CONFIRMED Jay McCeveley

[alcoblade]

....and although this is unspeakable on here, we should always hold a healthy dose of scepticism. Clough has achieved one promotion in about 15 years (though that would have been 2 is he'd stayed at Burton). It seems to be the widely the view that in Clough we should give our complete trust, when in reality it's unclear why he's earned that status. That said, I am very peased that he's our manager right now.

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[blader]

Surely the World cup proved that a team is much more important than individuals ,with many of the higher achieving countries playing players who we have never heard of in place of big names. I believe Clough is following the same format and getting players that suit his agenda to build a squad and team that is capable and comfortable in its structure.

The semis consisted of Brazil,Netherlands, Argentina and Germany. Of the 92 players in those squads I knew them all as would any other football fan, so not sure I agree with that statement. I assume wha you're getting at was that Spain went out early.

However, a squad with a good 11 with poor backups would do better that 18 average players almost always.

 

[Latters]

The semis consisted of Brazil,Netherlands, Argentina and Germany. Of the 92 players in those squads I knew them all as would any other football fan, so not sure I agree with that statement. I assume wha you're getting at was that Spain went out early.

However, a squad with a good 11 with poor backups would do better that 18 average players almost always.

My point exactly. It is no use having plenty of back up, if the first team aren't good enough.

The thing is, we wouldn't even have poor back-ups. Our youngsters proved they were more than capable of stepping up when required against Rotherham. Now, if we had a really strong first eleven, and only had to use one or two youngsters at a time due to injuries or suspensions, it would be easier for the team to adapt and the better players could carry them, to some extent.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

The semis consisted of Brazil,Netherlands, Argentina and Germany. Of the 92 players in those squads I knew them all as would any other football fan, so not sure I agree with that statement. I assume wha you're getting at was that Spain went out early.

However, a squad with a good 11 with poor backups would do better that 18 average players almost always.

Mmmm, it's a massive gamble though putting all your eggs in one basket. A key player missing and it can quickly crumble, I hate to bring him up, but I'll whisper it.

Look what happened when we lost Ched Evans!

 

[blader]

Mmmm, it's a massive gamble though putting all your eggs in one basket. A key player missing and it can quickly crumble, I hate to bring him up, but I'll whisper it.

Look what happened when we lost Ched Evans!

It is a gamble no doubt, but I still think you give yourself more of a chance with quality over quantity. We have ample back ups for ample starters, I don't believe that wins you games.

 

[sitwell]

Compare the performances of Colombia ,Costa rica ,Mexico and Usa with Spain , Brazil and England ,who always seem obsessed by their big name players instead of the team.

 

[alcoblade]

Compare the performances of Colombia ,Costa rica ,Mexico and Usa with Spain , Brazil and England ,who always seem obsessed by their big name players instead of the team.

It's a good point Sitters, but the wider point is that the second bunch have won about 6 or 7 world cups between them, the first group none.

Obviously, it's better to have the best payers blended into the best teams.But there's no escaping it, the best players win things.

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[Worksop_Blade]

Some of you lot need to get a grip. Signing big name players won't guarantee promotion, ask Bryan Robson.

The clubs that get promoted from League One generally do so by signing steady League One players and the odd Championship player.

Here's a radical thought, Nigel Clough knows a LOT more about football players and what's needed to improve a squad he works with every day and not once a week for 90 minutes after a few beers.

 

[wizadry]

Some of you lot need to get a grip. Signing big name players won't guarantee promotion, ask Bryan Robson.

The clubs that get promoted from League One generally do so by signing steady League One players and the odd Championship player.

Here's a radical thought, Nigel Clough knows a LOT more about football players and what's needed to improve a squad he works with every day and not once a week for 90 minutes after a few beers.

Although i'm not one of those jumping on the bandwagon,and Clough might know a bit more about his players than us,that shouldn't stop people been aloud to air their views as everything isn't always as rosy as it looks.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Some of you lot need to get a grip. Signing big name players won't guarantee promotion, ask Bryan Robson.

The clubs that get promoted from League One generally do so by signing steady League One players and the odd Championship player.

Here's a radical thought, Nigel Clough knows a LOT more about football players and what's needed to improve a squad he works with every day and not once a week for 90 minutes after a few beers.

Good contribution Worksop_Blade, it doesn't mean any of us follow slavishly, but the level of knee-jerk I've witnessed recently makes me wonder what grip some of our supporters have on the realities of running this club? We all look in from the outside, we're never part of the decision making process, we have no idea of why deals do or do not happen, yet conclusions are drawn based on the most limited understanding of the above.

Well said mate.

 

[alcoblade]

Good contribution Worksop_Blade, it doesn't mean any of us follow slavishly, but the level of knee-jerk I've witnessed recently makes me wonder what grip some of our supporters have on the realities of running this club? We all look in from the outside, we're never part of the decision making process, we have no idea of why deals do or do not happen, yet conclusions are drawn based on the most limited understanding of the above.

Well said mate.

But a few pebbles can make a big splash. There are a lot of people slightly disappointed by the level of ambition shown by the club, based on certain expectations that have been set. There aren't many writing us off, or indeed writing off the individual players.

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[Bladesman]

I see he came on today and did fuck all.

 

[IOM Blade]

I see he came on today and did fuck all.

On the left fucking wing!

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

Brilliant signing! Anybody who says the board aren't backing the manager are clearly imbesciles. Just look at the quality we're signing!

 

[Latters]

Brilliant signing! Anybody who says the board aren't backing the manager are clearly imbesciles. Just look at the quality we're signing!

Well I'm certainly eating my words.

I'm glad we've got such a strong squad now. They're really showing that I needn't have worried.

In fact, I'm just glad I've still got a club to support...

 

[metalblade]

Great to see a left back can come on for a right winger, gotta love these versatile players. maybe JCR can do a job at left back ?

 

[WeareBlades]

Just thought I would bump this so the slashers can look back at their comments after the solid game he had yesterday.

 

[Grecian2000]

Wow, what next a whole apology thread as well?

 

[WeareBlades]

Wow, what next a whole apology thread as well?

Noop. Just to help 'fans' to stop being so negative towards the club in the future

 

[itsinyerblood]

I took a look at some of the critiques of McEveley on the first page of this thread.

I doubt we're much different to many clubs when it comes to someone lighting a fire and other poster's being caught alight with hysterical overkill? Why don't those who give a new signing a thumbs down, even before seeing them play for us, take a deep breath and be patient before reaching a conclusion? So you're not impressed? Dear oh dear, the displays of knee-jerk hostility that I see on here are nothing short of the blind leading the blind. Do yourselves a favour, return to some of those posts and see the quality of comment I'm referring to. It's abysmal, almost to the point where, if there's nothing to complain about, you'll create something.

Wouldn't it be sensible (there's a word that some on here won't be familiar with) to judge a player on his overall performances after about 10 games? Or maybe the blood lust will have gotten a grip long before then and you won't be able to contain yourselves?

By all means criticise, but do not base your appreciation of a player (perhaps that should read lack of appreciation) on a report you've discovered somewhere else. That's tired and extremely lazy, especially if you want other posters to believe that you actually know what you're talking about?

Seems that McEveley had a steady and significant contribution at Peterborough. We've got him at a good age, he's been around a while, has bags of experience, and along with the likes of Butler, Collins, Davies, and Doyle, this will prove invaluable if we intend to make a promotion push this season. If he deserves stick then I'm sure there'll be plenty of volunteers all too ready to pick up that offer. Just once in a while, before you blow a gasket, can those who consider it a healthy and constructive approach to commenting on the team they say they're meant to support, take a deep breath before letting loose and firing off one of these predictable and repetitive posts? The guy played well, so why not eat your words and show you're able to support as well as criticise?

Final point, I think I've spelt his name correctly. I only mention it because by the time the lynch-mob decide to join hands at the first 'sign' of a 'poor' signing at least spell the victim's name right before you hang 'em.

 

[sheffielder]

Wow, what next a whole apology thread as well?

Stop having opinions will you!

 

[Grecian2000]

Just once in a while, before you blow a gasket, can those who consider it a healthy and constructive approach to commenting on the team they say they're meant to support, take a deep breath before letting loose and firing off one of these predictable and repetitive posts? The guy played well, so why not eat your words and show you're able to support as well as criticise?

In a word, WHY?

Someone signs you have an opinion (or in my case as I couldn't remember ever having seen him NO opinion). Is the only acceptable response "Great signing Blades"? What a dull site that would make, although we could all feel nice and cosy in our blanket covered world.

Since when weren't you allowed to express an alternate opinion? That's nowt but bonkers. If you call him a wanker and he turns out to be the next Len Badger then whose going to look like a daft twat? Not him that's for sure (and you're bound to have someone bring it up aren't you?).

Debate away chaps, that's what makes this site worth reading.

 

[itsinyerblood]

In a word, WHY?

Someone signs you have an opinion (or in my case as I couldn't remember ever having seen him NO opinion). Is the only acceptable response "Great signing Blades"? What a dull site that would make, although we could all feel nice and cosy in our blanket covered world.

Since when weren't you allowed to express an alternate opinion? That's nowt but bonkers. If you call him a wanker and he turns out to be the next Len Badger then whose going to look like a daft twat? Not him that's for sure (and you're bound to have someone bring it up aren't you?).

Debate away chaps, that's what makes this site worth reading.

Do you recall that I mentioned banning opinions? Clearly you've jumped to a conclusion and not fully read what I wrote.

I just happen to have given mine, but please, if you're going to comment on what I've said make sure you've actually read my post rather than take a momentary glance, seems fair I'd have thought? Trouble with your comment about who might look foolish is that very few have the wherewithal to say as much. The whole point was, now read carefully, criticism where it's due, not based on a thread posted elsewhere about someone who is still to play for us?

 

[wizadry]

In a word, WHY?

Someone signs you have an opinion (or in my case as I couldn't remember ever having seen him NO opinion). Is the only acceptable response "Great signing Blades"? What a dull site that would make, although we could all feel nice and cosy in our blanket covered world.

Since when weren't you allowed to express an alternate opinion? That's nowt but bonkers. If you call him a wanker and he turns out to be the next Len Badger then whose going to look like a daft twat? Not him that's for sure (and you're bound to have someone bring it up aren't you?).

Debate away chaps, that's what makes this site worth reading.

Yes,and to be fair to them what don't rate him,he's had one steady game,that doesn't mean he's brilliant yet.It works both ways.Lets see what he's like after a run in the side,if he gets one,and on yesterdays performance he doesn't deserve to be dropped so he should get the run of games required to see if the chaps good enough.

 

[wizadry]

The thing i don't like is when someone doesn't rate a player for whatever reason,this leads to the people who never hear a bad word said about the club,and they know who they are,come on and say i bet you can't wait to say i told you so,but then when that player in question has a decent game,they come on and start saying i told you so.Like i said it works both ways

 

[Grecian2000]

The whole point was, now read carefully, criticism where it's due, not based on a thread posted elsewhere about someone who is still to play for us?

Wow, even more condescending than the first post.

I read all your first post and, it quite clearly stated, we should wait and see how a player performs before we have an opinion (10 games appeared to be your optimum).

However, and if you'd read my post carefully (see two can play that particular game) you'd see I'm saying a new signing is about instant opinion. If I don't know a player (as in this case) I'm interested what others think. Won't matter a shit at the end of the day because I'll form my own opinion when I've seen him play, but til then . . . .

For what it's worth I've sort of stopped instant opinions since I claimed Lee Hendrie was the missing link and promotion would be a formality.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

For what it's worth I've sort of stopped instant opinions since I claimed Lee Hendrie was the missing link and promotion would be a formality.

Nearly as good as my insistence that because they'd had a great partnership at Gillingham, Iffy Onuora was the ideal signing to play alongside Asaba...

 

[itsinyerblood]

Wow, even more condescending than the first post.

I read all your first post and, it quite clearly stated, we should wait and see how a player performs before we have an opinion (10 games appeared to be your optimum).

However, and if you'd read my post carefully (see two can play that particular game) you'd see I'm saying a new signing is about instant opinion. If I don't know a player (as in this case) I'm interested what others think. Won't matter a shit at the end of the day because I'll form my own opinion when I've seen him play, but til then . . . .

For what it's worth I've sort of stopped instant opinions since I claimed Lee Hendrie was the missing link and promotion would be a formality.

Oh dear......let me see if I can make this any clearer? As for condescending, all depends on how eager you are to reply before reading content in detail.

Instant opinion is fine, but even before a player's kicked a ball for the Blades? Because that's what I originally commented on. A bit like judging a song without having heard it I'd have thought. As for two playing whatever game you're referring to, you've lost me...but I'll continue anyway. Regarding a supporter forming an opinion, wouldn't have it any other way. If anyone chooses to post about a new signing, even before they've played a game, then that's their nature.

As for the 10 games comment, it was based on the early showings from players such as Flynn and Murphy, and the then and now versions are completely different. But by all means use whatever criteria you feel happiest with, but as you've offered up, your instant opinion hasn't been that reliable in the past. We all get opinions of players wrong, I'm still in two minds about Baxter. Played great last night it seems, but it's his consistency that's concerned me. If he can crack that particular nut I'll support the guy without a murmur. Good player no doubt, just not often enough for my liking.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

The thing i don't like is when someone doesn't rate a player for whatever reason,this leads to the people who never hear a bad word said about the club,and they know who they are,come on and say i bet you can't wait to say i told you so,but then when that player in question has a decent game,they come on and start saying i told you so.Like i said it works both ways

Are you still sore about my Davies in central midfield suggestion and then he scored from there?

 

[Linz]

Ahem gents.

It would be very disappointing to discover that you are not being civil to one another following a good performance and a United win.

Very disappointing indeed...