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I noticed yesterday that Clayton Donaldson was in an offside position a few times when Moore was taking goal kicks and was surprised that the linesman didnt flag when Clayton challenged for a header. Googled the rules this morning and it states that you cannot be offside from a goal kick. I wasnt aware! Is this a new ruling? A good tactic for us to use.

Am sure the throw in leading up to Villa's penalty was illegal
 



I noticed yesterday that Clayton Donaldson was in an offside position a few times when Moore was taking goal kicks and was surprised that the linesman didnt flag when Clayton challenged for a header. Googled the rules this morning and it states that you cannot be offside from a goal kick. I wasnt aware! Is this a new ruling? A good tactic for us to use.

Am sure the throw in leading up to Villa's penalty was illegal

Yes I think without Coutts we may have to resort to an element of long ball - maybe we could use Hanson over the busy period
 
No mate been the rules for a long time.

Suspect that was s foul throw mind but ten there’s about a dozen every game. Feet off ground, not taken from right place etc etc
 
I found that rule out against Reading in the premier league. Their tactic was for their attackers to stand offside and run from behind to win the headers. It was after shouting at the ref for about 60mins that the bloke in front turned around and said "you do know you can't be offside from a goal kick?"

Also, that throw in yeah - he was stood behind the byline
 
I noticed yesterday that Clayton Donaldson was in an offside position a few times when Moore was taking goal kicks and was surprised that the linesman didnt flag when Clayton challenged for a header. Googled the rules this morning and it states that you cannot be offside from a goal kick. I wasnt aware! Is this a new ruling? A good tactic for us to use.

Am sure the throw in leading up to Villa's penalty was illegal
At the time we all looked at each other and said that you can’t be offside from a goal kick. Not sure why the Lino flagged for it as he didn’t flag for the next one
 
I remember Kevin Doyle doing this repeatedly against us for Reading the year we both went up - starting in an offside position for goal kicks then running in front of our defenders to challenge for headers. Crowd were going nuts at the linesman to give offside! The more you know...

Edit - mattbianco1 beat me to it :)
 
I noticed yesterday that Clayton Donaldson was in an offside position a few times when Moore was taking goal kicks and was surprised that the linesman didnt flag when Clayton challenged for a header. Googled the rules this morning and it states that you cannot be offside from a goal kick. I wasnt aware! Is this a new ruling? A good tactic for us to use.

Am sure the throw in leading up to Villa's penalty was illegal
Tut, tut. 1866 apparently, keep up Silent!
 

The occasion when Donaldson was given offside was from a free kick not a goal kick. You can be offside from a free kick of course.
There are several instances when you cannot be given offside:-
1 From a throw in
2 From a goal kick
3 ??????
4 ??????

What always amazes me is when even the players or managers don't know the rules e.g. the last man being sent off rule was changed recently.
 
The occasion when Donaldson was given offside was from a free kick not a goal kick. You can be offside from a free kick of course.
There are several instances when you cannot be given offside:-
1 From a throw in
2 From a goal kick
3 ??????
4 ??????

What always amazes me is when even the players or managers don't know the rules e.g. the last man being sent off rule was changed recently.
Ah thought it was a goal kick. That’s cleared it up then
 
The occasion when Donaldson was given offside was from a free kick not a goal kick. You can be offside from a free kick of course.
There are several instances when you cannot be given offside:-
1 From a throw in
2 From a goal kick
3 ??????
4 ??????
When the ball is played backwards so that would include corners.
 



The occasion when Donaldson was given offside was from a free kick not a goal kick. You can be offside from a free kick of course.
There are several instances when you cannot be given offside:-
1 From a throw in
2 From a goal kick
3 ??????
4 ??????

What always amazes me is when even the players or managers don't know the rules e.g. the last man being sent off rule was changed recently.

Corner, although it's very difficult to be stood offside at a corner anyway.
 
Thought it was only morons that shouted for offside from a goal kick :eek::D In surprised Silent Blade. You also can’t score from a goal kick either...

Been the rule ever since I grew up so at least 30 odd years!
 
I found that rule out against Reading in the premier league. Their tactic was for their attackers to stand offside and run from behind to win the headers. It was after shouting at the ref for about 60mins that the bloke in front turned around and said "you do know you can't be offside from a goal kick?"

Also, that throw in yeah - he was stood behind the byline


Once had the same happen to me although in my defence I thought the game had started from a free kick for off side.
 
I find the new rule of 'every time an Aston Villa player falls down, a free kick must be awarded' quite interesting.
Is that the entire rule, or is it ‘every time an Aston Villa or Norwich player falls down...’?

As for lack of offside, I thought it was goal kicks, throw-ins and corners. I guess that means technically if an attacker is in an offside position on the goal line and a corner is taken from the point on the arc furthest up the touchline and the ball is played forwards = not offside.

My favourite rule is if a goalkeeper takes a corner and is then the next player to touch the ball, with his hands in his own penalty area = indirect free kick. Proof that all eventualities are covered in the laws of the game.

Has anybody looked up whether that throw was legal? It didn’t quite sit right at the time but I couldn’t put my finger on why.
 
The occasion when Donaldson was given offside was from a free kick not a goal kick. You can be offside from a free kick of course.
There are several instances when you cannot be given offside:-
1 From a throw in
2 From a goal kick
3 ??????
4 ??????

What always amazes me is when even the players or managers don't know the rules e.g. the last man being sent off rule was changed recently.

I know answering your own messages is poor form but the 4 I was thinking about were
1 From a throw in
2 From a goal kick
3 From a corner
4 When standing in your own half when the ball was played

However 'not interfering with play' opens up a huge can of worms.
 
Yesterday will be remembered as the day Simon Hooper and Aston Villa invented the 'throw corner' ripping up the football rule book. Only allowed for the 'big football clubs' who can get away with doing what they want.
 
Has anybody looked up whether that throw was legal? It didn’t quite sit right at the time but I couldn’t put my finger on why.

This is what the rules say:-

At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower must:
  • face the field of play
  • have part of each foot on the touchline or on the ground outside the touchline
  • throw the ball with both hands from behind and over the head from the point where it left the field of play
All opponents must stand at least 2 m (2 yds) from the point at which the throw-in is taken.

It must by definition have been illegal
 
I think I’m also learning something new from the highlights this morning. It seems that a perfectly timed challenge in the box can be given as a penalty, which comes as a huge surprise to me.
Thought it was only morons that shouted for offside from a goal kick :eek::D In surprised Silent Blade. You also can’t score from a goal kick either...

Been the rule ever since I grew up so at least 30 odd years!
I'm with Silent Blade 0n this one.

was a great surprise to me too when I found out that you can't be offside from a goal kick.

You definitely could be when I was playing.
 



Yesterday's ref didn't seem to have much of a clue about the rules

As do many, but why spoil a game with too much accuracy.

Though from the other side of the fence I can see that it is a very difficult job to do, when half the crowd may have a better view, certainly a better opinion. :)
 

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