Is Cannon shit?

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Cannon?

  • Shit

    Votes: 99 59.3%
  • Unsuited

    Votes: 68 40.7%

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Or does he just not suit us?

We can all agree it's not working and he's been a major flop. My opinion is he doesn't suit us. And that's telling by the fact that only one of our strikers has looked good all season. But I understand the other POV also.

Interested on the read here.
 

I'll just repeat some of what I said in shoutbox earlier.

I have never seen a player so out of sync with his team mates as Cannon. I don't know if it is his fault for not properly understanding our tactics, or the rest of the team's fault for not understanding how he plays.

I am struggling to think of a lot of genuine chances that he has been involved in, and when they have come along (such as a couple of breakaways vs Cov) he has made the wrong decisions. But otherwise it has felt like he is feeding on scraps, and very small ones at that.

At the start of the season with Moore as CF, we could play long and rely on him to hold things up. Then Campbell got going and we used his pace and strength to play in behind defences. Cannon doesn't seem to do either, but we aren't giving him anything else to work with.
 
Shit player or shit signing, either way it's pretty shit to sign anyone who doesn't suit you nowadays.... it's not like you're getting tips off a tealady, there's coverage, stats and data bloody everywhere so no excuse. So if he's shit or not, pretty shit from whoever signed him.
 
The RoysView warned us that he plays well with a partner but is useless up top on his own.
I’d play Campbell and O’Hare or Hamer just off him.

As first change I’d bring Moore and Cannon am as a pair. Not expect the latter to ploughed a lone furrow.

Perhaps then he can be judged. As play him as a lone striker we may as well play Cooper there. It’s not his role.

Then again Wilder and Knill have got this wrong before. Callum Robinson wasn’t a centre forward and McBurnie wasn’t a target man.
 
Almost every team plays a low block against us so opportunities to spin in behind are limited. We don't get the ball forward early anyway so his movement in behind is unlikely to get rewarded.

It's interesting if you see where the first phase of United's goal yesterday came from 👀. Totally uncultured by the way, but it still worked better than threading the eye of the needle most of the time. There was one opportunity to slip Cannon one on one with the goalkeeper yesterday. Unfortunately O'Hare didn't pick his head up and play it. If United want him to drop in, link it and arrive late (ala Kane/Firminho) he doesn't look that type. If we want to play him like Moore or Campbell we're barking up the wrong tree. He's a shoulder player that needs through balls and cutbacks.
 
First off I don’t think he really wanted to be here. He was a young PL club player and came to the club that was humiliated the previous season in that league. I’d liken it to Brewster, he didn’t want to leave Liverpool to come to little old Sheffield United.

Next watching those four goals (3 of which were top drawer) says there’s a player in there. However, watch those highlights again and Stoke were pushing players up. Passes were forwards and quick, no slow/slow, slow/slow/slow (to the waltz beat ;)) build up.

How many outfield goals have we scored like that this season, 1 springs to mind from Campbell.

He’s isolated, think it was 11 touches in 70mins yesterday. Wilders obviously playing him up front alone but the supports not there, there’s very few crosses, no one running at defences or through the channels (Hamers job but he’s not left doing BBD’s job). There was a shot of Wilder yesterday screaming “too narrow, too narrow” and gesturing to get it out wide. Fine if a) you then cross it in b) there are players in the middle to pass it to.

Cannon looks terrified like a new kid in class with no mates and as Wilder put it “the shirt is heavy”. Wilder created this situation, he wanted Cannon like he stubbornly wanted Brewster.

Think about it from Cannon’s point of view
1. He cost £10 million pounds
2. He is playing second fiddle to a player on a run
3. The player he is playing second fiddle to (Campbell) was rejected by the same club Cannon was on loan with, Stoke. Not sure of exact dates but Cannon coming in might coincide with Campbell being rejected.
4. Campbell came from a club on a free with his career in tatters after being replaced by a loan player from the PL, none other than Tom Cannon.

No wonder the shirt weighs a feckin tonne! It’s like turning up for a new top job and walking through the door only to realise you are working for your secretary Ho was fired by your old firm (ok poor analogy but you know what I mean).

Lads in a difficult situation unless he outshines Campbell who’s been on a roll but frankly, has looked well off the pace last 3 games. Unless Cannon can get game time, Wilder starts playing attacking football and Cannon starts getting service and banging them in we’ll never know.

So in conclusion I’m not going to call Cannon out based on the above. However, he’s in a no win situation based on circumstances outside his doing with almost zero chance of winning over very angry fans looking for scape goats and not culprits.

Conclusion, we’ll sell him at a massive loss and he’ll go to a club with an attack minded philosophy and slowly build a career then get sold up the leagues for good money and become a decent if not good striker.

It’s like me, I’m reyt good at DIY (no ladder jokes please). I can knock stuff out, stick stuff up, paint it neutral and present a very nice space. Now ask me to pick curtains, coordinated decor, matching furnature nah. In their own right the green settees are top quality but with a red carpet and yellow curtains it does not work.

So please let’s not all blame Cannon, I’m starting to see him more of a victim in this sh!t show of a crumbling season.
 
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Very unsuited. He doesn't have the pace or strength to play up top on his own, he needs a strike partner the do the dirty work or a team that get there wingers and midfield pushing up in support an overloading these low blocks we seem to be struggling with. One up top is just to easy defend against when your isolated have no support an your team just move the ball sideways sideways sideways back sideways. Our possession stats are over inflated by the amount the ball is played about in our own half of the pitch.
 

Nonsense. Sharp fashioned out his own chances, linked up play and made impactful runs.

Sharp very rarely created his own chances and very rarely scored a goal from a run off the shoulder. Most of his Blades goals were in the box from cut backs, passes or low crosses.
 
He's really, properly bad.

It's one thing to be in a team not geared towards your strengths, it's another to decide that means you do don't have to contribute in the slightest. He's not done anything whatsoever in the games I've seen the make the lives of the Centre Halves difficult, he doesn't put himself about or link pla, and he's weak as a kitten.

I'm genuinely astounded anyone saw his performance at Bramall Lane for Stoke and thought he was a player we needed to sign, and clearly a glut of goals in one game has skewed impressions of him.
 
There was a comment from a Stoke fan about him not being clever enough to understand complex instructions and he looks like someone who has just joined a new school, doesn't know anyone and they kids don't like him.

He can't play upfront on his own and yet he's signed by a manager who plays with a lone striker. What pisses me off about him is that he's one of those players who doesn't even bother to compete for headers. There's no service but there's not the greatest amount of effort to get involved.

He needs to play next to Moore but he won't because Campbell is ahead of them both.

Seems like the most stupid signing since that lad from Liverpool who hadn't a clue at how to play as a striker in men's football.
 
Wilder could be sacked for insanity if yesterday antics are not enough.

Insanity is repeating the same actions and expecting a different result.

In 2020
we desperately needed a CB to replace JoC who was clearly fucked though Wilder didn't want to believe it.

Instead we spunked £20m on a striker who was in Wilder's own words "one for the future"
Translation " not ready for first team or even men's football.

We collapsed in a heap.

In 2025
we desperately needed a CB for two reasons
1.We lost Souttar who was not only an excellent CB but a calm leader on the pitch.
2.everyone knew that despite (bizarrely) being made captain , the crude thug Robbo had neither the stature nor the skill nor the temperament to replace Souttar.

Instead we spunked £10m on another dud striker based on very little evidence of his usefulness to us , just as with Brewster.

The repetition of these two interlinked unforgivable errors of judgement has , would you believe it , collapsed us into a heap ...
throwing away an auto spot , which is probably more harmful than the 2020 error , because the 2020 team was probably getting relegated anyway , with or without the error.

That said , Wilder knew his failure and his psyche couldn't take it. So he walked before relegation.

But this season , in Wilder's second coming , 4 games ago we were in pole position (despite playing worse football all season than Leeds & Burnley) to pip one of them to an auto spot.

I just can't see Wilder's mentality surviving a second time.
I firmly believe he is "gone" whether we go up or stay down.

If we stay down , I hope he walks , for his own mental health.
If we go up , the owners are not going to risk the required £investment for PL survival on the decisions of such a calamitous nature as Wilder can make , to say nothing of his slow boring tactics , bizarre selections & substitutions and his adolescent behaviour.

The Wilder era ,

in the words of Vini Jones in 'Lock , Stock & Two Smoking Barrels' ....

"It's been emotional"

and not necessarily always in a good way
 
There was a comment in Roy's view from for Cannon that I think about often. It went something like " Cannon has all the ability but he is so painfully stupid it's almost impossible to coach any tactics into him"
 
Nonsense. Sharp fashioned out his own chances, linked up play and made impactful runs.

Correct. Sharp did hold the ball up and link the game better.

Not at 22 years old at the top of championship he didn’t.

He was in his 30s when he became clever enough to do that stuff at this level. He also had a strike partner for the vast majority of his games in that spell.
 
No matter how good or bad our strikers are, none of them look impressive as they rarely receive the ball quickly enough and rarely have support.
 
Almost every team plays a low block against us so opportunities to spin in behind are limited. We don't get the ball forward early anyway so his movement in behind is unlikely to get rewarded.

It's interesting if you see where the first phase of United's goal yesterday came from 👀. Totally uncultured by the way, but it still worked better than threading the eye of the needle most of the time. There was one opportunity to slip Cannon one on one with the goalkeeper yesterday. Unfortunately O'Hare didn't pick his head up and play it. If United want him to drop in, link it and arrive late (ala Kane/Firminho) he doesn't look that type. If we want to play him like Moore or Campbell we're barking up the wrong tree. He's a shoulder player that needs through balls and cutbacks.
People keep saying he's a shoulder player but you need pace to play that way eg Vardy.
Cannon is not quick enough
 
He's really, properly bad.

It's one thing to be in a team not geared towards your strengths, it's another to decide that means you do don't have to contribute in the slightest. He's not done anything whatsoever in the games I've seen the make the lives of the Centre Halves difficult, he doesn't put himself about or link pla, and he's weak as a kitten.

I'm genuinely astounded anyone saw his performance at Bramall Lane for Stoke and thought he was a player we needed to sign, and clearly a glut of goals in one game has skewed impressions of him.
Exactly, the player who was subbed at half time because he was totally ineffective.
 
People keep saying he's a shoulder player but you need pace to play that way eg Vardy.
Cannon is not quick enough

You need good movement and to be able to time your runs. A bit of pace helps but there's no need to be rapid. You get goal side of the last defender and it's over. My favourite striker ever is Robbie Fowler. Little strength, little height, far from rapid. Goal machine until his injuries.
 
Not at 22 years old at the top of championship he didn’t.

He was in his 30s when he became clever enough to do that stuff at this level. He also had a strike partner for the vast majority of his games in that spell.

Agreed. Wasn't fit enough either.
 
he cant score on the bench never starts much,,AARRR hes new he will be a kop legend youll see i back tom cannon hes class so please give a guy a break hes proven in 2nd tier he will score for fun very soon lets hope he saved his goals for the play offs nuff said ..
 

Or does he just not suit us?

We can all agree it's not working and he's been a major flop. My opinion is he doesn't suit us. And that's telling by the fact that only one of our strikers has looked good all season. But I understand the other POV also.

Interested on the read here.
How do I tick both?
 

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