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I am not doing a full report from tonight….for one of the few times under Wilder I simply cannot be bothered. I watched on Sky but I am still in shock at what I saw.

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They deservedly won. I thought they were crap but won more loose balls, had 3 or 4 decent efforts and goal and scored a decent goal (abysmal defending). If they had won 2 o3 3-0 it would have been fair. We never looked like scoring save one chance for Sharp and created nothing all night. We hardly had any decent possession and tossed the ball away constantly. It was almost like we could not do thing as bad if we tried. Bad touches, passes straight to them, set plays straight to the first man, mis control, daft flicks. It was so bad it was untrue. They looked like they had been on the piss to be honest or all had flu. It was bizarre. We had no intensity whatsoever and looked like they were going through the motions. I have no idea what happened to the team I have seen most of this season; but that was an imposter of an SUFC side


To be frank, that was the worst performance of the season by a mile and might even be the worst ever under Wilder (yes, we lost to Southend 3-0 but that was a freak 10-15-minute start to the game). Tonight, from start to finish other than maybe a 5-minute spell in the second half to start; we were absolutely appalling. Passing, skill, touch, control, effort, tackling, shooting, defending. Everything. We were hopeless. It looked like we had never played the game before! Outfield I am not sure any player can say they played anything like. Baldock maybe in spells, ditto for O’Connell and maybe Fleck but the rest of them. Pathetic throughout.


The thing that galled me most was not the poor touch (every one was a tackle) but the half hearted and half arsed effort and intensity. We jogged around and looked disinterested. A playoff place up for grabs and we play like it is a pre-season game. It was embarrassing. We did not lay a glove on them all game and lost every single 50-50. It started in midfield where Evans and Leonard looked really poor and looked lower league. Never kept the ball and lost any physical battles. The full backs did not get forward save from a few runs from Baldock. Up front Sharp and Clarke never won a ball all game. The changes did not work. We never looked like breaking Hull down and lacked belief completely.


Wilder’s interview at the end was really interesting and damning. He basically has said the players are not good enough to get in the top 6 and that they just are going to see things out now and that any of the other top teams would go there and win tonight. I am certain he has done that to get a reaction and there was some sarcasm in the ‘season is pretty much going to fade away’ type answer. Not sure he believes the top 6 have gone and we are going to just try and nick a few results but he was not happy and clearly told the players that. He looked and sounded absolutely furious and has kind of laid down the gauntlet to the players. It was really damning and it seemed like he was in the dressing room for over half an hour with them. They clearly had been given a right going off. I think he and us fans could cope with misplaced passes or mistakes but we got completely outworked and did not seem bothered. When we had a chance to get back up there against a poor side we served up absolute shambles.


We now have a make or break week. We need 4-6 points from Reading and Burton. Anything less and we will probably be 6 or 7 points off the playoffs and the season will probably peter out. Tonight was a golden chance. Adkins raved about Hull but they were not that good. We were just awful. We now have a tougher away game in my opinion next Tuesday and then a tricky game against another former Blades manager who will want to put one over us. The players have to prove to Wilder they are good enough. Over the season we have proven to be the 7th (might be down to 8th-10th tomorrow) best team and that is about where we are at the moment. I am not sure we are good enough to challenge the top 6 at the moment as we have too many up and down performances. Since Xmas, Bolton, Wednesday and tonight have been 3 games we have looked really poor and we seem incapable of going on a run of say 4 or 5 wins anymore. With the top 5 seeming quite well set; you figure there is only one place and with Brentford and Middlesbrough on decent form; you figure they have a better chance than us of catching Bristol City. Hope they prove me wrong but tonight showed maybe even the players do not quite believe.



Hull- Thought they were poor and not much better than at the Lane but we did not turn up. They had a few neat moves but were not tearing us apart. They just worked hard and won the loose balls. They played it over the top and got the quick lad running in behind. At the back Clarke and Sharp gave the two centre backs a torrid time at the Lane; tonight, they could have played in deckchairs. Hull still have enough quality to not go down but god help them with that idiot in charge. His interview post game was full of the usual ‘Intensity, shape about us, put it in one end, keep it out the other, Saturday—Tuesday-Saturday-Tuesday.’ It was like he was doing it on purpose – almost like he was doing an impression of himself. They will go nowhere fast with that phony in charge but he had the last laugh tonight. Thank god he is not our manager regardless of what happened on the pitch. Wilder is ten times the manager he is.


Opposition Man of the Match: Dicko – scored and looked lively. Also thought that the midfield won everything and that Dawson did not give Clarke a kick.


Opposition Weak link: None that bad really. The lad Irvine set up the goal but could have got sent off for a series of fouls.


Blackman 7.5/10 – Made two decent saves; took the crosses when he could and commanded. No chance on the goal. No protection at all.


Baldock 6/10 – Started well and got down the flank a few times but got caught our defensively a bit too. Second half had one good run but then faded away. At least tried too attack and carry the ball forward but no end product at all.


Stevens 4/10 – Thought he was really poor. Summed up second half when he overran a ball, then lost it and then failed to track back. His touch was poor, he was miles off his man and never uses his right foot, preferring to spin round 360 degrees sometimes just to kick it with his left. Been better last few but not very good at all tonight.


Basham 5.5/10 – Steady-ish and unlucky to come off. He too had a few misplaced passes but thought he put effort in and one of few to win some challenges.


O’Connell 6/10 – As above. He at least tried but he too was slow to react a few times and passing mixed. He is often having to carry it forward as the midfielders in front always play it backwards and sideways.


Stearman 5/10 – He has been good recently but he made quite a few mistakes tonight and was sluggish. Ball kept shooting off him and he struggled to keep Dicko quiet. Took too many touches and tried to be too clever.


Fleck 5.5/10 – Did a few decent things but also gave it away a lot too. Felt he was one of few who might make something happen and at least was involved in some of our better attacks but we completely lost the midfield battle.


Evans 3/10 – Awful. Gave it away, his first touch poor, second as bad and cannot recall him finding a white shirt all night. He looked slow, sluggish and completely overran by Hull players. He has done ok so far but looked way off the standard required tonight.


Leonard 2/10 – As above but even worse. Slow, languid and looked clumsy. Technically he looks woeful in games I have seen and looks a player that just looks like he is struggling with step up in skill and intensity. He did ok in a cameo on Tuesday but today he was dire. Behind the ball and always at full stretch. Very pedestrian. He makes Lundstram seem dynamic! Have to say not been impressed with him at all. He needs to step it up if he is to be anywhere near a 1st team regular at this level.


Sharp 3/10 – Poor. He was back to the Sharp of previous games; looking for fouls and trying to con the ref. He had effort and maybe should have squared it but then he was though and is a striker. He never linked with Clarke, did not hold it up and we had nothing up front. No service though at all.


Clarke 3/10 – Sure some will criticise this low mark and say he had no service and he did not but his sheer lack of effort was disgusting tonight. He simply did not look arsed at all. He did not even challenge half the time and Dawson outplayed him. He did not win one header all night, did not hold it up, did not chase and looked totally disinterested. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond me. Played well v QPR but overall since his new contract his form has been really poor. I think if we had better options he would come out of the team but Donaldson, Evans, Wilson sadly are not screaming out to be picked.


Subs:


Lundstram – Came on and gave it away 4 times in about 10 minutes. He then passed it backward. Maybe a bit unlucky not to start as he was maybe better than Evans and Duffy on Tuesday but when he did come on he was no better than those he came on for.


Duffy – Came on but he too looked out of sorts. Why he did not start is beyond me? He was poor Tuesday but was superb v Hull at the Lane and we needed to win tonight. We had no creative spark at all. Wasted a few passes and handballed it when he did come on.


Donaldson – Did nothing. Misplaced two passed and like the other strikers failed to win or hold a ball up.


Manager: Wilder 3/10 – Poor team selection, team looked disinterested, no energy and lack of creativity or football all night. The midfield three did not work at all and his new January signings all looked poor. His subs did not improve things at all. Hull had measure of us, won midfield and stopped wing backs/centre backs attacking. They compressed the play and won easily. It was an awful performance. Of course, he cannot go out and play for them but for us to be so bad 1-11 individually and collectively he will have to question why – what happened to the side we have seen most of the season? Interesting he said we have got the maximum out of these players. Was that to try and get a reaction or a dig at the board. It was an odd thing to say. If I was a player I would be determined to prove him wrong but then also I would be angry as I have helped them get to 7th in the league. Could be quite a telling moment in not only the season but Wilder’s tenure. If we do fade away and/or struggle next season; it will be referred back to a lot.


Officials – Ref was fine. We had a half-hearted penalty appeal and of course not helped by the whistles but cannot take any blame for the loss. Irvine committed one bad foul and then did another after but not sure it was enough for a red. The game barely had any bad tackles outside of his. Was like a practice game.


Crowd – The whistles and tennis balls were annoying and yes, they were more when we had it but we barely kept the ball so not sure we can use that as an excuse! Why Clarke stopped when no one else had all game I am not sure? It was irritating but it did not affect the result at all for me. Hull deserved the win.
 



Your view from the sofa means jack pal unless you went to the game, ask Thornton.
 
Your view from the sofa means jack pal unless you went to the game, ask Thornton.

Thank god I did not go! To think a few people I know (4 of them paid £120) for 2 adults and 2 kids! £120 for that shambles.
 
I am not doing a full report from tonight….for one of the few times under Wilder I simply cannot be bothered. I watched on Sky but I am still in shock at what I saw.

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They deservedly won. I thought they were crap but won more loose balls, had 3 or 4 decent efforts and goal and scored a decent goal (abysmal defending). If they had won 2 o3 3-0 it would have been fair. We never looked like scoring save one chance for Sharp and created nothing all night. We hardly had any decent possession and tossed the ball away constantly. It was almost like we could not do thing as bad if we tried. Bad touches, passes straight to them, set plays straight to the first man, mis control, daft flicks. It was so bad it was untrue. They looked like they had been on the piss to be honest or all had flu. It was bizarre. We had no intensity whatsoever and looked like they were going through the motions. I have no idea what happened to the team I have seen most of this season; but that was an imposter of an SUFC side


To be frank, that was the worst performance of the season by a mile and might even be the worst ever under Wilder (yes, we lost to Southend 3-0 but that was a freak 10-15-minute start to the game). Tonight, from start to finish other than maybe a 5-minute spell in the second half to start; we were absolutely appalling. Passing, skill, touch, control, effort, tackling, shooting, defending. Everything. We were hopeless. It looked like we had never played the game before! Outfield I am not sure any player can say they played anything like. Baldock maybe in spells, ditto for O’Connell and maybe Fleck but the rest of them. Pathetic throughout.


The thing that galled me most was not the poor touch (every one was a tackle) but the half hearted and half arsed effort and intensity. We jogged around and looked disinterested. A playoff place up for grabs and we play like it is a pre-season game. It was embarrassing. We did not lay a glove on them all game and lost every single 50-50. It started in midfield where Evans and Leonard looked really poor and looked lower league. Never kept the ball and lost any physical battles. The full backs did not get forward save from a few runs from Baldock. Up front Sharp and Clarke never won a ball all game. The changes did not work. We never looked like breaking Hull down and lacked belief completely.


Wilder’s interview at the end was really interesting and damning. He basically has said the players are not good enough to get in the top 6 and that they just are going to see things out now and that any of the other top teams would go there and win tonight. I am certain he has done that to get a reaction and there was some sarcasm in the ‘season is pretty much going to fade away’ type answer. Not sure he believes the top 6 have gone and we are going to just try and nick a few results but he was not happy and clearly told the players that. He looked and sounded absolutely furious and has kind of laid down the gauntlet to the players. It was really damning and it seemed like he was in the dressing room for over half an hour with them. They clearly had been given a right going off. I think he and us fans could cope with misplaced passes or mistakes but we got completely outworked and did not seem bothered. When we had a chance to get back up there against a poor side we served up absolute shambles.


We now have a make or break week. We need 4-6 points from Reading and Burton. Anything less and we will probably be 6 or 7 points off the playoffs and the season will probably peter out. Tonight was a golden chance. Adkins raved about Hull but they were not that good. We were just awful. We now have a tougher away game in my opinion next Tuesday and then a tricky game against another former Blades manager who will want to put one over us. The players have to prove to Wilder they are good enough. Over the season we have proven to be the 7th (might be down to 8th-10th tomorrow) best team and that is about where we are at the moment. I am not sure we are good enough to challenge the top 6 at the moment as we have too many up and down performances. Since Xmas, Bolton, Wednesday and tonight have been 3 games we have looked really poor and we seem incapable of going on a run of say 4 or 5 wins anymore. With the top 5 seeming quite well set; you figure there is only one place and with Brentford and Middlesbrough on decent form; you figure they have a better chance than us of catching Bristol City. Hope they prove me wrong but tonight showed maybe even the players do not quite believe.



Hull- Thought they were poor and not much better than at the Lane but we did not turn up. They had a few neat moves but were not tearing us apart. They just worked hard and won the loose balls. They played it over the top and got the quick lad running in behind. At the back Clarke and Sharp gave the two centre backs a torrid time at the Lane; tonight, they could have played in deckchairs. Hull still have enough quality to not go down but god help them with that idiot in charge. His interview post game was full of the usual ‘Intensity, shape about us, put it in one end, keep it out the other, Saturday—Tuesday-Saturday-Tuesday.’ It was like he was doing it on purpose – almost like he was doing an impression of himself. They will go nowhere fast with that phony in charge but he had the last laugh tonight. Thank god he is not our manager regardless of what happened on the pitch. Wilder is ten times the manager he is.


Opposition Man of the Match: Dicko – scored and looked lively. Also thought that the midfield won everything and that Dawson did not give Clarke a kick.


Opposition Weak link: None that bad really. The lad Irvine set up the goal but could have got sent off for a series of fouls.


Blackman 7.5/10 – Made two decent saves; took the crosses when he could and commanded. No chance on the goal. No protection at all.


Baldock 6/10 – Started well and got down the flank a few times but got caught our defensively a bit too. Second half had one good run but then faded away. At least tried too attack and carry the ball forward but no end product at all.


Stevens 4/10 – Thought he was really poor. Summed up second half when he overran a ball, then lost it and then failed to track back. His touch was poor, he was miles off his man and never uses his right foot, preferring to spin round 360 degrees sometimes just to kick it with his left. Been better last few but not very good at all tonight.


Basham 5.5/10 – Steady-ish and unlucky to come off. He too had a few misplaced passes but thought he put effort in and one of few to win some challenges.


O’Connell 6/10 – As above. He at least tried but he too was slow to react a few times and passing mixed. He is often having to carry it forward as the midfielders in front always play it backwards and sideways.


Stearman 5/10 – He has been good recently but he made quite a few mistakes tonight and was sluggish. Ball kept shooting off him and he struggled to keep Dicko quiet. Took too many touches and tried to be too clever.


Fleck 5.5/10 – Did a few decent things but also gave it away a lot too. Felt he was one of few who might make something happen and at least was involved in some of our better attacks but we completely lost the midfield battle.


Evans 3/10 – Awful. Gave it away, his first touch poor, second as bad and cannot recall him finding a white shirt all night. He looked slow, sluggish and completely overran by Hull players. He has done ok so far but looked way off the standard required tonight.


Leonard 2/10 – As above but even worse. Slow, languid and looked clumsy. Technically he looks woeful in games I have seen and looks a player that just looks like he is struggling with step up in skill and intensity. He did ok in a cameo on Tuesday but today he was dire. Behind the ball and always at full stretch. Very pedestrian. He makes Lundstram seem dynamic! Have to say not been impressed with him at all. He needs to step it up if he is to be anywhere near a 1st team regular at this level.


Sharp 3/10 – Poor. He was back to the Sharp of previous games; looking for fouls and trying to con the ref. He had effort and maybe should have squared it but then he was though and is a striker. He never linked with Clarke, did not hold it up and we had nothing up front. No service though at all.


Clarke 3/10 – Sure some will criticise this low mark and say he had no service and he did not but his sheer lack of effort was disgusting tonight. He simply did not look arsed at all. He did not even challenge half the time and Dawson outplayed him. He did not win one header all night, did not hold it up, did not chase and looked totally disinterested. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond me. Played well v QPR but overall since his new contract his form has been really poor. I think if we had better options he would come out of the team but Donaldson, Evans, Wilson sadly are not screaming out to be picked.


Subs:


Lundstram – Came on and gave it away 4 times in about 10 minutes. He then passed it backward. Maybe a bit unlucky not to start as he was maybe better than Evans and Duffy on Tuesday but when he did come on he was no better than those he came on for.


Duffy – Came on but he too looked out of sorts. Why he did not start is beyond me? He was poor Tuesday but was superb v Hull at the Lane and we needed to win tonight. We had no creative spark at all. Wasted a few passes and handballed it when he did come on.


Donaldson – Did nothing. Misplaced two passed and like the other strikers failed to win or hold a ball up.


Manager: Wilder 3/10 – Poor team selection, team looked disinterested, no energy and lack of creativity or football all night. The midfield three did not work at all and his new January signings all looked poor. His subs did not improve things at all. Hull had measure of us, won midfield and stopped wing backs/centre backs attacking. They compressed the play and won easily. It was an awful performance. Of course, he cannot go out and play for them but for us to be so bad 1-11 individually and collectively he will have to question why – what happened to the side we have seen most of the season? Interesting he said we have got the maximum out of these players. Was that to try and get a reaction or a dig at the board. It was an odd thing to say. If I was a player I would be determined to prove him wrong but then also I would be angry as I have helped them get to 7th in the league. Could be quite a telling moment in not only the season but Wilder’s tenure. If we do fade away and/or struggle next season; it will be referred back to a lot.


Officials – Ref was fine. We had a half-hearted penalty appeal and of course not helped by the whistles but cannot take any blame for the loss. Irvine committed one bad foul and then did another after but not sure it was enough for a red. The game barely had any bad tackles outside of his. Was like a practice game.


Crowd – The whistles and tennis balls were annoying and yes, they were more when we had it but we barely kept the ball so not sure we can use that as an excuse! Why Clarke stopped when no one else had all game I am not sure? It was irritating but it did not affect the result at all for me. Hull deserved the win.



Totally bang on
 
Wilder said Clarke and Sharp did not deserve any blame. Yes every area of the field is important but I always believe you defend from the front. The ball came back every time. They did not win a ball or hold it up all night. Clarke was lazy tonight. An utterly cowardly performance. He did not even want to challenge for many. Billy at least tried to win a few but just diid his fall on his arse and look for a foul. I actually would have put Evans on tonight. At least he might have run around.
 
I am not doing a full report from tonight….for one of the few times under Wilder I simply cannot be bothered. I watched on Sky but I am still in shock at what I saw.

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They deservedly won. I thought they were crap but won more loose balls, had 3 or 4 decent efforts and goal and scored a decent goal (abysmal defending). If they had won 2 o3 3-0 it would have been fair. We never looked like scoring save one chance for Sharp and created nothing all night. We hardly had any decent possession and tossed the ball away constantly. It was almost like we could not do thing as bad if we tried. Bad touches, passes straight to them, set plays straight to the first man, mis control, daft flicks. It was so bad it was untrue. They looked like they had been on the piss to be honest or all had flu. It was bizarre. We had no intensity whatsoever and looked like they were going through the motions. I have no idea what happened to the team I have seen most of this season; but that was an imposter of an SUFC side


To be frank, that was the worst performance of the season by a mile and might even be the worst ever under Wilder (yes, we lost to Southend 3-0 but that was a freak 10-15-minute start to the game). Tonight, from start to finish other than maybe a 5-minute spell in the second half to start; we were absolutely appalling. Passing, skill, touch, control, effort, tackling, shooting, defending. Everything. We were hopeless. It looked like we had never played the game before! Outfield I am not sure any player can say they played anything like. Baldock maybe in spells, ditto for O’Connell and maybe Fleck but the rest of them. Pathetic throughout.


The thing that galled me most was not the poor touch (every one was a tackle) but the half hearted and half arsed effort and intensity. We jogged around and looked disinterested. A playoff place up for grabs and we play like it is a pre-season game. It was embarrassing. We did not lay a glove on them all game and lost every single 50-50. It started in midfield where Evans and Leonard looked really poor and looked lower league. Never kept the ball and lost any physical battles. The full backs did not get forward save from a few runs from Baldock. Up front Sharp and Clarke never won a ball all game. The changes did not work. We never looked like breaking Hull down and lacked belief completely.


Wilder’s interview at the end was really interesting and damning. He basically has said the players are not good enough to get in the top 6 and that they just are going to see things out now and that any of the other top teams would go there and win tonight. I am certain he has done that to get a reaction and there was some sarcasm in the ‘season is pretty much going to fade away’ type answer. Not sure he believes the top 6 have gone and we are going to just try and nick a few results but he was not happy and clearly told the players that. He looked and sounded absolutely furious and has kind of laid down the gauntlet to the players. It was really damning and it seemed like he was in the dressing room for over half an hour with them. They clearly had been given a right going off. I think he and us fans could cope with misplaced passes or mistakes but we got completely outworked and did not seem bothered. When we had a chance to get back up there against a poor side we served up absolute shambles.


We now have a make or break week. We need 4-6 points from Reading and Burton. Anything less and we will probably be 6 or 7 points off the playoffs and the season will probably peter out. Tonight was a golden chance. Adkins raved about Hull but they were not that good. We were just awful. We now have a tougher away game in my opinion next Tuesday and then a tricky game against another former Blades manager who will want to put one over us. The players have to prove to Wilder they are good enough. Over the season we have proven to be the 7th (might be down to 8th-10th tomorrow) best team and that is about where we are at the moment. I am not sure we are good enough to challenge the top 6 at the moment as we have too many up and down performances. Since Xmas, Bolton, Wednesday and tonight have been 3 games we have looked really poor and we seem incapable of going on a run of say 4 or 5 wins anymore. With the top 5 seeming quite well set; you figure there is only one place and with Brentford and Middlesbrough on decent form; you figure they have a better chance than us of catching Bristol City. Hope they prove me wrong but tonight showed maybe even the players do not quite believe.



Hull- Thought they were poor and not much better than at the Lane but we did not turn up. They had a few neat moves but were not tearing us apart. They just worked hard and won the loose balls. They played it over the top and got the quick lad running in behind. At the back Clarke and Sharp gave the two centre backs a torrid time at the Lane; tonight, they could have played in deckchairs. Hull still have enough quality to not go down but god help them with that idiot in charge. His interview post game was full of the usual ‘Intensity, shape about us, put it in one end, keep it out the other, Saturday—Tuesday-Saturday-Tuesday.’ It was like he was doing it on purpose – almost like he was doing an impression of himself. They will go nowhere fast with that phony in charge but he had the last laugh tonight. Thank god he is not our manager regardless of what happened on the pitch. Wilder is ten times the manager he is.


Opposition Man of the Match: Dicko – scored and looked lively. Also thought that the midfield won everything and that Dawson did not give Clarke a kick.


Opposition Weak link: None that bad really. The lad Irvine set up the goal but could have got sent off for a series of fouls.


Blackman 7.5/10 – Made two decent saves; took the crosses when he could and commanded. No chance on the goal. No protection at all.


Baldock 6/10 – Started well and got down the flank a few times but got caught our defensively a bit too. Second half had one good run but then faded away. At least tried too attack and carry the ball forward but no end product at all.


Stevens 4/10 – Thought he was really poor. Summed up second half when he overran a ball, then lost it and then failed to track back. His touch was poor, he was miles off his man and never uses his right foot, preferring to spin round 360 degrees sometimes just to kick it with his left. Been better last few but not very good at all tonight.


Basham 5.5/10 – Steady-ish and unlucky to come off. He too had a few misplaced passes but thought he put effort in and one of few to win some challenges.


O’Connell 6/10 – As above. He at least tried but he too was slow to react a few times and passing mixed. He is often having to carry it forward as the midfielders in front always play it backwards and sideways.


Stearman 5/10 – He has been good recently but he made quite a few mistakes tonight and was sluggish. Ball kept shooting off him and he struggled to keep Dicko quiet. Took too many touches and tried to be too clever.


Fleck 5.5/10 – Did a few decent things but also gave it away a lot too. Felt he was one of few who might make something happen and at least was involved in some of our better attacks but we completely lost the midfield battle.


Evans 3/10 – Awful. Gave it away, his first touch poor, second as bad and cannot recall him finding a white shirt all night. He looked slow, sluggish and completely overran by Hull players. He has done ok so far but looked way off the standard required tonight.


Leonard 2/10 – As above but even worse. Slow, languid and looked clumsy. Technically he looks woeful in games I have seen and looks a player that just looks like he is struggling with step up in skill and intensity. He did ok in a cameo on Tuesday but today he was dire. Behind the ball and always at full stretch. Very pedestrian. He makes Lundstram seem dynamic! Have to say not been impressed with him at all. He needs to step it up if he is to be anywhere near a 1st team regular at this level.


Sharp 3/10 – Poor. He was back to the Sharp of previous games; looking for fouls and trying to con the ref. He had effort and maybe should have squared it but then he was though and is a striker. He never linked with Clarke, did not hold it up and we had nothing up front. No service though at all.


Clarke 3/10 – Sure some will criticise this low mark and say he had no service and he did not but his sheer lack of effort was disgusting tonight. He simply did not look arsed at all. He did not even challenge half the time and Dawson outplayed him. He did not win one header all night, did not hold it up, did not chase and looked totally disinterested. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond me. Played well v QPR but overall since his new contract his form has been really poor. I think if we had better options he would come out of the team but Donaldson, Evans, Wilson sadly are not screaming out to be picked.


Subs:


Lundstram – Came on and gave it away 4 times in about 10 minutes. He then passed it backward. Maybe a bit unlucky not to start as he was maybe better than Evans and Duffy on Tuesday but when he did come on he was no better than those he came on for.


Duffy – Came on but he too looked out of sorts. Why he did not start is beyond me? He was poor Tuesday but was superb v Hull at the Lane and we needed to win tonight. We had no creative spark at all. Wasted a few passes and handballed it when he did come on.


Donaldson – Did nothing. Misplaced two passed and like the other strikers failed to win or hold a ball up.


Manager: Wilder 3/10 – Poor team selection, team looked disinterested, no energy and lack of creativity or football all night. The midfield three did not work at all and his new January signings all looked poor. His subs did not improve things at all. Hull had measure of us, won midfield and stopped wing backs/centre backs attacking. They compressed the play and won easily. It was an awful performance. Of course, he cannot go out and play for them but for us to be so bad 1-11 individually and collectively he will have to question why – what happened to the side we have seen most of the season? Interesting he said we have got the maximum out of these players. Was that to try and get a reaction or a dig at the board. It was an odd thing to say. If I was a player I would be determined to prove him wrong but then also I would be angry as I have helped them get to 7th in the league. Could be quite a telling moment in not only the season but Wilder’s tenure. If we do fade away and/or struggle next season; it will be referred back to a lot.


Officials – Ref was fine. We had a half-hearted penalty appeal and of course not helped by the whistles but cannot take any blame for the loss. Irvine committed one bad foul and then did another after but not sure it was enough for a red. The game barely had any bad tackles outside of his. Was like a practice game.


Crowd – The whistles and tennis balls were annoying and yes, they were more when we had it but we barely kept the ball so not sure we can use that as an excuse! Why Clarke stopped when no one else had all game I am not sure? It was irritating but it did not affect the result at all for me. Hull deserved the win.
Wilder needs to be careful. Only so many 30 minute lectures after games before players start tuning you out.
 
I am not doing a full report from tonight….for one of the few times under Wilder I simply cannot be bothered. I watched on Sky but I am still in shock at what I saw.

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They deservedly won. I thought they were crap but won more loose balls, had 3 or 4 decent efforts and goal and scored a decent goal (abysmal defending). If they had won 2 o3 3-0 it would have been fair. We never looked like scoring save one chance for Sharp and created nothing all night. We hardly had any decent possession and tossed the ball away constantly. It was almost like we could not do thing as bad if we tried. Bad touches, passes straight to them, set plays straight to the first man, mis control, daft flicks. It was so bad it was untrue. They looked like they had been on the piss to be honest or all had flu. It was bizarre. We had no intensity whatsoever and looked like they were going through the motions. I have no idea what happened to the team I have seen most of this season; but that was an imposter of an SUFC side


To be frank, that was the worst performance of the season by a mile and might even be the worst ever under Wilder (yes, we lost to Southend 3-0 but that was a freak 10-15-minute start to the game). Tonight, from start to finish other than maybe a 5-minute spell in the second half to start; we were absolutely appalling. Passing, skill, touch, control, effort, tackling, shooting, defending. Everything. We were hopeless. It looked like we had never played the game before! Outfield I am not sure any player can say they played anything like. Baldock maybe in spells, ditto for O’Connell and maybe Fleck but the rest of them. Pathetic throughout.


The thing that galled me most was not the poor touch (every one was a tackle) but the half hearted and half arsed effort and intensity. We jogged around and looked disinterested. A playoff place up for grabs and we play like it is a pre-season game. It was embarrassing. We did not lay a glove on them all game and lost every single 50-50. It started in midfield where Evans and Leonard looked really poor and looked lower league. Never kept the ball and lost any physical battles. The full backs did not get forward save from a few runs from Baldock. Up front Sharp and Clarke never won a ball all game. The changes did not work. We never looked like breaking Hull down and lacked belief completely.


Wilder’s interview at the end was really interesting and damning. He basically has said the players are not good enough to get in the top 6 and that they just are going to see things out now and that any of the other top teams would go there and win tonight. I am certain he has done that to get a reaction and there was some sarcasm in the ‘season is pretty much going to fade away’ type answer. Not sure he believes the top 6 have gone and we are going to just try and nick a few results but he was not happy and clearly told the players that. He looked and sounded absolutely furious and has kind of laid down the gauntlet to the players. It was really damning and it seemed like he was in the dressing room for over half an hour with them. They clearly had been given a right going off. I think he and us fans could cope with misplaced passes or mistakes but we got completely outworked and did not seem bothered. When we had a chance to get back up there against a poor side we served up absolute shambles.


We now have a make or break week. We need 4-6 points from Reading and Burton. Anything less and we will probably be 6 or 7 points off the playoffs and the season will probably peter out. Tonight was a golden chance. Adkins raved about Hull but they were not that good. We were just awful. We now have a tougher away game in my opinion next Tuesday and then a tricky game against another former Blades manager who will want to put one over us. The players have to prove to Wilder they are good enough. Over the season we have proven to be the 7th (might be down to 8th-10th tomorrow) best team and that is about where we are at the moment. I am not sure we are good enough to challenge the top 6 at the moment as we have too many up and down performances. Since Xmas, Bolton, Wednesday and tonight have been 3 games we have looked really poor and we seem incapable of going on a run of say 4 or 5 wins anymore. With the top 5 seeming quite well set; you figure there is only one place and with Brentford and Middlesbrough on decent form; you figure they have a better chance than us of catching Bristol City. Hope they prove me wrong but tonight showed maybe even the players do not quite believe.



Hull- Thought they were poor and not much better than at the Lane but we did not turn up. They had a few neat moves but were not tearing us apart. They just worked hard and won the loose balls. They played it over the top and got the quick lad running in behind. At the back Clarke and Sharp gave the two centre backs a torrid time at the Lane; tonight, they could have played in deckchairs. Hull still have enough quality to not go down but god help them with that idiot in charge. His interview post game was full of the usual ‘Intensity, shape about us, put it in one end, keep it out the other, Saturday—Tuesday-Saturday-Tuesday.’ It was like he was doing it on purpose – almost like he was doing an impression of himself. They will go nowhere fast with that phony in charge but he had the last laugh tonight. Thank god he is not our manager regardless of what happened on the pitch. Wilder is ten times the manager he is.


Opposition Man of the Match: Dicko – scored and looked lively. Also thought that the midfield won everything and that Dawson did not give Clarke a kick.


Opposition Weak link: None that bad really. The lad Irvine set up the goal but could have got sent off for a series of fouls.


Blackman 7.5/10 – Made two decent saves; took the crosses when he could and commanded. No chance on the goal. No protection at all.


Baldock 6/10 – Started well and got down the flank a few times but got caught our defensively a bit too. Second half had one good run but then faded away. At least tried too attack and carry the ball forward but no end product at all.


Stevens 4/10 – Thought he was really poor. Summed up second half when he overran a ball, then lost it and then failed to track back. His touch was poor, he was miles off his man and never uses his right foot, preferring to spin round 360 degrees sometimes just to kick it with his left. Been better last few but not very good at all tonight.


Basham 5.5/10 – Steady-ish and unlucky to come off. He too had a few misplaced passes but thought he put effort in and one of few to win some challenges.


O’Connell 6/10 – As above. He at least tried but he too was slow to react a few times and passing mixed. He is often having to carry it forward as the midfielders in front always play it backwards and sideways.


Stearman 5/10 – He has been good recently but he made quite a few mistakes tonight and was sluggish. Ball kept shooting off him and he struggled to keep Dicko quiet. Took too many touches and tried to be too clever.


Fleck 5.5/10 – Did a few decent things but also gave it away a lot too. Felt he was one of few who might make something happen and at least was involved in some of our better attacks but we completely lost the midfield battle.


Evans 3/10 – Awful. Gave it away, his first touch poor, second as bad and cannot recall him finding a white shirt all night. He looked slow, sluggish and completely overran by Hull players. He has done ok so far but looked way off the standard required tonight.


Leonard 2/10 – As above but even worse. Slow, languid and looked clumsy. Technically he looks woeful in games I have seen and looks a player that just looks like he is struggling with step up in skill and intensity. He did ok in a cameo on Tuesday but today he was dire. Behind the ball and always at full stretch. Very pedestrian. He makes Lundstram seem dynamic! Have to say not been impressed with him at all. He needs to step it up if he is to be anywhere near a 1st team regular at this level.


Sharp 3/10 – Poor. He was back to the Sharp of previous games; looking for fouls and trying to con the ref. He had effort and maybe should have squared it but then he was though and is a striker. He never linked with Clarke, did not hold it up and we had nothing up front. No service though at all.


Clarke 3/10 – Sure some will criticise this low mark and say he had no service and he did not but his sheer lack of effort was disgusting tonight. He simply did not look arsed at all. He did not even challenge half the time and Dawson outplayed him. He did not win one header all night, did not hold it up, did not chase and looked totally disinterested. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond me. Played well v QPR but overall since his new contract his form has been really poor. I think if we had better options he would come out of the team but Donaldson, Evans, Wilson sadly are not screaming out to be picked.


Subs:


Lundstram – Came on and gave it away 4 times in about 10 minutes. He then passed it backward. Maybe a bit unlucky not to start as he was maybe better than Evans and Duffy on Tuesday but when he did come on he was no better than those he came on for.


Duffy – Came on but he too looked out of sorts. Why he did not start is beyond me? He was poor Tuesday but was superb v Hull at the Lane and we needed to win tonight. We had no creative spark at all. Wasted a few passes and handballed it when he did come on.


Donaldson – Did nothing. Misplaced two passed and like the other strikers failed to win or hold a ball up.


Manager: Wilder 3/10 – Poor team selection, team looked disinterested, no energy and lack of creativity or football all night. The midfield three did not work at all and his new January signings all looked poor. His subs did not improve things at all. Hull had measure of us, won midfield and stopped wing backs/centre backs attacking. They compressed the play and won easily. It was an awful performance. Of course, he cannot go out and play for them but for us to be so bad 1-11 individually and collectively he will have to question why – what happened to the side we have seen most of the season? Interesting he said we have got the maximum out of these players. Was that to try and get a reaction or a dig at the board. It was an odd thing to say. If I was a player I would be determined to prove him wrong but then also I would be angry as I have helped them get to 7th in the league. Could be quite a telling moment in not only the season but Wilder’s tenure. If we do fade away and/or struggle next season; it will be referred back to a lot.


Officials – Ref was fine. We had a half-hearted penalty appeal and of course not helped by the whistles but cannot take any blame for the loss. Irvine committed one bad foul and then did another after but not sure it was enough for a red. The game barely had any bad tackles outside of his. Was like a practice game.


Crowd – The whistles and tennis balls were annoying and yes, they were more when we had it but we barely kept the ball so not sure we can use that as an excuse! Why Clarke stopped when no one else had all game I am not sure? It was irritating but it did not affect the result at all for me. Hull deserved the win.
I feel what galls Wilder and us fans is the lack of desire right through the team,we know having mainly players from lower leagues, we are not the most skillfull of teams at this level.Do some of our players not want to go up for fear of being replaced ? In your hands Chris to sort it !!
 
Wilder needs to be careful. Only so many 30 minute lectures after games before players start tuning you out.

But I think Wilder will just move them on if they dont respond. He did it with Brayford, Hussey last season. Even if likes of Evans and Leonard dont prove good enought Wilder will bin them.

Problem we have is he is beiing given peanutes to improve things? He may have said it tongue in cheek saying we have got the maximum out of this team but deep down he may be right. Wilder was right to be furious tonight. If they had run around and won tackles and tried; I could cope with poor balls, lack of chances etc but they did not look arsed. They will know they deserved the dressing down tonight. How can majority say they played welll or took their chance to go to 6th? They blew it. If they tune him out; then where do they go? Most are from League One - do they go back to Southend or Oxford or Bury on less wages in front of a few thousand? That is option. Wilder is saying seize it in a roundabout way but if they dont he will try something else.
 
I thought Billy was better than normal. He created a couple of things for himself through sheer tenacity. There was just zero support of creativity behind them. That said, they really aren't a great pairing. It works sometimes but doesn't feel natural.
 
But I think Wilder will just move them on if they dont respond. He did it with Brayford, Hussey last season. Even if likes of Evans and Leonard dont prove good enought Wilder will bin them.

Problem we have is he is beiing given peanutes to improve things? He may have said it tongue in cheek saying we have got the maximum out of this team but deep down he may be right. Wilder was right to be furious tonight. If they had run around and won tackles and tried; I could cope with poor balls, lack of chances etc but they did not look arsed. They will know they deserved the dressing down tonight. How can majority say they played welll or took their chance to go to 6th? They blew it. If they tune him out; then where do they go? Most are from League One - do they go back to Southend or Oxford or Bury on less wages in front of a few thousand? That is option. Wilder is saying seize it in a roundabout way but if they dont he will try something else.
Good points well put. I suppose it boils down to if Wilder thinks his tactics and motivation have maxed out with the available talent will he call it quits and move on? Nowhere near that yet (hopefully)
 



Agree with a lot of that,but harsh on Clarke and Sharp..don't think they weren't trying..and that whistle definately put Leon off...he should have carried on and buried that chance,but they were a bit lacking in service.
Definately agree on most of the rest though...Midfield way off,Fleck the best of the 3..Evans did complete some passes,but just passed it square and passed on responsibility..Leonard never drove forward,gave the ball away...it was woeful and pedestrian.. crying out for someone like Brooks to run past a couple of players and open things up..pity he was injured...Frustrating, because Hull were there for the taking..poor side,but we never turned up,just consistently gave the ball back to Hull..we've done this a lot of late..there was a spell against Leeds where we constantly gave it then back 2nd half.
 
Agree with a lot of that,but harsh on Clarke and Sharp..don't think they weren't trying..and that whistle definately put Leon off...he should have carried on and buried that chance,but they were a bit lacking in service.
Definately agree on most of the rest though...Midfield way off,Fleck the best of the 3..Evans did complete some passes,but just passed it square and passed on responsibility..Leonard never drove forward,gave the ball away...it was woeful and pedestrian.. crying out for someone like Brooks to run past a couple of players and open things up..pity he was injured...Frustrating, because Hull were there for the taking..poor side,but we never turned up,just consistently gave the ball back to Hull..we've done this a lot of late..there was a spell against Leeds where we constantly gave it then back 2nd half.

Clarke was barely even jumping for the ball second half. He got ccaught offside twice by idling back and did not want to know if ball was not near his feet; which admittedly it never was as passing was really bad! They needed to chase and harry and put defenders under pressure. They did not do that.
 
Good summary...
Very poor performance against a bang-average hull side...They wanted it more and that hurts.
Thought Baldock put in a decent shift, whilst the others have one eye on the beach already..
 
Leon Clarke finds himself inside the Hull City box but stops for the whistle... Only problem is the whistle came from the stand!
 
They were crap, but so were we. Second to the ball, too many headers straight back to them, out muscled.
 
Clarke was barely even jumping for the ball second half. He got ccaught offside twice by idling back and did not want to know if ball was not near his feet; which admittedly it never was as passing was really bad! They needed to chase and harry and put defenders under pressure. They did not do that.
I'll give it another look,i may be way off,but although they weren't great,i wouldn't say they weren't trying..there was a few occasions Leon dropped off and tried to link the play,but to often we gave the ball away and attacks broke down,but i did see them try and close down players...especially first half... don't think they linked up well with each other though...the lack of service didn't help.
 
I am not doing a full report from tonight….for one of the few times under Wilder I simply cannot be bothered. I watched on Sky but I am still in shock at what I saw.

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They deservedly won. I thought they were crap but won more loose balls, had 3 or 4 decent efforts and goal and scored a decent goal (abysmal defending). If they had won 2 o3 3-0 it would have been fair. We never looked like scoring save one chance for Sharp and created nothing all night. We hardly had any decent possession and tossed the ball away constantly. It was almost like we could not do thing as bad if we tried. Bad touches, passes straight to them, set plays straight to the first man, mis control, daft flicks. It was so bad it was untrue. They looked like they had been on the piss to be honest or all had flu. It was bizarre. We had no intensity whatsoever and looked like they were going through the motions. I have no idea what happened to the team I have seen most of this season; but that was an imposter of an SUFC side


To be frank, that was the worst performance of the season by a mile and might even be the worst ever under Wilder (yes, we lost to Southend 3-0 but that was a freak 10-15-minute start to the game). Tonight, from start to finish other than maybe a 5-minute spell in the second half to start; we were absolutely appalling. Passing, skill, touch, control, effort, tackling, shooting, defending. Everything. We were hopeless. It looked like we had never played the game before! Outfield I am not sure any player can say they played anything like. Baldock maybe in spells, ditto for O’Connell and maybe Fleck but the rest of them. Pathetic throughout.


The thing that galled me most was not the poor touch (every one was a tackle) but the half hearted and half arsed effort and intensity. We jogged around and looked disinterested. A playoff place up for grabs and we play like it is a pre-season game. It was embarrassing. We did not lay a glove on them all game and lost every single 50-50. It started in midfield where Evans and Leonard looked really poor and looked lower league. Never kept the ball and lost any physical battles. The full backs did not get forward save from a few runs from Baldock. Up front Sharp and Clarke never won a ball all game. The changes did not work. We never looked like breaking Hull down and lacked belief completely.


Wilder’s interview at the end was really interesting and damning. He basically has said the players are not good enough to get in the top 6 and that they just are going to see things out now and that any of the other top teams would go there and win tonight. I am certain he has done that to get a reaction and there was some sarcasm in the ‘season is pretty much going to fade away’ type answer. Not sure he believes the top 6 have gone and we are going to just try and nick a few results but he was not happy and clearly told the players that. He looked and sounded absolutely furious and has kind of laid down the gauntlet to the players. It was really damning and it seemed like he was in the dressing room for over half an hour with them. They clearly had been given a right going off. I think he and us fans could cope with misplaced passes or mistakes but we got completely outworked and did not seem bothered. When we had a chance to get back up there against a poor side we served up absolute shambles.


We now have a make or break week. We need 4-6 points from Reading and Burton. Anything less and we will probably be 6 or 7 points off the playoffs and the season will probably peter out. Tonight was a golden chance. Adkins raved about Hull but they were not that good. We were just awful. We now have a tougher away game in my opinion next Tuesday and then a tricky game against another former Blades manager who will want to put one over us. The players have to prove to Wilder they are good enough. Over the season we have proven to be the 7th (might be down to 8th-10th tomorrow) best team and that is about where we are at the moment. I am not sure we are good enough to challenge the top 6 at the moment as we have too many up and down performances. Since Xmas, Bolton, Wednesday and tonight have been 3 games we have looked really poor and we seem incapable of going on a run of say 4 or 5 wins anymore. With the top 5 seeming quite well set; you figure there is only one place and with Brentford and Middlesbrough on decent form; you figure they have a better chance than us of catching Bristol City. Hope they prove me wrong but tonight showed maybe even the players do not quite believe.



Hull- Thought they were poor and not much better than at the Lane but we did not turn up. They had a few neat moves but were not tearing us apart. They just worked hard and won the loose balls. They played it over the top and got the quick lad running in behind. At the back Clarke and Sharp gave the two centre backs a torrid time at the Lane; tonight, they could have played in deckchairs. Hull still have enough quality to not go down but god help them with that idiot in charge. His interview post game was full of the usual ‘Intensity, shape about us, put it in one end, keep it out the other, Saturday—Tuesday-Saturday-Tuesday.’ It was like he was doing it on purpose – almost like he was doing an impression of himself. They will go nowhere fast with that phony in charge but he had the last laugh tonight. Thank god he is not our manager regardless of what happened on the pitch. Wilder is ten times the manager he is.


Opposition Man of the Match: Dicko – scored and looked lively. Also thought that the midfield won everything and that Dawson did not give Clarke a kick.


Opposition Weak link: None that bad really. The lad Irvine set up the goal but could have got sent off for a series of fouls.


Blackman 7.5/10 – Made two decent saves; took the crosses when he could and commanded. No chance on the goal. No protection at all.


Baldock 6/10 – Started well and got down the flank a few times but got caught our defensively a bit too. Second half had one good run but then faded away. At least tried too attack and carry the ball forward but no end product at all.


Stevens 4/10 – Thought he was really poor. Summed up second half when he overran a ball, then lost it and then failed to track back. His touch was poor, he was miles off his man and never uses his right foot, preferring to spin round 360 degrees sometimes just to kick it with his left. Been better last few but not very good at all tonight.


Basham 5.5/10 – Steady-ish and unlucky to come off. He too had a few misplaced passes but thought he put effort in and one of few to win some challenges.


O’Connell 6/10 – As above. He at least tried but he too was slow to react a few times and passing mixed. He is often having to carry it forward as the midfielders in front always play it backwards and sideways.


Stearman 5/10 – He has been good recently but he made quite a few mistakes tonight and was sluggish. Ball kept shooting off him and he struggled to keep Dicko quiet. Took too many touches and tried to be too clever.


Fleck 5.5/10 – Did a few decent things but also gave it away a lot too. Felt he was one of few who might make something happen and at least was involved in some of our better attacks but we completely lost the midfield battle.


Evans 3/10 – Awful. Gave it away, his first touch poor, second as bad and cannot recall him finding a white shirt all night. He looked slow, sluggish and completely overran by Hull players. He has done ok so far but looked way off the standard required tonight.


Leonard 2/10 – As above but even worse. Slow, languid and looked clumsy. Technically he looks woeful in games I have seen and looks a player that just looks like he is struggling with step up in skill and intensity. He did ok in a cameo on Tuesday but today he was dire. Behind the ball and always at full stretch. Very pedestrian. He makes Lundstram seem dynamic! Have to say not been impressed with him at all. He needs to step it up if he is to be anywhere near a 1st team regular at this level.


Sharp 3/10 – Poor. He was back to the Sharp of previous games; looking for fouls and trying to con the ref. He had effort and maybe should have squared it but then he was though and is a striker. He never linked with Clarke, did not hold it up and we had nothing up front. No service though at all.


Clarke 3/10 – Sure some will criticise this low mark and say he had no service and he did not but his sheer lack of effort was disgusting tonight. He simply did not look arsed at all. He did not even challenge half the time and Dawson outplayed him. He did not win one header all night, did not hold it up, did not chase and looked totally disinterested. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond me. Played well v QPR but overall since his new contract his form has been really poor. I think if we had better options he would come out of the team but Donaldson, Evans, Wilson sadly are not screaming out to be picked.


Subs:


Lundstram – Came on and gave it away 4 times in about 10 minutes. He then passed it backward. Maybe a bit unlucky not to start as he was maybe better than Evans and Duffy on Tuesday but when he did come on he was no better than those he came on for.


Duffy – Came on but he too looked out of sorts. Why he did not start is beyond me? He was poor Tuesday but was superb v Hull at the Lane and we needed to win tonight. We had no creative spark at all. Wasted a few passes and handballed it when he did come on.


Donaldson – Did nothing. Misplaced two passed and like the other strikers failed to win or hold a ball up.


Manager: Wilder 3/10 – Poor team selection, team looked disinterested, no energy and lack of creativity or football all night. The midfield three did not work at all and his new January signings all looked poor. His subs did not improve things at all. Hull had measure of us, won midfield and stopped wing backs/centre backs attacking. They compressed the play and won easily. It was an awful performance. Of course, he cannot go out and play for them but for us to be so bad 1-11 individually and collectively he will have to question why – what happened to the side we have seen most of the season? Interesting he said we have got the maximum out of these players. Was that to try and get a reaction or a dig at the board. It was an odd thing to say. If I was a player I would be determined to prove him wrong but then also I would be angry as I have helped them get to 7th in the league. Could be quite a telling moment in not only the season but Wilder’s tenure. If we do fade away and/or struggle next season; it will be referred back to a lot.


Officials – Ref was fine. We had a half-hearted penalty appeal and of course not helped by the whistles but cannot take any blame for the loss. Irvine committed one bad foul and then did another after but not sure it was enough for a red. The game barely had any bad tackles outside of his. Was like a practice game.


Crowd – The whistles and tennis balls were annoying and yes, they were more when we had it but we barely kept the ball so not sure we can use that as an excuse! Why Clarke stopped when no one else had all game I am not sure? It was irritating but it did not affect the result at all for me. Hull deserved the win.

Accurate summary, but for the full match affect, you should have stood in your fridge and thrown thirty quid in the fire :(
 
Been tonight and we were awful, but the whistling was a f***ing disgrace, every time we got anywhere near a dangerous area (admittedly not that often) the decibel level was upped to put us off. I reckon next time we cop for something similar the Blades fans that go take their own whistles and give some back when the opposition are attacking. Not a great solution but what do you do when the police/stewards/authorities are doing nothing to stop it.
 
Give some credit to a lowly placed team that knew our system, countered it and outfought us and also scored a very well worked goal and could have scored another. Their keeper was never called upon.

There must be reasons for Wilder not playing Duffy when we play three games in 8 days but when he is not there the other players do not seem able to step up to the challenge in the final third. Nobody takes the responsibility to open up the opposition defence. In this respect I suggest Stevens can do it but seems unable to maintain confidence levels and bottles out. Baldock tries but hasn't the vision or the required touch upfield. Leonard must be a very good player but he is struggling to settle in the club and has not played this level before. Fleck needs runners and they are not offering themselves as much these days. He is less industrious at the same time. Lundstram is a 6/10 player as yet, has a long ball but not the finesse in the final third, though he arrives late in the box well and is calm with his scoring opportunities. Holmes is an unknown quantity but must be an exciting player, though Charlton have done very well without him. Southend have done very well too lately but Brown left at the same time as Leonard. Evans looked superb in his first two games but strangely has not played as well against lesser opposition when his role changes slightly.

The strikers do try hard but the old familiar pattern is now blocked by the opposition who have sussed us and we are weak providing service if Duffy is absent or marked out of the game. Certainly for whatever reason the ball does not reach them in telling positions.

I've not heard Wilder's interview but he signed 4 players in January and applauded the Board for backing him. There were risks bedding in 4 players and that is where we are at right now. None of them have hit the ground running but more established players are on the bench more. New signings can boost the squad mood but not if they don't quickly show what they can add.
 
Good points well put. I suppose it boils down to if Wilder thinks his tactics and motivation have maxed out with the available talent will he call it quits and move on? Nowhere near that yet (hopefully)
He won't move on but some players may have bought a ticket ,he was angry !, rightly so.
 
Give some credit to a lowly placed team that knew our system, countered it and outfought us and also scored a very well worked goal and could have scored another. Their keeper was never called upon.

There must be reasons for Wilder not playing Duffy when we play three games in 8 days but when he is not there the other players do not seem able to step up to the challenge in the final third. Nobody takes the responsibility to open up the opposition defence. In this respect I suggest Stevens can do it but seems unable to maintain confidence levels and bottles out. Baldock tries but hasn't the vision or the required touch upfield. Leonard must be a very good player but he is struggling to settle in the club and has not played this level before. Fleck needs runners and they are not offering themselves as much these days. He is less industrious at the same time. Lundstram is a 6/10 player as yet, has a long ball but not the finesse in the final third, though he arrives late in the box well and is calm with his scoring opportunities. Holmes is an unknown quantity but must be an exciting player, though Charlton have done very well without him. Southend have done very well too lately but Brown left at the same time as Leonard. Evans looked superb in his first two games but strangely has not played as well against lesser opposition when his role changes slightly.

The strikers do try hard but the old familiar pattern is now blocked by the opposition who have sussed us and we are weak providing service if Duffy is absent or marked out of the game. Certainly for whatever reason the ball does not reach them in telling positions.

I've not heard Wilder's interview but he signed 4 players in January and applauded the Board for backing him. There were risks bedding in 4 players and that is where we are at right now. None of them have hit the ground running but more established players are on the bench more. New signings can boost the squad mood but not if they don't quickly show what they can add.
We can tolerate being beaten by a better tea Woody but that was totally shite and unacceptable
 
We can tolerate being beaten by a better tea Woody but that was totally shite and unacceptable


I agree with you Finlay but Hull weren't just there for the taking, they did turn up last night and we didn't. I was trying to point to reasons why the strikers got so little service recently, not just last night.

When we lost points a few weeks ago we usually felt we had deserved more because we had outplayed the opposition in most departments. It seemed an inability to turn domination into wins and not create enough clear cut chances, just half chances. Now we have a different problem; we are not dominating the opposition like we did, nor are we creating many goal scoring chance. We are just nicking results when we get them these days.


i'm sure Fleck, Leonard and Holmes can do better. Funnily enough I think Fleck is sensing the need to play telling balls and overdoes it without much success as yet I'm afraid. Freeman will add a lot but I'm afraid to say Stevens adds little more than Lafferty down the left. Now he misses the runs from O'Connell for some reason and these used to bail him out.
 
We had an off day, one of the worst performances of the season, quite possibly the worst, even poorer than Preston away. Embarrassing it was in front of the Sky cameras, but we can console ourselves that such performances are very rare. Hull have some very expensive, decent players who on their day can make it tough for anyone in this division

We also have more options in the games coming up - Wilson, Freeman, Brooks Ched - and knowing Wilder he'll make a few tweaks and have us up or the next game. Season isn't over, two crucial games coming up, 4 or 6 points needed to stay in contention.
 
Been tonight and we were awful, but the whistling was a f***ing disgrace, every time we got anywhere near a dangerous area (admittedly not that often) the decibel level was upped to put us off. I reckon next time we cop for something similar the Blades fans that go take their own whistles and give some back when the opposition are attacking. Not a great solution but what do you do when the police/stewards/authorities are doing nothing to stop it.
the FA need to stamp down on this now or people will start using it as a tactic.. protest or not.
 



Give some credit to a lowly placed team that knew our system, countered it and outfought us and also scored a very well worked goal and could have scored another. Their keeper was never called upon.

There must be reasons for Wilder not playing Duffy when we play three games in 8 days but when he is not there the other players do not seem able to step up to the challenge in the final third. Nobody takes the responsibility to open up the opposition defence. In this respect I suggest Stevens can do it but seems unable to maintain confidence levels and bottles out. Baldock tries but hasn't the vision or the required touch upfield. Leonard must be a very good player but he is struggling to settle in the club and has not played this level before. Fleck needs runners and they are not offering themselves as much these days. He is less industrious at the same time. Lundstram is a 6/10 player as yet, has a long ball but not the finesse in the final third, though he arrives late in the box well and is calm with his scoring opportunities. Holmes is an unknown quantity but must be an exciting player, though Charlton have done very well without him. Southend have done very well too lately but Brown left at the same time as Leonard. Evans looked superb in his first two games but strangely has not played as well against lesser opposition when his role changes slightly.

The strikers do try hard but the old familiar pattern is now blocked by the opposition who have sussed us and we are weak providing service if Duffy is absent or marked out of the game. Certainly for whatever reason the ball does not reach them in telling positions.

I've not heard Wilder's interview but he signed 4 players in January and applauded the Board for backing him. There were risks bedding in 4 players and that is where we are at right now. None of them have hit the ground running but more established players are on the bench more. New signings can boost the squad mood but not if they don't quickly show what they can add.
err . do you mind.. we'll have less of that fucking common sense round here pal :D
great analysis
 

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