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Would it have been much like this one? With many ageing players like Mccall,Peschi,Windass,Nuddy,Allison etc all past it for the top flight or would Mccabe have spent big then compared to a few years later due to the amount of end of career players we had? Always on my mind that season.
 

s20Blade said:
Would it have been much like this one? With many ageing players like Mccall,Peschi,Windass,Nuddy,Allison etc all past it for the top flight or would Mccabe have spent big then compared to a few years later due to the amount of end of career players we had? Always on my mind that season.
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Good question. I’d be more inclined to say we’d stay up. Reason why is because yes we had an aging squad of professionals, but that team Warnock inherited a side like I’ve not seen ever again since then sadly. What was the key ingredient you ask? FIGHT. Full stop. Along with passion. Every one of those players from that 02/03 era would go through blood, sweat and tears for this club at the time. We were never beaten and we never gave up. Plus it would have been more of a level playing field back then with no oil investors buying the Premiership(as it was). So in answer to your question, we’d have stayed up with a few games to spare with Brownie being top scorer for us once again
 
s20Blade said:
Would it have been much like this one? With many ageing players like Mccall,Peschi,Windass,Nuddy,Allison etc all past it for the top flight or would Mccabe have spent big then compared to a few years later due to the amount of end of career players we had? Always on my mind that season.
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Mccabe didn't spend big in 06/07 so doubt he would've then. (Spent about 15m)
 
It’s funny because I know there is the old adage of needing new blood but I also wonder about if we’d kept Warnock and kept together most of the 06/07 relegated team.

Notwithstanding Jags had a clause to go:

G: Kenny, Bennett
Def: Kozluk, Fathy, Geary, Armstrong, Morgan, Bromby, Kilgallon, Lucketti, Davis
Mid: Gillespie, Leigertwood, Monty, Alan Quinn, Stephen Quinn, Tonge
Att: Hulse, Stead, Shelton, Webber, Nade, Amazon-Richards
 
Champagneblade said:
It’s funny because I know there is the old adage of needing new blood but I also wonder about if we’d kept Warnock and kept together most of the 06/07 relegated team.

Notwithstanding Jags had a clause to go:

G: Kenny, Bennett
Def: Kozluk, Fathy, Geary, Armstrong, Morgan, Bromby, Kilgallon, Lucketti, Davis
Mid: Gillespie, Leigertwood, Monty, Alan Quinn, Stephen Quinn, Tonge
Att: Hulse, Stead, Shelton, Webber, Nade, Amazon-Richards
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Amazon-Richards had very much a long and winding career ;)
 
Champagneblade said:
It’s funny because I know there is the old adage of needing new blood but I also wonder about if we’d kept Warnock and kept together most of the 06/07 relegated team.

Notwithstanding Jags had a clause to go:

G: Kenny, Bennett
Def: Kozluk, Fathy, Geary, Armstrong, Morgan, Bromby, Kilgallon, Lucketti, Davis
Mid: Gillespie, Leigertwood, Monty, Alan Quinn, Stephen Quinn, Tonge
Att: Hulse, Stead, Shelton, Webber, Nade, Amazon-Richards
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I don't think we'd have got Beattie though, so who was going to bang the goals in?
 
I remember being visibly down/worried before the match because if we lost Brown etc would leave.

I was more upset after the match mind you.
 
Jimmy23 said:
Good question. I’d be more inclined to say we’d stay up. Reason why is because yes we had an aging squad of professionals, but that team Warnock inherited a side like I’ve not seen ever again since then sadly. What was the key ingredient you ask? FIGHT. Full stop. Along with passion. Every one of those players from that 02/03 era would go through blood, sweat and tears for this club at the time. We were never beaten and we never gave up. Plus it would have been more of a level playing field back then with no oil investors buying the Premiership(as it was). So in answer to your question, we’d have stayed up with a few games to spare with Brownie being top scorer for us once again
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There were some really good skilful players in that team but they all had backbone and were great characters. They were super fit too - all of those last minute goals were no accident. They kept on going until the very end. If the current team only had only a quarter of the heart, desire and character of that 2002-03!
 
We had alot of momentum in that 02-03 squad and a ridiculous ability of comebacks.

I reckon there's every chance that side of 02-03 with some additions would have stayed up actually. Brown would have probably stuck around too.
There would have needed to have been some decent spending that season, Koumas might have actually signed haha!

But to start with the as a core/base Kenny, Jags, Brown, Tonge, Page (At the time), Nuddy, Windass (Although he would have probably left still with the fallout), Kabba (When did he get his bad injury?).

I've no doubt in my mind had Warnock been kept on following our relegation in 06/07 and been given only half of what Robson had to spend, or possibly nothing at all we would have bounced straight back up. McCabe and Robinson tried to move us "foward" in both playing and commercial stance by hiring a big name manager.
Sadly they picked one who was a bit of a drunk and clearly not brilliant at building a team together.
 

Inter_blade83 said:
I don't think we'd have got Beattie though, so who was going to bang the goals in?
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We'd bought Billy back from Scunthorpe before Robson became manager and he then was shunted going out wide to accommodate Beattie.
 
Silent Blade said:
Signed 6 weeks after Robson became our manager
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You reckon that was more Mccabe in his hear after supping the sportsman dry? Robson seemed to like the Premier league players, any he could get his hands on.
 
We'd have been just as skint then as we are now
We'd have wasted what money we did get on shit

And if we go up again in the year 2921 and get £999,999,999,999,999.999.999,9999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.00 for going up we'll waste that on shit as well.
 
JJBlade said:
And if we go up again in the year 2921 and get £999,999,999,999,999.999.999,9999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.00 for going up we'll waste that on shit as well.
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Of course, who else is going to renew Fleck's contract..?
 
Maybe we would have actually signed Jason Koumas.
 
What gets me is everytime the blades go up and look like becoming an established side the board mess it up by lack of investment. There cannot be a club in the UK that's gone 100 years without a major trophy that can attract over 30k a week with little or no away support to boost numbers.
Wednesday are giving 6k to away support . We are giving around 2,800.
Brentford, Bournemouth, Burnley, and Fulham who give tickets away and numerous others cannot match our support same Brighton who are in Europe.
Add to that we sell every decent asset we produce .
Our club if ever successful could easily achieve over 40k .
Really grates me how nobody can see the potential in sheffutd to be able to invest in what really could be a huge club in a huge catchment area.
 
derbysufc said:
What gets me is everytime the blades go up and look like becoming an established side the board mess it up by lack of investment. There cannot be a club in the UK that's gone 100 years without a major trophy that can attract over 30k a week with little or no away support to boost numbers.
Wednesday are giving 6k to away support . We are giving around 2,800.
Brentford, Bournemouth, Burnley, and Fulham who give tickets away and numerous others cannot match our support same Brighton who are in Europe.
Add to that we sell every decent asset we produce .
Our club if ever successful could easily achieve over 40k .
Really grates me how nobody can see the potential in sheffutd to be able to invest in what really could be a huge club in a huge catchment area.
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You'd think so but villa/Birmingham would be a little higher up the list above us, maybe Cardiff?
 
Warnock had Jon Harley lined up for 1.5 and wanted a couple of Forest players. Gareth Williams, Harewood and Ricardo Scimmica or however you spell.
 
Gin&Juice said:
Warnock had Jon Harley lined up for 1.5 and wanted a couple of Forest players. Gareth Williams, Harewood and Ricardo Scimmica or however you spell.
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Harewood was a player I always wanted to see in a United shirt. Man was a monster of a centre forward and always seemed to bully us whenever he played against us. I seem to remember him scoring an absolute worldie at the lane when he was at Forest too.
 

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