Just settle for a draw Chris

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Yes, Fleck was stupid and missing him now for 3 games could well mean this poor run of form continues. However, Wilder cost us the point today with those substitutions.

If Basham was injured then fair enough, but bring on Wright and settle for the draw. It’s not like we were on top when Basham came off and it warranted an attacking substitution, we were under pressure and Basham was doing well.

I like his attacking style but he needs to learn when to just settle for a point, and at home, with 10 men against the team directly above you in the league is such a time.
 



My thoughts exactly mate. Bit of a head scratcher. It's not cat kicking time yet tho. Shit result, good performance.
 
snootyfenooty said:
Agree 100%. he went for shit or bust. A point would have been a good result in the circumstances. Baffling.
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Ordinarily I'd say yes take a point but we are at no risk of going down this season. This is a bonus season if you like so we can really afford to take a risk. We lost 1 point to try to gain 3. And to be fair we did have a couple of half chances I'd sooner take risks than play for the draw where we could have still ended up losing. For all the teams qualities seeing out games and not conceding isn't one of its strongest.
 
And what if he'd have brought the likes of CCV on instead of say Donaldson or Carruthers and they still get that near last minute winner (from what was a good finish but a jammy cross) What then?

This board would have gone into meltdown about that.

He made the call to go for it and tonight it didn't work. That's football.
 
I don't totally agree with that. He was trying to stop us sitting back and being penned in our box. They've scored a lot from set pieces and had the clear height advantage. Bringing Wright on would have just made it a siege on our goal. The sad fact is that we're lacking as a squad. Caruthers should be nowhere near it, in my view. He's more interested in showing off than rolling his sleeves up and putting a shift in.

But there was no one else to bring on who could feasibly get the ball in midfield and do something with it. It's going to be a very long month.
 
Smirth said:
Yes, Fleck was stupid and missing him now for 3 games could well mean this poor run of form continues. However, Wilder cost us the point today with those substitutions.

If Basham was injured then fair enough, but bring on Wright and settle for the draw. It’s not like we were on top when Basham came off and it warranted an attacking substitution, we were under pressure and Basham was doing well.

I like his attacking style but he needs to learn when to just settle for a point, and at home, with 10 men against the team directly above you in the league is such a time.
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Agreed. That approach in those circumstances is only acceptable if it comes off. It it doesn’t you have to take the criticism for it. Cost us a point in a six point game.
 



The decision that confused me was taking Basham off. I have no real problem with the fact that we have limited defensive options and attack is our best form of defence at the moment. If he takes a striker off and we go a goal down quickly then it's game over. I'm not sure who it was that played their lad on-side for the winner, but if he does what he's supposed to and steps up then we at least hold a point there.
 
He just needs to find the right balance. I back him to do that. On another day Carruthers picks out Brooks who crosses for Donaldson to score. We are all going to second guess - it's what we do - but he's the first manager I've had full faith in since Bassett and I'll quite happily forgive the odd defeat instead of a point for the great home performances we'e seen
 
Reedy_22 said:
And what if he'd have brought the likes of CCV on instead of say Donaldson or Carruthers and they still get that near last minute winner (from what was a good finish but a jammy cross) What then?

This board would have gone into meltdown about that.

He made the call to go for it and tonight it didn't work. That's football.
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Once Basham went off they started opening us up on their left where Bash had been dominant. Up to Bash going off they didn't look like scoring.

Don't go with all this it's a bonus season, just go for it, not tonight, that was a point in the bag tonight until that substitution, in the circs take it. We're in a good position (it was a great position up to the Burton game), don't throw it all away being reckless when it's not needed. Teams that get promotion are those that if they don't win they make sure they don't lease.
 
Chris has already said before he took the job he’ll never settle for a draw.
If you don’t like it then we need someone like Carloss Calvahal instead.

Personally I’d rather us be really positive pushing for the win.
However of course it means occasionally you’ll get countered and lose.
But I’d rather see open attacking positive entertaining games.
If we lose, we go down fighting, none of this negative stuff.
 
Its a weird one but I do think that tonight at 1-1 we should have reinforced midfield rather than trying to get another goal whilst leaving us more exposed at the back. If losing then fair enough, but not at 1-1 with 10 men.
 
Will never ever criticise anyone for going for it, in case anyone didn't notice you lose one point for turning a draw into a loss, but gain two for turning it into a win. It does not need to work that often to be correct.

More baffling was Moore not going up for the corner when it went 2-1
 
Just settle for a draw Chris
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I'll never criticise a Blades manager for trying to win a home game.

Just remember how many previous managers would've settled for a point in far more favourable circumstances.

We're very lucky to have a manager with Wilder's mentality.
 
now im wary of doing this. because i dont like being critical as wilder is doing amazing & hes brilliantly entertaining. im talking about something before my time admitally but its has similarities to Newcastle team in 96?? that crumbled from 12pt lead as the didnt know when to settle

but ive thought since fulham wilders far too gung ho, which is brilliant when it works but sometimes 1pt is better than 0pt as we couldve had 3 draws instead of 3 defeats in last 4 games. by going the old pre war 2-3-5 tactics. stick with the 352 with like of like subs not fwd & cm for 2 cbs. keep going like we had through the game see what happens in final 10 mins. keeping solid for at least a point & i never mentioned in person or on here because i really dont like being critial of wilder
 
Smirth said:
Yes, Fleck was stupid and missing him now for 3 games could well mean this poor run of form continues. However, Wilder cost us the point today with those substitutions.

If Basham was injured then fair enough, but bring on Wright and settle for the draw. It’s not like we were on top when Basham came off and it warranted an attacking substitution, we were under pressure and Basham was doing well.

I like his attacking style but he needs to learn when to just settle for a point, and at home, with 10 men against the team directly above you in the league is such a time.
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Completely disagree. I love how we play to win. Settle for a point with 10 to go? No thanks. But we have to defend better than tonight
 



Nine times of out ten I'd rather we go for it. But this was a bit of a six-pointer. It's not just the difference between us getting 0 or 1 points, it's the difference between a direct rival getting 1 or 3.

It's not even really about "going for it." It's about asking if we're any more effective with Donaldson, Sharp, Clarke, and Brooks all on the pitch at the same time, as opposed to a slightly better balance between midfield and attack. We didn't look dangerous *at all* with all these strikers on the pitch.
 
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