Fair point. The football might not have been pleasing to the eye, but the results were pretty good.

I was critical of Blackwell, and still feel that in 2008-9 if he'd been less negative we might have got automatic promotion.

What really turned me against him was the home debacle against Wednesday. The way we went about that game was incomprehensible. And just one win out of our two matches against them would have secured promotion.

That said, 3rd was not a bad finishing position. And his sacking this seaon after two league games was one of the least understandable decisions that I can ever recall being made at this club. Having allowed him the summer, he should have been given until the next transfer window. To be sacked after one league defeat was ridiculous. And had he been retained, for all my misgivings about him, I really do think we would not be relegation certainties now.

 

[Robbie]

Yeah things really went down hill.... wasn't that the downhill season where we nearly got automatic and then lost in the play off final? I hate those downhill seasons

Please see below for my response.

I was critical of Blackwell, and still feel that in 2008-9 if he'd been less negative we might have got automatic promotion.

I must add though, 3 games versus Burnley and we didn't learn from the first 2 and kept playing the same way against them, even though it clearly wasn't working.

Contrast that to the season before when we had a different approach at Turf Moor - with Cotts whipping balls in to the box, and a nice positive win.

 

[oldblade]

I must add though, 3 games versus Burnley and we didn't learn from the first 2 and kept playing the same way against them, even though it clearly wasn't working.

Contrast that to the season before when we had a different approach at Turf Moor - with Cotts whipping balls in to the box, and a nice positive win.

Isn't that Einstein's definition of insanity - trying the same thing over and over expecting a different result!

 

[SwissBlade]

Please see below for my response.



I must add though, 3 games versus Burnley and we didn't learn from the first 2 and kept playing the same way against them, even though it clearly wasn't working.

Contrast that to the season before when we had a different approach at Turf Moor - with Cotts whipping balls in to the box, and a nice positive win.

Sorry Robbie I couldn't resist the open goal there...