CONFIRMED John Brayford - Contract Mutually Terminated

[Champagneblade]

As Nige is bringing the band back together with Buxton joining, Barker on terms there (and didn't he have Warnock at Derby or was that after him?) surely he'll not resist a chance to get back JB.

He might look to play hardball, but we all know how much he loves Brayford.

They have Buxton. They have Turner signed up. The have Barker for cover. They still have Mousinho who can play defence or midfield.

If Wilder wanted McFadzean before and wouldn't mind rating a fee for Brayford, surely there is no better chance than to offer a straight swap.

Clough could offset Brayford's wages with the loss of McFadzean's and United would at least feel like they are getting a fee given Clough paid 500k for McFadzean. He can also sell it that he got a player for 500k p/x that went for almost 3x that to us.

Seems to be a golden opportunity for a win-win, assuming Wilder still rates McFadzean.

 

[S64 Blade]

Good point, he won`t be, he will have had an automatic increase, could be a big one too with the contracts we were giving out back then.

The wage increase is the reason Matt Done is still here!
Best wage of his career, no wonder hes not keen to move.

It's big indeed.

 

[sheffielder]

Good point, he won`t be, he will have had an automatic increase, could be a big one too with the contracts we were giving out back then.

The wage increase is the reason Matt Done is still here!
Best wage of his career, no wonder hes not keen to move.

It would be very short sited as he only has a year of his contract left. He's literally 4th in line for wing back, nevermind striker. Same situation for Brayford. His injuries aren't getting any better, he's better off moving and trying to get a longer contract for less money, with us covering the difference for the next year. I don't want to bring George Long into it either, but I imagine his wage is higher than what he contributes.

Is this one of the reasons why Wilson, Hussey etc haven't moved. We really need to improve these contracts where you don't automatically get a payrise when we are promoted, you must have to play a% of games to get it.

 

[Liaminho9]

It would be very short sited as he only has a year of his contract left. He's literally 4th in line for wing back, nevermind striker. Same situation for Brayford. His injuries aren't getting any better, he's better off moving and trying to get a longer contract for less money, with us covering the difference for the next year. I don't want to bring George Long into it either, but I imagine his wage is higher than what he contributes.

Is this one of the reasons why Wilson, Hussey etc haven't moved. We really need to improve these contracts where you don't automatically get a payrise when we are promoted, you must have to play a% of games to get it.

As far as i'm aware it's a pretty standard thing in any footballers contract, and works across the entire professional playing staff - equally there is a wage decrease if we were to be relegated.

 

[Treeton Blade]

It would be very short sited as he only has a year of his contract left. He's literally 4th in line for wing back, nevermind striker. Same situation for Brayford. His injuries aren't getting any better, he's better off moving and trying to get a longer contract for less money, with us covering the difference for the next year. I don't want to bring George Long into it either, but I imagine his wage is higher than what he contributes.

Is this one of the reasons why Wilson, Hussey etc haven't moved. We really need to improve these contracts where you don't automatically get a payrise when we are promoted, you must have to play a% of games to get it.

Increase would have been inserted last summer when both players signed, regardless of games played.

 

[BushBlade]

It would be very short sited as he only has a year of his contract left. He's literally 4th in line for wing back, nevermind striker. Same situation for Brayford. His injuries aren't getting any better, he's better off moving and trying to get a longer contract for less money, with us covering the difference for the next year. I don't want to bring George Long into it either, but I imagine his wage is higher than what he contributes.

Is this one of the reasons why Wilson, Hussey etc haven't moved. We really need to improve these contracts where you don't automatically get a payrise when we are promoted, you must have to play a% of games to get it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Done ends up going out on loan. And Long.

 

[wizadry]

As Nige is bringing the band back together with Buxton joining, Barker on terms there (and didn't he have Warnock at Derby or was that after him?) surely he'll not resist a chance to get back JB.

He might look to play hardball, but we all know how much he loves Brayford.

They have Buxton. They have Turner signed up. The have Barker for cover. They still have Mousinho who can play defence or midfield.

If Wilder wanted McFadzean before and wouldn't mind rating a fee for Brayford, surely there is no better chance than to offer a straight swap.

Clough could offset Brayford's wages with the loss of McFadzean's and United would at least feel like they are getting a fee given Clough paid 500k for McFadzean. He can also sell it that he got a player for 500k p/x that went for almost 3x that to us.

Seems to be a golden opportunity for a win-win, assuming Wilder still rates McFadzean.

Things could've well changed mate, Wilder might have rated McFadzean as a League one player, this is the reason I think it could be a non starter. Is Irvine still there though because he would be well worth swapping with money making up the deficit.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

CW judged his attitude and effort as much as his technical ability. He obviously wasn't impressed. Players don't always get to play in their preferred position, some get on with it and do their best, others sulk. Remember when Diego whinged about being played out of position? Wrong attitude. That's why he's still not made it. Same with Brayford. If CW didn't think his heart was in it, it's game over for him.
Rooney more or less had his career wrecked by Fergie playing him out of position and I don't think he's ever even mentioned it, never mind moan about it.

It’s a strange one as Wilder specifically cited Brayford as one of those senior players who were real leaders and buying into everything he wanted soon after his arrival (along with Sharp and Basham). Then, opening day against Bolton he started like a freight train up and down that right flank before getting injured making a brave, goal saving challenge (a feature of his previous injury v Swindon in the playoffs). I saw little evidence of a poor attitude from him. But the Clough factor is a strange one and his injuries since he did the ACL would be of concern when you consider how much money he’s on. He also might not be happy being behind Freeman for the RWB role and Basham for the RCB role. And can we afford such a high earning utility/ squad player? Perhaps it’s a combination of those issues that have led to Wilder’s decision.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Has Brayford moaned about being played out of position? I personally would take into account the possibility of him worrying about a career threatening injury when talking about his heart.
I think it's quite sad that a player who energised the team AND the fans initially and then suffered serious injury is seemingly written off a a United player because of some hearsay lack of heart and being a "mate" of Clough. If Wilder doesn't fancy him - and I'm fine with that - for whatever reason, he's been castigated for choosing to go to a club in a higher division thats managed by someone who does rate him and probably got a good deal on the loan costs.

Couldn’t agree more. I’m happy to back Wilder in his decision but I don’t understand why Brayford gets such a bad press from some on here. He was a real talisman when he first came and when he came back (having taken a pay cut and dropped a division to do so), even though he didn’t hit the same heights, he always put a shift in for the club and played wherever we needed him to and has twice injured himself (once seriously) making goal saving challenges for us. The injuries have taken their toll on him I think and he might have lost a little bit of pace making him a little less effective but for me, he goes with my best wishes and thanks for his efforts for SUFC.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

No, I probably wrote that badly. Diego complained publicly and I was using it as an example of a bad attitude.

Brayford played like he wasn't fully committed. CW then dropped him, sent him out on loan and has transfer listed him. So, my assumption is that CW wasn't impressed with his attitude.

Did he drop him? I thought he was in the team ‘til he left on loan which is when I believe Freeman was brought back in. Wilder said the deal was for financial reasons. I’ve seen little evidence of much else.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

A lot of people seem to have forgotten how Brayford got his bad injury. It was literally putting his body on the line for Sheffield United, attempting to stop Swindon scoring in the first leg of the playoffs.

More specifically, saving us from yet another McEveley blunder.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Are we still worrying about the wages John Brayford will be on? I can understand the concern in League one but surely not the Championship?

Hardly game changing thinking if that's a major reason in the decision.

He might have had a large pay rise upon promotion written into his contract. There was a lot of talk about a need to be creative with the terms to get him here when we signed him. He may well have had a trigger taking him back to the money he was on at Cardiff (reported to be £18k per week).

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Or you could say we grossly overpaid the one?

Or that the one was worth it at the time but the toll of injuries means that he no longer is?

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

No,because you can't forsee injuries and you don't factor them into a contract. I just think we were blinded in our pursuit to sign him after his great loan spell and lost touch with reality.

 

[BushBlade]

Did he drop him? I thought he was in the team ‘til he left on loan which is when I believe Freeman was brought back in. Wilder said the deal was for financial reasons. I’ve seen little evidence of much else.

Same thing in my eyes and not really important, he got him out of the club.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Same thing in my eyes and not really important, he got him out of the club.

I'd say the difference was that til that point, he considered him a preferable option to Freeman which suggests the deal was purely financially motivated as CW suggests (allowing him to bring in other players we needed such as EEL, Lafferty and Moore).

 

[The Crab]

You won't be very happy to learn then that the Bramall Lane stand is going to be named after Kim Kardashian. Apparently she likes red and white stripes and once used some Sheffield cutlery in London, so she's as good as lifelong Blade.

It'll be a "big ass" stand then.

 

[The Crab]

Wouldn't you be prepared to join the queue to help then?

I'd be front and centre

 

[The Crab]

She can sit on my knee.

A knee wasn't what I had in mind.

 

[The Crab]

We will. There's no way we'll get £1.5m back - reported to be £1.5m

We won't get the .5

 

[BushBlade]

I'd say the difference was that til that point, he considered him a preferable option to Freeman which suggests the deal was purely financially motivated as CW suggests (allowing him to bring in other players we needed such as EEL, Lafferty and Moore).

Tbh, I don't really care. As I said when the news was announced that he's been transfer listed, I'm sick of reading about him. It may have been financial and it may not have been. I thought the sale of DCL and Adams would have covered those three but perhaps not.

My original point was in response to a comment that Brayford wasn't given a chance. IMO, he was.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Tbh, I don't really care. As I said when the news was announced that he's been transfer listed, I'm sick of reading about him. It may have been financial and it may not have been. I thought the sale of DCL and Adams would have covered those three but perhaps not.

My original point was in response to a comment that Brayford wasn't given a chance. IMO, he was.

That's fair enough. As you say, none of us know for sure what deals finance others. All I can go on is that when he was with us, he played. When he left, Wilder said it was his decision for financial reasons. I can't see any reason to doubt that and don't subscribe to the talk of attitude problem. As for being given a chance, yes, he was. I thought he did OK with that chance but probably not well enough to justify a salary over and above the norm for the squad (post injury).

 

[Ricky]

We're going to have to wait right until the end of the transfer window to offload Brayford IMO, if we're lucky.

We need to get rid of Done as well. But it's inevitable we'll effectively still be paying 50% of his wage next season.

Please United, no more contracts where the player can help himself to another year.

 

[Davalon]

Good mate of mine had a long chat with Brayford at Donny races on Saturday.

My mate asked if there was any chance we might see him next season and JB said not as he isn't part of the picture. Doesn't know where his future lies and said he's looking for club from Monday.

Had no animosity or bad words towards United or any individuals.

Him and his mates absolute cracking lads according to my mate and hung around with him for a good while.

Nothing earth shattering news wise obviously, but thought worth posting considering some of the views on here.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

I'd say the difference was that til that point, he considered him a preferable option to Freeman which suggests the deal was purely financially motivated as CW suggests (allowing him to bring in other players we needed such as EEL, Lafferty and Moore).

There was a rumour that CW had a few choice words with JB after the Southend defeat which didn't go down too well.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

There was a rumour that CW had a few choice words with JB after the Southend defeat which didn't go down too well.

Not to doubt wilder But it does seem likely that there had been abit of a falling out.

Given the lack of available centrebacks does seem odd we are getting rid of the one who has proved himself at championship level in a back 3. That said I think part of it was budget related and we prob picked up 2 players for the same amount button contributed to his wages

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

Being linked with a move to the pigs.

 

[FTPE]

Being linked with a move to the pigs.

That's good, 5million quid will get us a fantastic replacement.

 

[IOM Blade]

There was a rumour that CW had a few choice words with JB after the Southend defeat which didn't go down too well.

I do remember CW having a pop at him after the third or forth game in a post match interview for rolling around injured.

 

[Lard_Lad]

Wednesday being interested in Brayford could be one of the best things they've done for us, I'm sure they'd actually be willing to pay a decent fee