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Maurice Maurice said:
Ask him. All I remember is him gloating about how he happily crossed the picket line, took advantage of the benefits that his striking colleagues fought for and felt no remorse, which let's be honest, if you're a scab you have no scruples, do you?
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Well fair enough, you know more about this than I do so I can't really argue.
 

Maurice Maurice said:
Ask him. All I remember is him gloating about how he happily crossed the picket line, took advantage of the benefits that his striking colleagues fought for and felt no remorse, which let's be honest, if you're a scab you have no scruples, do you?
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No way the Commies could beat Maggie the mines was losing money as with the steelworks they had to be addressed
 
It's multifaceted. The scab thing is like the blood on Lady Macbeth's hands: "all the perfumes of Arabia" can't rid them of it. "What's done cannot be undone". It's associated with the pit closures; the deindustrialisation of Britain and the state of the country now. Class betrayal - selling out their own. Brian Clough thought the same, which must sting some. When they sing "sign on" it betrays everything a club like them should stand for, and many generations of none Scab Notts miners. It's the equivalent of Liverpool's Munich chants and Man Utd's Hillsborough chants in my mind. Irredeemable. The claim that it was years ago is totally irrelevant: if you grew up in a mining community the scars are very much still there (ironically most of them do). If you are working class it's still there. If you're from a mining family it has been infecting the generations of that family and their life chances. I'm all of that, so in my mind the "scab" chant is the least they deserve. My grandfather was involved in WW2 and was seriously injured in a mining accident at Brookhouse colliery; he wanted Thatcher and the scabs to burn in hell.

They were always arrogant bastards. Every time they've lost to us they've cried like babies. Anyone remember "2-0 to the famous team" when they lost in the play offs? Or their attitude when we beat them in the cup when we were on our uppers? Totally nauseating. They're a club followed largely by atavistic simpletons with no understanding of the past or the present. They now have a seriously dodgy owner who they worship. "Owt for a pound note" as they say.

The carry on after the play off game was a total joke. Not only was it a pitch invasion - the vast MAJORITY of the pitch invaders charged the away end. Coins, smoke bombs etc. It wasn't a celebration, it was an attempt at a mass violent altercation. I had kids with me and they were genuinely scared. If it wasn't for the restraint of Blades supporters and a close run intervention from the coppers, you'd have been looking at one of the worst clashes in a ground I can ever remember. It was totally classless. Conversely, Sharp was all class after the coward attacked him from behind. Rather than total condemnation and credit for our restraint, the fucking morons tried to pin a violent attack on a kid in a moon boot and another with a serious hamstring injury, -players who were more than justified in being on the pitch to clap off their fans after the last game of our season (as tradition dictates). Again, what did Cloughie do to their morons on the pitch back in the day? They were a fucking disgrace and didn't hold their hands up. They deflected and did everything to pass the book. Even the club employees were a disgrace.
 
Ball_Sup (Phil) said:
No. Never forget. But never hate.

It would seem ridiculous to bump into a 24 year old German guy and call him a Nazi.

It would seem ridiculous to bump into a 24 year old Nottingham guy and call him a Scab.
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That would depend entirely on whether they embody those beliefs/ideologies.
 
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nopigfansintown said:
It's multifaceted. The scab thing is like the blood on Lady Macbeth's hands: "all the perfumes of Arabia" can't rid them of it. "What's done cannot be undone". It's associated with the pit closures; the deindustrialisation of Britain and the state of the country now. Class betrayal - selling out their own. Brian Clough thought the same, which must sting some. When they sing "sign on" it betrays everything a club like them should stand for, and many generations of none Scab Notts miners. It's the equivalent of Liverpool's Munich chants and Man Utd's Hillsborough chants in my mind. Irredeemable. The claim that it was years ago is totally irrelevant: if you grew up in a mining community the scars are very much still there (ironically most of them do). If you are working class it's still there. If you're from a mining family it has been infecting the generations of that family and their life chances. I'm all of that, so in my mind the "scab" chant is the least they deserve. My grandfather was involved in WW2 and was seriously injured in a mining accident at Brookhouse colliery; he wanted Thatcher and the scabs to burn in hell.

They were always arrogant bastards. Every time they've lost to us they've cried like babies. Anyone remember "2-0 to the famous team" when they lost in the play offs? Or their attitude when we beat them in the cup when we were on our uppers? Totally nauseating. They're a club followed largely by atavistic simpletons with no understanding of the past or the present. They now have a seriously dodgy owner who they worship. "Owt for a pound note" as they say.

The carry on after the play off game was a total joke. Not only was it a pitch invasion - the vast MAJORITY of the pitch invaders charged the away end. Coins, smoke bombs etc. It wasn't a celebration, it was an attempt at a mass violent altercation. I had kids with me and they were genuinely scared. If it wasn't for the restraint of Blades supporters and a close run intervention from the coppers, you'd have been looking at one of the worst clashes in a ground I can ever remember. It was totally classless. Conversely, Sharp was all class after the coward attacked him from behind. Rather than total condemnation and credit for our restraint, the fucking morons tried to pin a viiolent attack on a kid in a moon boot and another with a serious hamstring injury, -players who were more than justified in being on the pitch to clap off their fans after the last game of our season (as tradition dictates). Again, what did Cloughie do to their morons on the pitch back in the day? They were a fucking disgrace and didn't hold their hands up. They deflected and did everything to pass the book. Even the club employees were a disgrace.
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Absolutely spot on, 100%.

You could remove the Scab element entirely and they are still nothing less than pure vermin.

I actually hope that some of the sob stories they tell about Blades fans being big meanies towards them actually ARE true, because I've never come across a Forest fan who didn't deserve a fucking shoeing quite frankly.
 
38 years ago
Let's say anyone under the age of 55 couldn't have been involved in the strikes

Obviously the closure of the mines had a lot of impact on families but the issue wasn't closing the pits it was not providing alternative jobs.
 
Grandmanasty said:
You have no clue what you’re talking about. I say this as a steelworker not a miner.
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When you ask for a 20% rise in an ailing industry there’s only one way it was going to go
By the way I am a bricklayer and around the same time firms cut our prices hard times.
 
Forest fans have had times we can only dream of, I remember as a kid watching them on TV lifting their first European Cup. That was after getting promoted (I was at both our games with them that season 6:1 & 2:0) and winning the old first division at the first attempt.
Then they retained the European Cup the following season, amazing from Clough and Forest.
For the youngsters on here, the European Cup is today's Champions League, but back then only the title winners of each nation could enter, no second placed teams, no second chances in the knock out system.
What they achieved under the leadership of Brian Clough would was remarkable, if that had been us, I would never let those moments go.
Forgetting the politics of the time, Forest breaking Liverpool's domestic dominance was quite an achievement.
 
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Lane Ender said:
When you ask for a 20% rise in an ailing industry there’s only one way it was going to go
By the way I am a bricklayer and around the same time firms cut our prices hard times.
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That makes your opinion even worse. For a working class man to side with Thatcher and actually want other workers to suffer redundancies and pay cuts is shameful. Stinks of jealousy to be fair.
 
Poster 1
I support the right to strike, I supported the miners at the time, I understand solidarity, it was wrong that some miners did not show that solidarity, and they should rightly be condemned for that. However, I do not think all Forest fans are/were scabs. And, I know not all scabs were Forest fans. And, scab, Forest fan, whomsoever I do not

"wish each and every one of them personal tragedy on an individual level"

Poster 2
You jealous Thatcherite traitorous scum
 

Grandmanasty said:
That makes your opinion even worse. For a working class man to side with Thatcher and actually want other workers to suffer redundancies and pay cuts is shameful. Stinks of jealousy to be fair.
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Side with Thatcher you having laugh had 30 years solid on the tools and earned every penny on price work then run my own business for 22 years then I learned a hell of a lot about my own kind and loyalties
 
WF10BLADE said:
Do County get the scab treatment or is it just Forest?
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It's just a blason populaire, innit.

Notts County get called scabs, and I think Mansfield do also, depending on which teams they play.

IIRC County are/were seen as the Labour leaning team in Nottingham and Forest conservative, with a historic bigger mining fanbase. Notts miners were always perceived to be conservative/right leaning, whilst South Yorks, South Wales & Durham were left leaning. Nottinghamshire has always returned more conservative MP's than South Yorkshire & North East Derbyshire.

The Notts miners scabbed & split the Union twice, once in 1926 and 1984/85.
 
Lane Ender said:
You don’t know me wouldn’t do anything like that but to justify hatred towards Nottingham people is wankism
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Hey up Keith. Still doing the fire safety?
 
Bladesman said:
It's commonplace these days and I blame the internet for that. Someone does something wrong but they manage to spin it to make themselves look like the victim.

Forest are essentially blaming us for their fans being weapons grade bellend's. The punishment they got for it all was pathetic.
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Victim blaming is all the rage these days
 
Fuck the Scab cunts.

In fairness I liked Forest as a kid from 1980 onwards and loved Cloughie. I was there singing his name in the away end that day.

However, as I've got older I've grown to have much less time for their piglike fans.

The way the club and many of their fans behaved after the play off game last season was odious. Yeah I know if the boot had been on the other foot we'd have had plenty of fans being the same but I'd hope our club and plod would have acted differently.

Oh and I grew up in a mining village in NE Derbyshire so fuck 'em.
 
Grandmanasty said:
You have no clue what you’re talking about. I say this as a steelworker not a miner.
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I seem to remember it quoted that if coal had received the same subsidies as Germany then for every bag of coal, they could give it way along with 5 quid!

So I'm not sure that the mines losing money hand over fist is all that accurate. Plus you have considerations of impact to the local community which isn't black and white.
 
robbiez666 said:
38 years ago
Let's say anyone under the age of 55 couldn't have been involved in the strikes

Obviously the closure of the mines had a lot of impact on families but the issue wasn't closing the pits it was not providing alternative jobs.
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Exactly right, I was a steelworker and the same basically applies,,
 
VLYDONIMIR said:
Martin O'Neill and John Robertson are great men.
Neither from Nottingham but have represented
NFFC.

By the way, does Nigel Clough fall into the 'Scab' pond?
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No, because he was born in Sunderland, has lived most of his life in Duffield, had a unionist/socialist for a father and wasn't a strike breaking miner.
 
Maurice Maurice said:
The Conservative government ably assisted by a bunch of fucking scabs closed the pits down. They played a fucking huge part in helping the cunts in power at the time claim a victory. Even worse is the fact that the scabbing bastards sold their fellow workers down the river knowing the same fate was round the corner for themselves.

We all know the depths that bastard Thatcher plumbed to rape the working classes, for a fucking miner and a union member to side with the shitbag is unforgivable. No, they are the right people to blame, they were working class turning against their fellow working class brothers. Lowest fucking life form, fuck the lot of 'em.
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Lane Ender said:
When you ask for a 20% rise in an ailing industry there’s only one way it was going to go
By the way I am a bricklayer and around the same time firms cut our prices hard times.
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We got a 28% pay rise us Miners then the next year Scargill demanded another 35%, it was always going to end with conflict. I hate Scargill with a pasion! He was everything the Tories wanted and needed to distroy..............................a commie! End of!!!!
 

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