I know very little about Jimmy hagan but...

[FTPE]

So in 1951 we accepted a bid for our best player and captain, sounds about right.
Although it would have been a British record fee at the time, it was "them bast***ds" that put it in!!
Luckily, sir jimmy turned them down and they got relegated the following season?
That all right?
If so, the club have always been the same, but it at least rockets Hagan even higher as a lane legend in my eyes

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

So in 1951 we accepted a bid for our best player and captain, sounds about right.
Although it would have been a British record fee at the time, it was "them bast***ds" that put it in!!
Luckily, sir jimmy turned them down and they got relegated the following season?
That all right?
If so, the club have always been the same, but it at least rockets Hagan even higher as a lane legend in my eyes

I never had the privilege to see Jimmy Hagan play , but the people i know who saw him at the lane , all say he was the best inside forward in Britain and way before his time . Last game i think in 1958.

Also he was the first true european manger winning 3no league titles in the 70s with Benfica.

Yes a true legend and a guy with his stature , makes you proud to be brought up as a blade supporter.

We await our next legend , and not someone on loan.

UTB

 

[Woodwardfan]

I remember the shock when he was sent off at Bramall Lane, other than that I can remember him in possession of the ball and the way he dribbled and held possession. Actually didn't look an athlete but with his skills he didn't need to huff and puff. Can't remember any other specific incidents, more's the pity.

In our house he seemed to be Prime Minister, Archbishop and King all rolled into one, the world seemed to revolve around him.

I remember Alf Ringstead playing more than Jimmy Hagan, and he was another very good player.

 

[Silent Blade]

So in 1951 we accepted a bid for our best player and captain, sounds about right.
Although it would have been a British record fee at the time, it was "them bast***ds" that put it in!!
Luckily, sir jimmy turned them down and they got relegated the following season?
That all right?
If so, the club have always been the same, but it at least rockets Hagan even higher as a lane legend in my eyes

In February 1951 Wendy tried to sign him for £32,500 which would have broken the British transfer fee even though Hagan was 33 at the time. Hagan rejected the move and Wendy got relegation a few months later. They were a yo yo club in the 1950s. In 1950 they pipped the Blades by 0.08 goal average to get promoted, relegated in 1951, champions in 1952, relegated in 1955, Champions in 1956, relegated in 1958 and champions in 1959

 

[Silent Blade]

I remember the shock when he was sent off at Bramall Lane,

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a friend of mine (a Wendy fan who plays in the same chess team as me) went to that match (my dad remembered it when I asked him about it). We beat Swansea 7-1 in December 1952. Hagan had been arguing with the ref and the ref sent him off, the crowd went berserk and threw leftovers of the fruits (they had taken to the match) at the ref!

 

[Woodwardfan]

a friend of mine (a Wendy fan who plays in the same chess team as me) went to that match (my dad remembered it when I asked him about it). We beat Swansea 7-1 in December 1952. Hagan had been arguing with the ref and the ref sent him off, the crowd went berserk and threw leftovers of the fruits (they had taken to the match) at the ref!

If that was the date then it is my earliest ever memory I reckon, I was 4years 7 months old. I can still see him trudging off and recall the outrage and sense of shock and hurt.

Chess team Silent - fantastic!!

 

[FTPE]

That's some memories chaps, my first memory of a footballer was Paul beesley.... Not quite hagan I know

 

[blade.i.am]

And the difference between chess and the Blades? Only some of the chess pieces can move sideways and backwards.

 

[Woodwardfan]

And the difference between chess and the Blades? Only some of the chess pieces can move sideways and backwards.

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[Sirius]

a friend of mine (a Wendy fan who plays in the same chess team as me) went to that match (my dad remembered it when I asked him about it). We beat Swansea 7-1 in December 1952. Hagan had been arguing with the ref and the ref sent him off, the crowd went berserk and threw leftovers of the fruits (they had taken to the match) at the ref!

I was there too and could'nt believe Hagan had been sent off. IMO he was the best player I have seen in a Blade's shirt. Regarding the Wendy offer, I am told that Hagan, who was a strong minded man told the Board to do one, adding that he wouldn't dare walk down the Moor had the transfer gone through.
Broomhill Blade's book the Jimmy Hagan story is a great read.
Hagan took free kicks that were very accurate. He knew how far ten yards was and was quick to point out to the ref when an opponent encroached.
On one occasion he pointed out that a player was much closer to the ball than ten yards. The ref took no notice and told Jimmy to get on with it, whereupon the Master blasted the ball very accurately at the transgressor hitting him in the nuts.

 

[Nick Jansky]

A bit after my time, my first game was in Jan 70 v Everton in the FA Cup.

But one of my older brothers was named Jimmy in his honour, and became a pig :-(((

 

[Silent Blade]

I was there too and could'nt believe Hagan had been sent off. IMO he was the best player I have seen in a Blade's shirt. Regarding the Wendy offer, I am told that Hagan, who was a strong minded man told the Board to do one, adding that he wouldn't dare walk down the Moor had the transfer gone through.
Broomhill Blade's book the Jimmy Hagan story is a great read.
Hagan took free kicks that were very accurate. He knew how far ten yards was and was quick to point out to the ref when an opponent encroached.
On one occasion he pointed out that a player was much closer to the ball than ten yards. The ref took no notice and told Jimmy to get on with it, whereupon the Master blasted the ball very accurately at the transgressor hitting him in the nuts.

The same Wendy fan from my team also recalled (my dad remembered this too) that when Man City came to the Lane and at one point during the game Jimmy was lying on the pitch badly hurt so big Man City's keeper Frank Swift came over to him and carried him off the pitch as if he was cradling a baby. My mate stopped going to the Lane when Jimmy Hagan retired from playing (and so did other Wendy fans who used to watch Wendy one week and the Blades in the next week)

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

That's some memories chaps, my first memory of a footballer was Paul beesley.... Not quite hagan I know

FTPE, I posted a bit back on another thread to try and illustrate the regard in which Hagan was held.You might have seen it already but I'll reproduce it here just in case:

"I only ever saw Hagan play once and that was at Joe Shaw's testimonial on March 29, 1965. It was the night before my seventh birthday so I think I can be forgiven for having only the haziest memory of his performance although I do remember him scoring direct from a free kick at the Kop end to general delight. Even at that age I had my suspicions that Ron Springett in the All-Stars XI goal hadn't done his absolute best to keep it out - he was grinning after it went in - but, to be fair, Hagan was 47 by then.

What does stay in my memory is something my dad said to me and my year older brother on the night. Dad was born in 1921 and was a Unitedite through and through although like many others in the thirties, forties and fifties he used to go one week to Bramall Lane and the next to Owlerton (as he called it). By 1965, he was no longer a regular at matches but Hagan coming out of retirement to play in Joe Shaw's game was always going to guarantee his attendance and he took us both and we stood near the front on the John Street terrace. After the teams came out but before the game started, he called the two of us over to him from the railings on which we were standing and he proceeded very seriously to make a little speech to us both, looking us in the eye and wagging his finger at us to make his point. It went something very like this: " now listen, you two, I want you to remember this night. I want you to remember that you saw Jimmy Hagan play. I want you, when the time comes, to tell your children and your grandchildren that you saw Jimmy Hagan, the great Jimmy Hagan, play. Never forget this night. Never forget that you saw Jimmy Hagan play."

It made such an impression on me. I had never seen him as serious about anything before and I don't think I ever saw him as serious about anything again (and he lived until he was 84). He revered Hagan and he clearly wanted his sons to try and understand just how good Hagan was."

 

[Bayingblade]

I am also too young to remember Hagan but was fortunate to be a young lad when Currie and Woodward ruled. Currie was my hero and could indeed "do magic" but to my Dad, he was never as good as Hagan. I don't know anyone of my fathers generation that saw both play who doesn't say that Hagan was the best. My Dad still goes dewy eyed at the memory of "wonderful, wonderful Jimmy Hagan". My Grandfather, who saw Gillespie, Dodds, Dunne et al, all the way through to Currie also said that Hagan was the best. He must have been some player and clearly a principled man to boot. So far removed from today's bunch!

 

[Flakey]

Its a shame that we as a club have these knee jerk reactions and go out annoucing that we have the "Jessica Ennis Stand", who will probably be forgotten in 20 years time, when we could and should have called it the "Jimmy Hagan Stand".

Not too late to change Mr Mc, afterall the B***h doesn't want to be associated with us anymore.

 

[FTPE]

FTPE, I posted a bit back on another thread to try and illustrate the regard in which Hagan was held.You might have seen it already but I'll reproduce it here just in case:

"I only ever saw Hagan play once and that was at Joe Shaw's testimonial on March 29, 1965. It was the night before my seventh birthday so I think I can be forgiven for having only the haziest memory of his performance although I do remember him scoring direct from a free kick at the Kop end to general delight. Even at that age I had my suspicions that Ron Springett in the All-Stars XI goal hadn't done his absolute best to keep it out - he was grinning after it went in - but, to be fair, Hagan was 47 by then.

What does stay in my memory is something my dad said to me and my year older brother on the night. Dad was born in 1921 and was a Unitedite through and through although like many others in the thirties, forties and fifties he used to go one week to Bramall Lane and the next to Owlerton (as he called it). By 1965, he was no longer a regular at matches but Hagan coming out of retirement to play in Joe Shaw's game was always going to guarantee his attendance and he took us both and we stood near the front on the John Street terrace. After the teams came out but before the game started, he called the two of us over to him from the railings on which we were standing and he proceeded very seriously to make a little speech to us both, looking us in the eye and wagging his finger at us to make his point. It went something very like this: " now listen, you two, I want you to remember this night. I want you to remember that you saw Jimmy Hagan play. I want you, when the time comes, to tell your children and your grandchildren that you saw Jimmy Hagan, the great Jimmy Hagan, play. Never forget this night. Never forget that you saw Jimmy Hagan play."

It made such an impression on me. I had never seen him as serious about anything before and I don't think I ever saw him as serious about anything again (and he lived until he was 84). He revered Hagan and he clearly wanted his sons to try and understand just how good Hagan was."

Brilliant pal, great read!

 

[Darren]

So in 1951 we accepted a bid for our best player and captain, sounds about right.
Although it would have been a British record fee at the time, it was "them bast***ds" that put it in!!
Luckily, sir jimmy turned them down and they got relegated the following season?
That all right?
If so, the club have always been the same, but it at least rockets Hagan even higher as a lane legend in my eyes

Bear in mind that those were the days of the maximum wage, so there was no incentive for Hagan himself to move as he could not increase his pay.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Bear in mind that those were the days of the maximum wage, so there was no incentive for Hagan himself to move as he could not increase his pay.

What were the relative league standings of the clubs at the time?

 

[Darren]

What were the relative league standings of the clubs at the time?

In 50-51 Wednesday were relegated from D1 and United finished 7th in D2.

 

[Karaoke Blade]

Excuse my ignorance, but is there anything of significance named after Sir Jimmy at Bramall Lane? It seems odd that the two statues outside the ground are of Joe Shaw (another great servant to the club) and Derek Dooley.

 

[Revolution]

Bear in mind that those were the days of the maximum wage, so there was no incentive for Hagan himself to move as he could not increase his pay.

Not legally. Under the counter payments were rife, and many people moved for that reason. A player was also eligible for a signing on fee (though it wasn't much).

Hagan was earning more money via a legitimate route. He trained as a chartered surveyor and was effectively part time at the Lane.

 

[SK10Blade]

My 78 year old Mum's cat is called Hagan...Once a Blade...

 

[FleaPitBlade]

There's a large bust of Jimmy Hagan in the museum.

 

[Darren]

Not legally. Under the counter payments were rife, and many people moved for that reason. A player was also eligible for a signing on fee (though it wasn't much).

Hagan was earning more money via a legitimate route. He trained as a chartered surveyor and was effectively part time at the Lane.

Indeed. It was also less of a money grabbing culture in those days. People didn't so much judge their personal worth on how much their earned.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Tony, Tony Currie, we sang. And the old boys replied;

"Aye, good player but not as good as Jimmy Hagan...and he needs a haircut!"

 

[Darren]

Tony, Tony Currie, we sang. And the old boys replied;

"Aye, good player but not as good as Jimmy Hagan...and he needs a haircut!"

Think is, there are now grown men to whom the Deane and Agana partrnership is ancient history :-(

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Think is, there are now grown men to whom the Deane and Agana partrnership is ancient history :-(

Thankyou for cheering me up on this cold Wednesday morning, Dazzler. Nowt better to jolly someone along than to remind them that they're now an old git.

 

[Darren]

Thankyou for cheering me up on this cold Wednesday morning, Dazzler. Nowt better to jolly someone along than to remind them that they're now an old git.

Even worse, we have teenage fans who have no memory of the Triple Assault season.....

 

[Lane Ender]

Thankyou for cheering me up on this cold Wednesday morning, Dazzler. Nowt better to jolly someone along than to remind them that they're now an old git.

Just as i was feeling young with them Hagan posts

 

[grafikhaus]

a friend of mine (a Wendy fan who plays in the same chess team as me) went to that match (my dad remembered it when I asked him about it). We beat Swansea 7-1 in December 1952. Hagan had been arguing with the ref and the ref sent him off, the crowd went berserk and threw leftovers of the fruits (they had taken to the match) at the ref!

Ah, I think your mind is playing tricks, Silent. The old 'rose-tinted glasses'.

Fruit? Fruit? You were lucky!