Player Suggestion John Egan

[Weasel]

Whatever people do or do not think.he's worth under wilder the progression to where we are has only been possible through wilder having money through player sales

People bandying about ridiculous valuations are just blustering at the end of the day wilder will do what's best for the club

True, but what you dont do if you really want to progress the club in stature and move it onto higher levels, is sell your best players unless the player either wants to leave, his contract is being run down, or you get silly money offered for them (and yes £50m for Egan would be very silly money). As it stands, scenario 1 and 2 do not apply.

So unless silly money is offered, Egan should be staying right where he is.

And then, if he was sold, we would then need to go out and find his replacement and that isn't gunna be cheap to find another player of his quality who can do it week in week out in the PL. If these players were easy to obtain, other clubs would source them from elsewhere and wouldnt be after Egan.

To me its obvious. Unless Egan or his agent start causing waves, then he stays at Utd unless silly money is offered. Hopefully he will stay at the Lane and help us to establish ourselves in the PL which is worth £100m plus each season to the club.

Oh, and it looks like £80 million player HM and £50m Wan-Bissaka are both proving just how much better they are than our defenders (and Egan) again tonight...

 

[Niceguyeddie]

True, but what you dont do if you really want to progress the club in stature and move it onto higher levels, is sell your best players unless the player either wants to leave, his contract is being run down, or you get silly money offered for them (and yes £50m for Egan would be very silly money). As it stands, scenario 1 and 2 do not apply.

So unless silly money is offered, Egan should be staying right where he is.

And then, if he was sold, we would then need to go out and find his replacement and that isn't gunna be cheap to find another player of his quality who can do it week in week out in the PL. If these players were easy to obtain, other clubs would source them from elsewhere and wouldnt be after Egan.

To me its obvious. Unless Egan or his agent start causing waves, then he stays at Utd unless silly money is offered. Hopefully he will stay at the Lane and help us to establish ourselves in the PL which is worth £100m plus each season to the club.

Lots on here said the brooks money was silly
It paid for our promotion
I'll leave it to the manager he knows who he can and can't replace

 

[Weasel]

Lots on here said the brooks money was silly
It paid for our promotion
I'll leave it to the manager he knows who he can and can't replace

I agree, we should do that. And unless the player and his agent pushes for a move, you can rest assured that CW won't be as keen as some to take the money without it being a very tasty sum of money coming our way. If a £20m offer came in for JE tomorrow, I'd be amazed if CW accepted it.

 

[Carlton Blade]

But a player’s value is dictated by the selling club. He’s worth a lot to us, so in theory he is a £30m+ player surely?

Hard to say I suppose. If he played for Burnley would you pay £30m for him?

 

[Carlton Blade]

So, so much more than that.

He's worth that to us but there's no way anyone would pay that for him. We are a smaller Prem club, he's not English and he's already 27 so probably as good as he'll get (I disagree with that but that's how transfers work). If he requests a transfer we'll get buds of £15-20m

 

[Weasel]

Hard to say I suppose. If he played for Burnley would you pay £30m for him?

When you consider that the likes of unproven young players like Bowen at Hull are being touted at £20 plus (good player that he is and extremely likeable after today) then £30m for a centre half who glues us together at the back and who is fast establishing himself as a real quality PL player, then I would be quite happy for CW to get that sort of player in for Utd at that price, provided of course we had the money to do so.

I see many a player in the PL who have had huge transfer fees attached to them, and they are nowhere near the importance to their clubs or teams as someone like Egan is to Utd this season. You take Egan out of that defence and the solidity of the defence is immediately undermined. We saw that v Man Utd at the Lane.

 

[Carlton Blade]

When you consider that the likes of unproven young players like Bowen at Hull are being touted at £20 plus (good player that he is and extremely likeable after today) then £30m for a centre half who glues us together at the back and who is fast establishing himself as a real quality PL player, then I would be quite happy for CW to get that sort of player in for Utd at that price, provided of course we had the money to do so.

I see many a player in the PL who have had huge transfer fees attached to them, and they are nowhere near the importance to their clubs or teams as someone like Egan is to Utd this season. You take Egan out of that defence and the solidity of the defence is immediately undermined. We saw that v Man Utd at the Lane.

Probably fair. Maybe I'm just not used to these fees!

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Hmm! £50M eh? The Prince could buy the club's assets with that and have full ownership.

That's the big danger this month.

 

[Weasel]

Probably fair. Maybe I'm just not used to these fees!

Oh I totally agree. The transfer fees in football are beyond pathetic really and are shameful to the industry. It just attracts more hangers on, agents and swindlers who are all out for a piece of the lucrative pie. If anyone was in any doubt, just look at the Emiliano Sala transfer where the parasites were all trying to make money off the back of it.

I suppose we just have to think it's all relative now and we should charge for our players accordingly. If we went in for Ollie Watkins (obviously a forward not a centre half but a lad who's never played in the PL), we will be touted north of £20m for him. Back on planet Earth, he isnt worth that in a million years, but on Planet Premier League, where if he scores the goals to get Brentford promoted to the PL, or if he scored the goals to help get the wins for a team to stay up, then he most certainly is worth that money, if not considerably more.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Oh I totally agree. The transfer fees in football are beyond pathetic really and are shameful to the industry. It just attracts more hangers on, agents and swindlers who are all out for a piece of the lucrative pie. If anyone was in any doubt, just look at the Emiliano Sala transfer where the parasites were all trying to make mo eh off the back of it.

I suppose we just have to think it's all relative now and we should charge for our players accordingly. If we went in for Ollie Watkins (obviously a forward not a centre half but a lad who's never played in the PL) we will be touted north of £20m for him. Back on planet Earth, he isnt worth that in a million years, but on Planet Premier League, where if he scores the goals to get Brentford promoted to the PL, or he scored the goals to help get the wins for a team to stay up, then he most certainly is worth that money, if not considerably more.

and that’s the problem. It makes football a less competitive game because it favours a few clubs who are the richest.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Carlo Ancelotti will in my opinion go back to Italy for whatever he needs,Italy has always been renowned for producing great defenders.

Would be hard to resist playing in here tho for any player.

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Fucking water polo?

 

[Madabouttheblades]

If Everton want him?? It will be at a price that is acceptable to the owners of the club and if Everton are willing to pay the price. If they offered £20 million plus Holgate and Calvert Lewin. I'd consider it.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

If Everton want him?? It will be at a price that is acceptable to the owners of the club and if Everton are willing to pay the price. If they offered £20 million plus Holgate and Calvert Lewin. I'd consider it.

No deal Noel.

 

[JackSUFC]

Hard to say I suppose. If he played for Burnley would you pay £30m for him?

Everton paid Burnley that for Michael Keane a couple of years ago. Tarkowski was linked to Leicester in the summer for even more than that.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Everton paid Burnley that for Michael Keane a couple of years ago. Tarkowski was linked to Leicester in the summer for even more than that.

That's not what I asked though. Because Keane has been a failure and Tarkowski hasn't moved.

I'm not trying to talk Egan down as a player. I just don't believe anyone would pay an amount that makes it worth selling him for us. He fits too perfectly.

 

[JackSUFC]

That's not what I asked though. Because Keane has been a failure and Tarkowski hasn't moved.

I'm not trying to talk Egan down as a player. I just don't believe anyone would pay an amount that makes it worth selling him for us. He fits too perfectly.

I was just thinking of comparable Burnley defenders. I agree with the last part, it could be said for most of our players in fairness. It’s also why they’re going to be difficult to replace.

 

[bonnet de douche]

Why would we let him go for £20 million?

I’m not saying we should let him go....in January..I’m just saying what the price will be if he did ....

 

[Akinbiyi]

He's worth that to us but there's no way anyone would pay that for him. We are a smaller Prem club, he's not English and he's already 27 so probably as good as he'll get (I disagree with that but that's how transfers work). If he requests a transfer we'll get buds of £15-20m

Don’t agree at all. Keane went for 30mil 2 years ago to that very same club and the market inflation since then + the January premiums mean he’s gonna command at LEAST 30mil. It’s irrelevant how ‘unfashionable’ we are in this instance.

 

[Ranmoorblade]

I’m not saying we should let him go....in January..I’m just saying what the price will be if he did ....

I don’t think we’ll let him go that cheap.

 

[Blade56]

Have you ever been faced with strengthening your fantasy team but unless you sell one of your better players you are stuck?
if, and I mean if CW wants to buy a few players and replace Egan he will have targets and with McWontfeckrightoff dragging us down for the foreseeable future who knows?
Problem is CWs bargain and fringe buys don’t always work out he has made mistakes that are not necessarily his ‘fault’ it’s just a weakness in our funding strategy.
Lenihan might be on the radar!

 

[Carlton Blade]

Don’t agree at all. Keane went for 30mil 2 years ago to that very same club and the market inflation since then + the January premiums mean he’s gonna command at LEAST 30mil. It’s irrelevant how ‘unfashionable’ we are in this instance.

Keane still has the played for Man Utd price increase. Plus he's English and he was 23. In theory Everton will have thought they could sell him for £50m about now. There's no way Egan attracts the same bids, he doesn't have the same attributes that artificially inflate fees.

The only way we sell is if he puts in a request to leave. That also reduces your negotiation power.

Egan is a much better player but he wouldn't go for as much as Keane

 

[Akinbiyi]

Keane still has the played for Man Utd price increase. Plus he's English and he was 23. In theory Everton will have thought they could sell him for £50m about now. There's no way Egan attracts the same bids, he doesn't have the same attributes that artificially inflate fees.

The only way we sell is if he puts in a request to leave. That also reduces your negotiation power.

Egan is a much better player but he wouldn't go for as much as Keane

He doesn't go anywhere if we don't get those types of bids, simple as that

 

[Carlton Blade]

He doesn't go anywhere if we don't get those types of bids, simple as that

Completely agree. There isn't a number that suits both parties. He's worth so much more to us than he would be to Everton

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

That's probably right for now.

But some of these figures being thrown about are utter nonsense.

Tyrone Mings was 25m.

Egan > Mings.

 

[FriethBlade]

Not just Mings....Brighton paid £20m for Webster from Bristol City and he got run ragged by the 2 Mc's a couple of weeks back.

Egan wont be sold unless he refuses a new contract and if he is 25m is the minimum starting point with the final fee possibly over 30m

 

[Houston_Blade]

Not just Mings....Brighton paid £20m for Webster from Bristol City and he got run ragged by the 2 Mc's a couple of weeks back.

Egan wont be sold unless he refuses a new contract and if he is 25m is the minimum starting point with the final fee possibly over 30m

Musa’ad is that you?!

 

[Mouth of the South]

Just read that Everton are apparently well in for Ake at Bournemouth. Leaving Egan alone and further weakening Bournemouth - sounds like a win-win to me.

 

[FriethBlade]

Just read that Everton are apparently well in for Ake at Bournemouth. Leaving Egan alone and further weakening Bournemouth - sounds like a win-win to me.

Ake is another vastly.over rated centre half...they had Villas pants down with 25m for Mings and now Everton are going to waste even more money!

 

[Sam64]

Just read that Everton are apparently well in for Ake at Bournemouth. Leaving Egan alone and further weakening Bournemouth - sounds like a win-win to me.

Cue Egan to Bournemouth rumours then

 

[BigBed]

Haha, can see that one happening, honest.