CONFIRMED John Brayford - Contract Mutually Terminated

[Bartleby]

I agree in principle but it becomes tiresome when you clearly explain your point and folk wilfully misinterpret and pretend you've said something entirely different.

I admire your patience with him I'll say that, I ducked out of that one near the beginning

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I admire your patience with him I'll say that, I ducked out of that one near the beginning

I have a problem. I can't seem to stop myself arguing with numpties from the internet. But, I have a job so can't keep repeating myself all day.

 

[Bartleby]

I have a problem. I can't seem to stop myself arguing with numpties from the internet. But, I have a job so can't keep repeating myself all day.

Hope you've got plenty of hobbies for when you retire then

 

[Barney Rubble]

I agree in principle but it becomes tiresome when you clearly explain your point and folk wilfully misinterpret and pretend you've said something entirely different. Anyone who genuinely believes the sale of Maguire made us stronger is beyond reasoning with.

Do what I do mate - don't consider his posts as logical arguments just look upon them as fine examples of free verse surrealist poetry.

 

[blade too long]

You're constantly making up things that people have said despite them saying nothing of the sort. If you want to labour on the finishing positions, we also finished 3rd with Maguire on 90 points.

You're claiming that finishing 2 places higher (7th to 5th) is down to the sale of our star player and not down to a period of being managed by the worst manager in our history (statistically) whilst also completely rebuilding the squad signing 20 odd players yet you claim dropping from 5th to 11th had nothing to do with the sale of a star player and everything to do with a manager despite very little inward movement on players. You couldn't make it up, well, unless you were a little bit special.

again your making things up
I said obviously the argument that selling maguire taking us backwards wasnt backed up by league positions
thats all I ever said

when you say worst manager in our history , you mean Adkins surely

he came with a good cv and disappointed far more than Weir who was experimental, a punt

we didnt know what to expect with weir , adkins promised far more
the very little inward movement was Adkins role
or are you saying it was someone elses job . perhaps kevin was locking him in a cupboard whenever he threatened to sign someone eh

 

[blade too long]

You said he took absolutely no action. His role is to identify players to the board and others were in charge of getting them to sign. If he took no action, you are implicitly saying he identified nobody.

Try to get your nonsense stories in order before you post.

he identified players clubs were not willing to release

CW got that from MK Dons
moved on
got someone else instead within a week

which bit of this fucking glaring difference dont you get
are you fucking blind
CW asked for players prepared to come, the board STUMPED UP

its not fucking rocket science
The Dan Burn chase alone tells how useless Adkins was
he spent months looking for the end of a rainbow , that kept moving further away

 

[raul]

BTL - "It's Tuesday"

Everyone else - "No it isn't"

BTL - "I never said it was Tuesday, you're all talking rubbish etc etc etc"

On and on and on and on.

 

[Kenilworth]

 

[Grappler]

He''l be the next one of their shite ones we sign, like Cofie

Where you heard this pal?

 

[The Crab]

Where you heard this pal?

Through the grapevine

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I said obviously the argument that selling maguire taking us backwards wasnt backed up by league positions
thats all I ever said

OK, so for clarities sake, do you think selling Lowton, Blackman, McDonald, Maguire, Murphy etc. has made us stronger or weaker? You can answer them 1 by one or as a collective. Up to you. But the fact remains, you can swear at me as much as you want, you are making yourself look very stupid.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

again your making things up
I said obviously the argument that selling maguire taking us backwards wasnt backed up by league positions
thats all I ever said

when you say worst manager in our history , you mean Adkins surely

he came with a good cv and disappointed far more than Weir who was experimental, a punt

we didnt know what to expect with weir , adkins promised far more
the very little inward movement was Adkins role
or are you saying it was someone elses job . perhaps kevin was locking him in a cupboard whenever he threatened to sign someone eh

Weir was statistically far worse. You love cold hard stats rather than the subjective eye. Or does that not suit you now? 11th or 23rd? Which is better?



"the very little inward movement was Adkins role
or are you saying it was someone elses job . perhaps kevin was locking him in a cupboard whenever he threatened to sign someone eh"

I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU ABOUT A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WAS MAL BRANNIGAN'S JOB TO SIGN PLAYERS NOT NIGEL ADKINS. I REPEAT, NOT NIGEL ADKINS. ONCE AGAIN, ADKINS COULDN'T SIGN PLAYERS. THAT WASN'T HIS JOB. HE DID NOT CONDUCT NEGOTIATIONS. THERE WAS NO NEED FOR MCCABE TO LOCK HIM IN A CUPBOARD BECUASE HE COULD NOT SIGN PLAYERS. THAT WAS BRANNIGAN'S JOB.

 

[blade too long]

Weir was statistically far worse. You love cold hard stats rather than the subjective eye. Or does that not suit you now? 11th or 23rd? Which is better?



"the very little inward movement was Adkins role
or are you saying it was someone elses job . perhaps kevin was locking him in a cupboard whenever he threatened to sign someone eh"

I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU ABOUT A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WAS MAL BRANNIGAN'S JOB TO SIGN PLAYERS NOT NIGEL ADKINS. I REPEAT, NOT NIGEL ADKINS. ONCE AGAIN, ADKINS COULDN'T SIGN PLAYERS. THAT WASN'T HIS JOB. HE DID NOT CONDUCT NEGOTIATIONS. THERE WAS NO NEED FOR MCCABE TO LOCK HIM IN A CUPBOARD BECUASE HE COULD NOT SIGN PLAYERS. THAT WAS BRANNIGAN'S JOB.

FUNNY HOW CHRIS HAS MANAGED 7

THATS 7 IN A MONTH

How did he do that

 

[1danewhitehouse]

FUNNY HOW CHRIS HAS MANAGED 7

THATS 7 IN A MONTH

How did he do that

Yes, it's hilarious.

Have a gold star

 

[blade too long]

Yes, it's hilarious.

Have a gold star

well its called hands on management
having a plan
then implementing it

its sort of in a managers remit

Chris didnt say I like that player
right thats my bit done

as you infer Adkins modus operandi was
Ive identified someone , now Ill sit back and do nothing at all

 

[1danewhitehouse]

well its called hands on management
having a plan
then implementing it

its sort of in a managers remit

Chris didnt say I like that player
right thats my bit done

as you infer Adkins modus operandi was
Ive identified someone , now Ill sit back and do nothing at all

No it's not. It's called coming in and having control of a retained list that allows you to dump 10 players straight away and re-build. It's called having the relative backing of the board. It's also called a new structure where Brannigan is no longer a part. But I don't really expect you to understand all this.

 

[blade too long]

No it's not. It's called coming in and having control of a retained list that allows you to dump 10 players straight away and re-build. It's called having the relative backing of the board. It's also called a new structure where Brannigan is no longer a part. But I don't really expect you to understand all this.

still no excuse for not altering the squad, and those 10 players hardly got a game
if you really want to get rid of players you can
ask hammond , chris paid for his taxi

structures , no matter how they are cobbled together
any decent manager will get the players he needs

how different can it be
can I have player , ,there are only 2 answers,
can we sign dan burn , do you mind hanging on 7 months, with any set up is ridiculous
any manager with half a brain cell wouldnt accept that

 

[Cerberus Blade]

interesting little row you're having chaps? May I join in?

BTL - you use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post - for support rather than illumination. The point 1DW is making about us weakening the squad by selling key players is irrefutable isn't it? You can't just turn around and quote a stat about subsequent league position as supporting evidence that the Maguire sale wasn't a retrograde step. It left a hole that hasn't been filled since.

1DW - tend to agree with most of what you've said - but not the poor excuses you are making for Adkins. To suggest for one moment that Adkins wasn't responsible for the signing of players is quite bizarre actually. He may not have been the person that ultimately authorised the contracts - but he identified who he wanted and those players were signed by the club on his recommendation. You're even suggesting the reason why Wilder has been different is because the guy Brannigan has gone! I'm getting the impression ye no liked the man Brannigan? What else can we blame him for I wonder?

 

[alcoblade]

still no excuse for not altering the squad, and those 10 players hardly got a game
if you really want to get rid of players you can
ask hammond , chris paid for his taxi

structures , no matter how they are cobbled together
any decent manager will get the players he needs

how different can it be
can I have player , ,there are only 2 answers,
can we sign dan burn , do you mind hanging on 7 months, with any set up is ridiculous
any manager with half a brain cell wouldnt accept that

Empty vessels / loud noises.

You're a sonic boom.

UTB

 

[Kenilworth]

I was wondering if it was feasible to add a sub folder to these threads called "tiff and handbags" or summat similar - so the rest of us can see stuff related to the OP and opinions on, not a series of "my cocks infinitely finer than yours" posts

Just a thought

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Nobody should be comparing 2013/14 to 2014/15 due to the disaster that was appointing David Weir. Let's use a better sample:

2013/14 under Clough: 39 points in 30 games (1.93 ppg, equivalent to 89 points for the season). 26 goals conceded in those 30 games (0.87 goals per game)
2014/15 under Clough: 71 points in 46 games (1.54 ppg). We conceded 53 goals that season (1.15 goals per game)

We were far, far better under Clough with Maguire in the team.

End of discussion.

Thank you.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I was wondering if it was feasible to add a sub folder to these threads called "tiff and handbags" or summat similar - so the rest of us can see stuff related to the OP and opinions on, not a series of "my cocks infinitely finer than yours" posts

Just a thought

 

[judge]

I was wondering if it was feasible to add a sub folder to these threads called "tiff and handbags" or summat similar - so the rest of us can see stuff related to the OP and opinions on, not a series of "my cocks infinitely finer than yours" posts

Just a thought

Put Barney on ignore
Has exactly that effect

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Clough's XI concede another four and the phone to Wilder might be red hot.

How long before deadline D(isaster) Day?

 

[Davie Blade]

Empty vessels / loud noises.

You're a sonic boom.

UTB

He's a Clough evangelical apologist.
Don't tell him that Adkins got us points wise nearer the autos than Clough ever did;
or his head may well go boom de boom.

 

[Slim Man]

Brayford is free to a good home if we can find a full back who can cross and defend.

 

[Bladesway]

He's a Clough evangelical apologist.
Don't tell him that Adkins got us points wise nearer the autos than Clough ever did;
or his head may well go boom de boom.

Who is? BTL? I would suggest that is as far from the truth as you can get.

As for your statement of Adkins getting us close to anything regarding promotion it's a lies, damn lies and statistics moment. Finishing 11th is nowhere near finishing 5th. The amount of points in a season is irrelevant because based on that Danny Wilson is a better manager than both. Really?

There are a million ways to sink BTL arguments but this isn't one.

 

[Balham]

End of discussion.

Thank you.

No problem, except that it wasn't the end of the discussion - there's 5 pages of bollocks posted after that

You can lead a horse to water and all that

 

[Bladesman]

Brayford is free to a good home if we can find a full back who can cross and defend.

Id sooner offload Hussey if his crossing is anything to go by. Pretty much every single cross on Saturday by him was overhit, I thought he was aiming for a Bolton fan (seat).

 

[nopigfansintown]

Id sooner offload Hussey if his crossing is anything to go by. Pretty much every single cross on Saturday by him was overhit, I thought he was aiming for a Bolton fan (seat).

Nice free kick for the Clarke missed sitter though.