Jay McEveley is...

[Slim Man]

People claiming this is an over reaction and not a reaction after a culmination of performances over the past 2 seasons where McEveley has continuously let us down, do you watch the same game? Or are you just trying to take the moral high ground against the evil blades madmen? Either of which are very strange.

At the end of the day I want to see Blades promoted. We won't get promoted with McEveley in the team for the rest of the season and as captain. He is shit. There is no other way to say it, get in the real world. Mistake after mistake, costly mistakes as well, the type that would be punished EVERY time in the Championship but fortunately for us and him this league is pretty wank.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Wrong. It's quite the opposite. He generally plays well and whenever he has a bad game everyone scapegoats him. I'm afraid he's just the latest whipping boy while some of his other team mates get away with equally piss poor displays.

He was our best player at Swindon but very few came forward to give him credit for that. If there's one thing that bores me about football at the moment is the supporters.

True , there is mistakes made all over the pitch , by ALL players , in any game , unfortunately his mistakes appear to be glaring and highlighted more , because they seem to cost us . Also it has got to the point , we all wait and look for them . When it gets to that situation , in any job , you just cannot win , whatever you do , especially if you are the designated leader.

Its not supporters , its life and society , and although wrong , the player is now in a percarious position , so is the team when he plays.

UTB

 

[Houso]

Wrong. It's quite the opposite. He generally plays well and whenever he has a bad game everyone scapegoats him. I'm afraid he's just the latest whipping boy while some of his other team mates get away with equally piss poor displays.

He was our best player at Swindon but very few came forward to give him credit for that. If there's one thing that bores me about football at the moment is the supporters.

It's all about opinions, but he really doesn't.

And you've just proven my point about highlighting his good performances. They're so rare that supporters of Jay get a semi at every half decent show he puts on.

 

[Worksop II]

appear to be glaring and highlighted more , because they seem to cost us . Also it has got to the point , we all wait and look for them

Maybe you are right, we do look for them, but for 60 mins he was what we wanted, did his job, didn't get forward, but steady.

Then ends up in the middle, why I dont know, it was a foul, but got himself into that position, and I can allow him that one.

But the 3rd goal, it was no more than a nudge, piss weak, but again he was on the wrong side of the pitch.

Whilever he played LB he was fine, anywhere else he seems to get in a lather

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

I hate threads like this. Nothing is categorically "shit". Maybe one of us trying to play against professionals would deserve that kind of blanket, black and white appraisal but I don't think it helps by having threads like this. It's certainly not constructive.

Nyron Notworthy? Marcus Williams? Jonny Ertl?

Maybe not categorically shit, but shit all the same. How can being constructive make them better, more useful, players?

I do wonder sometimes if those* who don't countenance criticism of individual players on football messageboards (because that's all it is), secretly hanker after bringing all these shit players back & to see us go against all logic by seeking to build a promotion-winning side around them.



(* Not singling you out personally here - I'm talking generally.)

 

[Bladesway]

He and JCR were our best players in the first half. My gripe at him is how he let his head drop after the first goal ,he isn't a leader in my opinion , but that is down to Atkins giving him the role due to lack of alternatives. We are desperately lacking one at the club and have done since Morgan retired ,priority and budget should be used on a dominant midfielder who can galvanise this team.

Thank fuck someone on here can be both critical and constructive at the same time. It's so bloody tedious listening to "He is shit, he is wank, we need to replace, I want a new one and I want it now". This post gets to the core of our problems since the Premiership. We got to the Premiership on the back of (like it or not) good organisation and above all great leadership. It wasn't pretty but it was effective. Unfortunately we have a vocal minority who must be heard, knocking anything and everything without having their own constructive. There isn't much wrong with this team and there wasn't much wrong with it last season. It needs a bit of strength and leadership in my opinion. Everyone appears to want to throw everything away every time we lose.

This OP is about as low and as disappointing as we could possibly get. I thought we were better than this but clearly not. The lambasting of a player like this doesn't help or solve anything, but of course the usual people will blast in with their "funny" commentary on how poor a player is. Having just won 4 on the spin I refuse to get downhearted about a single defeat. Thus far all I have heard (as predicted by many) is wind and piss about how utterly rubbish we are.

Perhaps we should have a Bi Polar Express section of the forum to throw all this shit into? Pinchy has a style about him but I can't help but agree with most of his content.

Newsflash : We are going to lose some games this season. I know it is hard for some to believe but it will happen.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Everyone appears to want to throw everything away every time we lose.

Really?

 

[Bladesway]

Really?

Yep, its all shit, the board are doing a terrible job the Murphy money has been squirrelled away never to be seen, the entire defence is awful, our midfield is full of midgets, there is no pace and Sammon and Sharp are suddenly not all that. Trawl the forum and you will see this every time we lose one game.

So yes, really.

 

[super_pig]

Jay if you are reading this you have a very simple problem that if you rectified might salvage your career. you overplay all the time. you are not lionel messi. get over it and be a good defender. keep it simple. there is a reason defenders don't play up front but it is still a vital job.

 

[Old AJ]

Thank fuck someone on here can be both critical and constructive at the same time. It's so bloody tedious listening to "He is shit, he is wank, we need to replace, I want a new one and I want it now". This post gets to the core of our problems since the Premiership. We got to the Premiership on the back of (like it or not) good organisation and above all great leadership. It wasn't pretty but it was effective. Unfortunately we have a vocal minority who must be heard, knocking anything and everything without having their own constructive. There isn't much wrong with this team and there wasn't much wrong with it last season. It needs a bit of strength and leadership in my opinion. Everyone appears to want to throw everything away every time we lose.

This OP is about as low and as disappointing as we could possibly get. I thought we were better than this but clearly not. The lambasting of a player like this doesn't help or solve anything, but of course the usual people will blast in with their "funny" commentary on how poor a player is. Having just won 4 on the spin I refuse to get downhearted about a single defeat. Thus far all I have heard (as predicted by many) is wind and piss about how utterly rubbish we are.

Perhaps we should have a Bi Polar Express section of the forum to throw all this shit into? Pinchy has a style about him but I can't help but agree with most of his content.

Newsflash : We are going to lose some games this season. I know it is hard for some to believe but it will happen.

Great post : But hope we don't loose many more just yet 7 or 8 a season if you want to go up in top 2!!!

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Yep, its all shit, the board are doing a terrible job the Murphy money has been squirrelled away never to be seen, the entire defence is awful, our midfield is full of midgets, there is no pace and Sammon and Sharp are suddenly not all that. Trawl the forum and you will see this every time we lose one game.

So yes, really.

You're exaggerating just a little. There's been all sorts of opinions expressed.

After a rubbish defeat at home to a club that hasn't won at the Lane since 1925, you're hardly going to see Blades joyfully dancing round maypoles in response.

 

[bartman]

True , there is mistakes made all over the pitch , by ALL players , in any game , unfortunately his mistakes appear to be glaring and highlighted more , because they seem to cost us . Also it has got to the point , we all wait and look for them . When it gets to that situation , in any job , you just cannot win , whatever you do , especially if you are the designated leader.

Its not supporters , its life and society , and although wrong , the player is now in a percarious position , so is the team when he plays.

UTB

agreed but barely any mention us made of Salmon's match changing error for the second goal yesterday which ultimately cost us the game . If McEverly had done that it would have been a different story.

 

[sitwell]

agreed but barely any mention us made of Salmon's matching changing error for the second goal yesterday. If McEverly had done that it would have been a different story.

If Clough had put Sammon out to left wing though ,he would have had 10 threads on here all titled Negative Nigel. It was a bad error on Atkins part ,he made several tactically yesterday ,and that's not with hindsight or just my opinion ,everyone around me was amazed at the substitutions ,both personnel and tactical.

 

[bartman]

If Clough had put Sammon out to left wing though ,he would have had 10 threads on here all titled Negative Nigel. It was a bad error on Atkins part ,he made several tactically yesterday ,and that's not with hindsight or just my opinion ,everyone around me was amazed at the substitutions ,both personnel and tactical.

Agree. The way the game was going I was amazed he changed the shape as up until their first goal you couldn't see them scoring

 

[diplomat]

Nyron Notworthy? Marcus Williams? Jonny Ertl?

Maybe not categorically shit, but shit all the same. How can being constructive make them better, more useful, players?

I do wonder sometimes if those* who don't countenance criticism of individual players on football messageboards (because that's all it is), secretly hanker after bringing all these shit players back & to see us go against all logic by seeking to build a promotion-winning side around them.



(* Not singling you out personally here - I'm talking generally.)

I get your point. I just don't think the public shaming/witchunt is good for the player, the team or indeed anything at all. The team I most associate myself with had John Gannon in the crucial CM position. Now he was vilified in the extreme despite being integral to a double promotion team and a mid table top flight side.

Prior to the Spurs away game (almost) everyone thought Jay was an excellent CH. now he's the worst player ever. Sadly neither are true he's somewhere in between.

You missed Jordan Stewart off your list of shame.

I don't mind criticism at all but only constructive criticism. Saying anything is shit just because it is doesn't deserve a thread.

 

[sitwell]

Howard didn't make a save until the shape changed ,we then concede 3 and he make 2 saves. They were shitting themselves when JCR got the ball ,personally I think the strikers let us down yesterday more than McEvelley ,Sammon and Sharp were lethargic and poor.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

You're exaggerating just a little. There's been all sorts of opinions expressed.

After a rubbish defeat at home to a club that hasn't won at the Lane since 1925, you're hardly going to see Blades joyfully dancing round maypoles in response.

Not in September, no. I love the Maypole dance in The Wicker Man. It's only a matter of time before our torch-bearing friends put Jay in a giant sacrificial bonfire.

 

[super_pig]

Not in September, no. I love the Maypole dance in The Wicker Man. It's only a matter of time before our torch-bearing friends put Jay in a giant sacrificial bonfire.

i can fit this in for monday afternoon.. what are everyone elses plans??

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

I get your point. I just don't think the public shaming/witchunt is good for the player, the team or indeed anything at all. The team I most associate myself with had John Gannon in the crucial CM position. Now he was vilified in the extreme despite being integral to a double promotion team and a mid table top flight side.

Prior to the Spurs away game (almost) everyone thought Jay was an excellent CH. now he's the worst player ever. Sadly neither are true he's somewhere in between.

You missed Jordan Stewart off your list of shame.

I don't mind criticism at all but only constructive criticism. Saying anything is shit just because it is doesn't deserve a thread.

Admit it, you want to see Jordan Stewart back here in Jay's place, don't you?

 

[Bladesway]

You're exaggerating just a little. There's been all sorts of opinions expressed.

After a rubbish defeat at home to a club that hasn't won at the Lane since 1925, you're hardly going to see Blades joyfully dancing round maypoles in response.

No I am not if you choose to read you will see it all there. As for dancing round the maypole what a ridiculous comment. Sitwell isn't dancing round the maypole but neither is he chucking himself off a cliff and lambasting individuals. Guess you can tell those who actually have had some involvement in the game over those late arrivals who know everything but really know nothing.

Oh and a team that hasn't won at the Lane for 90 years is utterly irrelevant. You play a team for 90 minutes and you may beat them or they may beat you. History is only in a fans mind and doesn't change the result one bit.

 

[Bladesway]

Great post : But hope we don't loose many more just yet 7 or 8 a season if you want to go up in top 2!!!

Fair point but if we win 4 and lose 1 of every 5 games we play I am guessing we will not do too badly.

 

[LSF]

No I am not if you choose to read you will see it all there. As for dancing round the maypole what a ridiculous comment. Sitwell isn't dancing round the maypole but neither is he chucking himself off a cliff and lambasting individuals. Guess you can tell those who actually have had some involvement in the game over those late arrivals who know everything but really know nothing.

Oh and a team that hasn't won at the Lane for 90 years is utterly irrelevant. You play a team for 90 minutes and you may beat them or they may beat you. History is only in a fans mind and doesn't change the result one bit.

Thank fuck for the likes of you and Sitwell (and one two more may I add). I'm afraid this board has deteriorated significantly over the past 6 months with some of the shite now posted (a reason I rarely contribute these days).
Yesterday we lost to a physical bunch of gamesmanship experts, we should have won it on chances and possession, but football occasionally kicks you in the nuts. One of our defenders made two Rick's and paid for it dearly, but quite why some dick has to start such a vindictive thread such as this, is way beyond my comprehension of supporting your football team...

 

[Rodley]

Thank fuck for the likes of you and Sitwell (and one two more may I add). I'm afraid this board has deteriorated significantly over the past 6 months with some of the shite now posted (a reason I rarely contribute these days).
Yesterday we lost to a physical bunch of gamesmanship experts, we should have won it on chances and possession, but football occasionally kicks you in the nuts. One of our defenders made two Rick's and paid for it dearly, but quite why some dick has to start such a vindictive thread such as this, is way beyond my comprehension of supporting your football team...

It's life these days. You're either one opinion or the other, there's no reasoned debate. It's black or white.

 

[Liaminho9]

McEverley is not a captain. His attitude today was the worst part for me.
His foul/booking. Irrelevant if you get the ball, you cannot go through the back of a player like that. And to whinge and whine at the referee, and walk over to shout abuse at the player he's just fouled is outright pathetic and childish. Could have had a second booking for that, bearing in mind the ref did book one of theirs for dissent.
Their first goal. Right in front of me, Clarke got the ball. As much as i hate Clarke, it wasn't a foul. Again, McEverely's reaction is to pick up the ball and go whinging to the referee again. Man up and own up to your mistakes.
The 'Fight'.
As players were grappling with each other, he was the last person there. Not there straight away to calm our players down and try to diffuse the situation, aside from Howard he is the last person there. And to top it off, without going to speak to those involved (Freeman & Sharp) he takes a wide berth and goes to get a drink.
Third Goal. Yes there might have been a push by Clarke, but again, McEverley would rather continue to appeal for a foul, rather than pressure Clarke, leaving him with a simple finish.

Bottom Line, McEverley is not fit to wear that armband.

 

[Sean Thornton]

• McEverley is not a captain. His attitude today was the worst part for me.

His foul/booking. Irrelevant if you get the ball, you cannot go through the back of a player like that. And to whinge and whine at the referee, and walk over to shout abuse at the player he's just fouled is outright pathetic and childish. Could have had a second booking for that, bearing in mind the ref did book one of theirs for dissent.
Their first goal. Right in front of me, Clarke got the ball. As much as i hate Clarke, it wasn't a foul. Again, McEverely's reaction is to pick up the ball and go whinging to the referee again. Man up and own up to your mistakes.
The 'Fight'.
As players were grappling with each other, he was the last person there. Not there straight away to calm our players down and try to diffuse the situation, aside from Howard he is the last person there. And to top it off, without going to speak to those involved (Freeman & Sharp) he takes a wide berth and goes to get a drink.
Third Goal. Yes there might have been a push by Clarke, but again, McEverley would rather continue to appeal for a foul, rather than pressure Clarke, leaving him with a simple finish.

Bottom Line, McEverley is not fit to wear that armband.

It looked to me like the player jumped and JMc didn't go through the back of him where he was holding his leg. His reaction certainly fitted their gameplan.

Abusing a ref who was too fucking stupid to see the Bury player deliberately standing in our half for a kick off doesn't seen unduly unfair. The SS linesman was pretty useless as well.

 

[Sean Thornton]

It looked to me like the player jumped and JMc didn't go through the back of him where he was holding his leg. His reaction certainly fitted their gameplan.

Abusing a ref who was too fucking stupid to see the Bury player deliberately standing in our half for a kick off doesn't seen unduly unfair. The SS linesman was pretty useless as well.

Not a defence of his captaincy btw. He's no leader at all as you say.

 

[Silent Blade]

Take your pick.

Disgusting poll

 

[alcoblade]

People claiming this is an over reaction and not a reaction after a culmination of performances over the past 2 seasons where McEveley has continuously let us down, do you watch the same game? Or are you just trying to take the moral high ground against the evil blades madmen? Either of which are very strange.

At the end of the day I want to see Blades promoted. We won't get promoted with McEveley in the team for the rest of the season and as captain. He is shit. There is no other way to say it, get in the real world. Mistake after mistake, costly mistakes as well, the type that would be punished EVERY time in the Championship but fortunately for us and him this league is pretty wank.

I'd go for just juvenile. It's the type of wank thread that made Blades Mad, and separated this site from it.

I wish some of you fuckers would just do one.

UTB

 

[Guesty]

Howard didn't make a save until the shape changed ,we then concede 3 and he make 2 saves. They were shitting themselves when JCR got the ball ,personally I think the strikers let us down yesterday more than McEvelley ,Sammon and Sharp were lethargic and poor.

Got to agree with some of this, our 'Championship Strikeforce' has flattered to deceive on occasions and I certainly don't think they're all they're cracked up to be. Campbell-Ryce must be pig sick, in consecutive home games Sammon has missed absolute sitters from his crosses. Yet Campbell-Ryce is the one who is hauled off. He may have been injured though, I suppose.

That said, we've given three goals away with bad mistakes yesterday. Pissing about with the ball then failing to clear for the first, not putting any pressure on any Bury player for ages for the second and McEveley losing out for the third. Maybe he was pushed (didn't look like it from the Kop but admittedly I was miles away) but any defender worth his salt wouldn't have been robbed in that position regardless.

There were serious problems at both ends of the pitch yesterday, which is worrying.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

It's all about opinions, but he really doesn't.

And you've just proven my point about highlighting his good performances. They're so rare that supporters of Jay get a semi at every half decent show he puts on.

It's not just about opinions. It's about agendas. Ones that distort the truth.