Kyle Walker

[Kenilworth]

Walker was taken out right in front of me at Wembley, I saw it perfectly well, I saw Mike Dean see it perfectly well, it was in the area, it was obvious, nothing given.

Me and Ken Jnr too - we both went ballistic at the non-award - we thought it was so blatant

Mike Dean = a shit Jasper Carrot

 

[Woodwardfan]

The stonewalliest of stonewall penalties of all time.

It's 6.5 years since Dean refereed a game where he didn't send off one of our players. It's 7.5 years since he reffed a game in which we didn't lose and 8.5 years since he reffed a game which we won.

I have a feeling he will be influencing our line up for Sunday tomorrow night ...................

So how many games has he reffed us in that time? And not tonight surely?!

 

[DazBlade88]

Not unless he changed his name to Kevin Friend for the day.

It was listed as Kevin Friend but Mike Dean did it after Friend was taken ill if I remember correctly.

 

[oaklandrdblade]

So how many games has he reffed us in that time? And not tonight surely?!

Unfortunately it is him

 

[JohnDenver]

The stonewalliest of stonewall penalties of all time.

I thought it was less blatant than the one in the Wigan game where Jags was judo thrown to the floor.

I don't think I even appealed for the Walker one such is my expectation in games at Wembley (and games refereed by Dean).

 

[Pinchy]

Have you personally asked Jags about whether he 'gives a toss' about the blades?
If not, it's a bit harsh to claim he doesn't care about the club who gave him a career.
Footballers aren't as heartless and cynical as some people make out.

I don't need to ask him. He hasn't mentioned SUFC at all since he left, nor has he been anywhere near a match. If I could ask the Everton player Jagielka anything it would concern his impromptu game of volleyball in his own penalty area against Wigan. He's yet to give an explanation and it's long overdue.

 

[Lt. J Dangle]

Speaking of the play off final v Burnley, does anyone else remember Mike Dean making a 'Yawn' gesture when he was warming up in front of Blades fans, some of whom were booing him?
2 good penalty shouts ignored, Soft sending off for Ward. Hendrie sent off at full time....
Not suggesting Dean had it in for us that day of

 

[UnitedBlade]

I thought it was less blatant than the one in the Wigan game where Jags was judo thrown to the floor.

I don't think I even appealed for the Walker one such is my expectation in games at Wembley (and games refereed by Dean).

Guess who reffed that fateful game v Wigan ?

 

[UnitedBlade]

It was listed as Kevin Friend but Mike Dean did it after Friend was taken ill if I remember correctly.

You are right but both the ref stats for Dean and Friend and the BBC, Sky and all newspapers reported it was Friend !

 

[UnitedBlade]

He reffed the Coventry game earlier in the season - we didn't have a man off then.

Having checked Sky's highlights you are right it was Dean. All the media reported it as Friend. I vaguely remember now there was a late replacement.

 

[borbokis]

I don't need to ask him. He hasn't mentioned SUFC at all since he left, nor has he been anywhere near a match. If I could ask the Everton player Jagielka anything it would concern his impromptu game of volleyball in his own penalty area against Wigan. He's yet to give an explanation and it's long overdue.

maybe he has united shin pads on, have you ever considered that?

 

[Tower Bridge Blade]

I've no idea whether Jags passes the fit and proper Blades test, but didn't he recently record one of the videos for the 125 years celebration on our official website and which was shown in the stadium?

I personally wouldn't bother recording a video for at least one of my ex-employers

 

[jezzablade]

I don't need to ask him. He hasn't mentioned SUFC at all since he left, nor has he been anywhere near a match. If I could ask the Everton player Jagielka anything it would concern his impromptu game of volleyball in his own penalty area against Wigan. He's yet to give an explanation and it's long overdue.

He has mentioned SUFC, he was asked in an interview early on in his Everton career if a goal he scored was his best ever to which he answered he scored a couple that were better for us. But the fact of the matter is this. Jagielka is not from Sheffield. The Blades gave him a chance and he took it in the same way that we ditched Kevin Davies and he took a chance with Chesterfield, does that mean that Kev Davies should laud Chesterfield at every opportunity? If they invited him to go back there I'm sure he would for talks and presentations when he retires as a former player. We saw something in Jags that we could utilise and we did, its not a charity, and Jags grabbed his chance and therefore made his career kick off.
Did he deliberately cheat in the Wigan match? maybe. Was it done to relegate us so that he could get a better deal? I doubt it, it was split second stuff.
Also there was much more going on that day than just a hand ball. According to Bromby the police had to come in to the dressing room to rescue Warnock from being strangled due to his pre match speech. Its why Sean Bean was so het up due to Warnock demanding a deal that morning bribing the board. The board wanted rid of Warnock after he told them their future after he thought he had the Portsmouth job in the promotion season the previous year and wouldn't offer it to him.
Jags was also kind enough to do a video for the 125 in which he thanked the Blades for getting him where he is today.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

I'll counter that with the monstrosity that was the failure to award a penalty and straight red against Heinze for taking out Luton Shelton at Old Trafford.

I call your Gabriel Heinze, and raise you a Lee McCulloch right hook.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Also there was much more going on that day than just a hand ball. According to Bromby the police had to come in to the dressing room to rescue Warnock from being strangled due to his pre match speech. Its why Sean Bean was so het up due to Warnock demanding a deal that morning bribing the board. The board wanted rid of Warnock after he told them their future after he thought he had the Portsmouth job in the promotion season the previous year and wouldn't offer it to him.

What did Bromby say and to whom? What did Warnock say in his pre-match speech? Who was going to strangle him?
How was Warnock bribing the board? Who says Portsmouth didn't offer him the job?

 

[Kenilworth]

Speaking of the play off final v Burnley, does anyone else remember Mike Dean making a 'Yawn' gesture when he was warming up in front of Blades fans, some of whom were booing him?

Yep - saw that and knew we would get nowt that day from that moment onwards - he could have just ignored it and got on with his warm up but no, like a complete twat he let his petty little prejudice get the better of him and us

 

[jezzablade]

What did Bromby say and to whom? What did Warnock say in his pre-match speech? Who was going to strangle him?
How was Warnock bribing the board? Who says Portsmouth didn't offer him the job?

You would have to go to Bulmer on Bladesmad for the dressing room bust up info. I have friends who worked closely with the club who passed on the other information. Warnock was told he had the Portsmouth job went to the board to tell them what they thought of them and then Manderic got Redknap instead.

 

[oldblade]

Yep - saw that and knew we would get nowt that day from that moment onwards - he could have just ignored it and got on with his warm up but no, like a complete twat he let his petty little prejudice get the better of him and us

I think it was Burnley who got the better of us that day, not Mike Dean. They were far, far better than us.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

You would have to go to Bulmer on Bladesmad for the dressing room bust up info. I have friends who worked closely with the club who passed on the other information. Warnock was told he had the Portsmouth job went to the board to tell them what they thought of them and then Manderic got Redknap instead.

I don't know who Bulmer is and I don't use Blades Mad.
Why can't you elaborate more on what you remember him saying, now you've raised the topic?

Strange how the board at Sheffield United allowed Warnock to remain in his job for a full 18 months after being verbally abused by him. There were plenty of opportunities for them to sack him if they were so keen to "get rid".
Did your mates at the club say why they didn't sack him sooner? Or weren't they privy to that information?

 

[sportinguista]

Speaking of the play off final v Burnley, does anyone else remember Mike Dean making a 'Yawn' gesture when he was warming up in front of Blades fans, some of whom were booing him?
2 good penalty shouts ignored, Soft sending off for Ward. Hendrie sent off at full time....
Not suggesting Dean had it in for us that day of

Soft sending off for Ward?? Ward was the soft one for gettting himself sent off in such a cheap manner. Can't blame the ref for the actions of a burk.

 

[jezzablade]

I have nothing more to do with Bladesmad. I did at that time but it was Bulmer who knew Bromby and got loads of info from him. He used to know who was coming in and leaving etc. He used the psu

Its not strange really we were in the middle of a promotion season and apparently Warnock took it all back once Bassett phoned him to tell him Redknap had the job. If you are in the middle of a promotion season you stick with what you have. Because he got us promoted and the fans were in love with Warnock at the time the board presumably took the decision that he was the best hope of keeping us up on a limited budget but that when his contract was up at the end of the season to appoint someone to take us further. They certainly didn't trust him as an unflinching Blade anymore. The board were pragmatic and like to keep things said in the board room, in the board room.

Sorry to disappoint but I haven't got any mates at the club the people I got this from work with the club at a high level but the specific mate doesn't anymore however if even a clue was given to where this came from he would be in serious trouble and I would not divulge that.

 

[Kenilworth]

I think it was Burnley who got the better of us that day, not Mike Dean. They were far, far better than us.

The score line states that they were one very decent strike better than us - that's it.
They kept the ball better once Elliot had stunned everyone with that perfect strike. Yes we had to defend well but the lads stood up to the test on that front. Defending well is still part of football. Otherwise there would be no point in lesser teams even trying.
In fact we should have had a pen in the first half - a stonewaller when Alexander clipped Howard - then the Walker incident in the second. Decisions change games. Admittedly we didn't have the class to score a goal form open play as we were light on strikers for a PoF (yet again) but to say that Mike Dean didn't have any adverse affect on that game as far as SUFC were concerned and that it was all down to Burnley's class over ours - I just can't agree.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

I have nothing more to do with Bladesmad. I did at that time but it was Bulmer who knew Bromby and got loads of info from him. He used to know who was coming in and leaving etc. He used the psu

Its not strange really we were in the middle of a promotion season and apparently Warnock took it all back once Bassett phoned him to tell him Redknap had the job. If you are in the middle of a promotion season you stick with what you have. Because he got us promoted and the fans were in love with Warnock at the time the board presumably took the decision that he was the best hope of keeping us up on a limited budget but that when his contract was up at the end of the season to appoint someone to take us further. They certainly didn't trust him as an unflinching Blade anymore. The board were pragmatic and like to keep things said in the board room, in the board room.

Sorry to disappoint but I haven't got any mates at the club the people I got this from work with the club at a high level but the specific mate doesn't anymore however if even a clue was given to where this came from he would be in serious trouble and I would not divulge that.

Did Bassett have a role at the club at the time? I didn't get the impression from NW's book that they were particularly close so surprised he would be the one delivering that news.

On the subject of autobiographies, the dressing room incident would seem a very odd thing for Keith Gillespie to not go into.in his book, particularly given their midseason falling out. Assuming it happened of course...

 

[jezzablade]

Did Bassett have a role at the club at the time? I didn't get the impression from NW's book that they were particularly close so surprised he would be the one delivering that news.

On the subject of autobiographies, the dressing room incident would seem a very odd thing for Keith Gillespie to not go into.in his book, particularly given their midseason falling out. Assuming it happened of course...

No Bassett did not have a role at the club and they are definitely not close. But that is how it was told to me. Bassett is a good mate of Harry Redknapp's though despite their difference's in style (it's in Bassett's book). Although Bassett and Warnock were not close they did business together Tony Agana being one so they were obviously if not mates at least able to communicate. Also football is brutal when it comes to comments made and Bassett has said some scathing things in the press about Warnock but it doesn't mean that they can't communicate. And further to that Bassett and Warnock fell out in the Prem this was the season before.

I have no idea why Keith Gillespie didn't mention it, I haven't read his book. Maybe he has had advice not to mention it I don't know. If there was no police statement or complaint and they just came in and separated them then there is no positive proof. That one I'm less sure on as it came from a poster on Bladesmad, however he was very accurate prior to events happening until Bromby was sold. He now admits that it was Bromby telling him the stuff he was passing on via code.

 

[bartman]

I have nothing more to do with Bladesmad. I did at that time but it was Bulmer who knew Bromby and got loads of info from him. He used to know who was coming in and leaving etc. He used the psu

Its not strange really we were in the middle of a promotion season and apparently Warnock took it all back once Bassett phoned him to tell him Redknap had the job. If you are in the middle of a promotion season you stick with what you have. Because he got us promoted and the fans were in love with Warnock at the time the board presumably took the decision that he was the best hope of keeping us up on a limited budget but that when his contract was up at the end of the season to appoint someone to take us further. They certainly didn't trust him as an unflinching Blade anymore. The board were pragmatic and like to keep things said in the board room, in the board room.

Sorry to disappoint but I haven't got any mates at the club the people I got this from work with the club at a high level but the specific mate doesn't anymore however if even a clue was given to where this came from he would be in serious trouble and I would not divulge that.

So what you are basically saying that everything you have said is rumour and hearsay from third parties. IS there any reason for you to think Bulmer was telling the truth >?

If he really knew Bromby,and knowing the sensitivity of the information, he should not be putting that kind of info on a public forum. I am sure that Bromby would have distanced himself from the comments as soon as they were pointed out to them. Some things need to be kept away from the fans,.

As for finding out things from people who have worked with the club rather thar for the club.....sounds like an eighteen89 (blades mad poster) comment. Very cryptic. I am sure you know what happened to eighteen89's posts after his 'prediction' as being ITK in the summer.

Sorry for being cynical but anything taken from Bladesmad should be taken with a pinch of salt. You'll be telling us Ched is training with us and has signed a contract next

 

[jezzablade]

So what you are basically saying that everything you have said is rumour and hearsay from third parties. IS there any reason for you to think Bulmer was telling the truth >?

If he really knew Bromby,and knowing the sensitivity of the information, he should not be putting that kind of info on a public forum. I am sure that Bromby would have distanced himself from the comments as soon as they were pointed out to them. Some things need to be kept away from the fans,.

As for finding out things from people who have worked with the club rather thar for the club.....sounds like an eighteen89 (blades mad poster) comment. Very cryptic. I am sure you know what happened to eighteen89's posts after his 'prediction' as being ITK in the summer.

Sorry for being cynical but anything taken from Bladesmad should be taken with a pinch of salt. You'll be telling us Ched is training with us and has signed a contract next

As regards Bulmer I believe he was as he was always so on the money. He even stated that he had no more information at the time Bromby left so I don't doubt him. If I was Bromby I would distance myself from it also. Whether Bulmer decides to put it into the public domain was upto him. He did and I'm basically stating what was said at the time. That was my source I have no reason to doubt him based on the information he was getting at the time. His code was Auntie B by the way. So you are right it might be rumour (a fairly bizarre one to concoct but it may be).

The other one I really cannot divulge as it would get someone in career threatening trouble which I refuse to do. The fact that I have mentioned even that demonstrates the type of job this person does and therefore I would not risk their livelihood by divulging it.

 

[Bladepicker]

What ever happened to that Eighteen89 on bladesmad? Who was he?

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I have nothing more to do with Bladesmad. I did at that time but it was Bulmer who knew Bromby and got loads of info from him. He used to know who was coming in and leaving etc. He used the psu

I’m always interested in hearing rumours and gossip, even if to start with I then take most of it with a pinch of salt.

What I’m trying to establish is in this case is:-
What did Warnock say before the Wigan match?
Which player or player(s) did he offend by saying it?
Who was trying to strangle him before the police stepped in?

As you posted the story, surely you must remember the gist of what this bloke Bulmer (Auntie B / Leigh Bromby) said happened?

If you can try and put a bit more flesh on the bones then we can all make our own minds up about how much truth there is likely to be in it?

 

[jezzablade]

What ever happened to that Eighteen89 on bladesmad? Who was he?

My guess was that he was one of the invisible people. As in waiters, taxi drivers etc, who execs speaking to each other forget that these people overhear. I think they flushed him out by giving some duff information as he was a pain in their side. (Their being the board).

 

[bartman]

What ever happened to that Eighteen89 on bladesmad? Who was he?

He pretended he was close to someone close to the club and knew about all transfers in and out. He only ever posted in the summer or in the transfer window. His posts were cryptic and didn't really say anything. Posters slowly cottoned on to this and he got upset when people challenged him (he never named players,clubs etc....you had to 'read between the lines)

In the summer he was found out (if I recall correctly) as he was claiming Robinson had been in talks with us and had been offered/got the job until it was pointed out this wasn't the case (Robinson himself said it was paper speculation I think and the chairman said we hadn't approached them for talks).

Basically he used to get together all the rumours and make up a story. Not been seen since the summer I think