How much money do we need to move forward?

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

This transfer window? Enough to finance two loan signings at £20k a week each. That’s the level of quality we need. A couple of players to inject a bit of pazzazz, because things are going a little flat on us at the moment.

 

[grafikhaus]

Three thoughts:

The way I see it, we are the equivalent of Everton in the Premiership. To get near the top six they have spent over a hundred million but there is still a glass ceiling preventing them from making it further. I wouldn't say they have been particularly wasteful, its just the players other clubs have are just on a different level that they are never going to be able to sign (De Bruyne, Ozil etc). Any gem they do nurture has to be sold (Rooney, Barkley Rodwell) due to the nature of football.

Not for a moment do I think we're the 'Everton of the Championship'. They've spent a lot with nothing to show for it - or even the prospect of winning owt. I think we're in a situation similar to Spurs with Pochettino at Spurs (without the talent) - bright, youngish manager but no funds in the summer and none in the upcoming JTW, leading to stories of the manager leaving. Even if they spent fortunes, they might win a cup but no chance of the title.

Forget talk of going up. Our aim should be to stabilise at this level (not stagnate). Become a Birmingham, QPR or - yes - Preston.

Mention of Jermaine Defoe, Andy Carroll type players should be dropped. Massive wages, possible dressing-room unrest, no guarantee of success and zero future transfer fee. Too big a risk. Young players are the way forward.

How much do we need to move forward? Fuck knows. I think our problems at the moment are a lack of fitness and desire which can take you a long way if addressed (see Southampton v Arsenal yesterday). This is surely why we start games well but fall off a cliff later in the game, but can be rectified, although the age of our squad limits this. (we've conceded over 34% of all goals in the last 15 minutes of games this season, and nearly 58% in the last 30 minutes).

 

[I should coco]

20m would take us up

It wouldn't keep us up

No, the right £20m might take us up.

The 'wrong' £20m would just put us in the queue behind Wendy.

There no guarantees in football. Fulham have spunked £100m and sit in the bottom 3.

 

[BushBlade]

No, the right £20m might take us up.

The 'wrong' £20m would just put us in the queue behind Wendy.

There no guarantees in football. Fulham have spunked £100m and sit in the bottom 3.

It’s kind of irrelevant. We won’t be spending £20m while our two owners are fighting over custody of a club neither can afford to run. The sooner people get their heads round this and stop saying ‘we just need to...’ like there’s a simple solution that everyone else is too fucking thick to see, the better. It’s our mini-Brexit, a car crash is coming whatever the outcome and all we can do is stare through the windscreen at the oncoming juggernaut and hope it doesn’t fuck us all up.
Happy Christmas.

 

[I should coco]

It’s our mini-Brexit, a car crash is coming whatever the outcome and all we can do is stare through the windscreen at the oncoming juggernaut and hope it doesn’t fuck us all up.

Yeah, but £20m would buy a lot of airbags and/or cones to divert the juggernaut.

We might even have some left over to pay Defoe's wages for two and a half weeks...

Don't forget that plenty on here ignore reality, discuss the impossible then look surprised when it doesn't happen.



Oh....and Merry Xmas to all our Indonesian correspondents.

 

[BushBlade]

Yeah, but £20m would buy a lot of airbags and/or cones to divert the juggernaut.

We might even have some left over to pay Defoe's wages for two and a half weeks...

Don't forget that plenty on here ignore reality, discuss the impossible then look surprised when it doesn't happen.



Oh....and Merry Xmas to all our Indonesian correspondents.

Don’t ‘Xmas’ me. Either take the trouble to type Christmas or don’t bother. It’s like people who sign off emails with ‘KR’. Sorry, but if it’s too much effort to type Kind regards, take your insincerity and poke it up your arse.

 

[Sean Thornton]

It’s kind of irrelevant. We won’t be spending £20m while our two owners are fighting over custody of a club neither can afford to run. The sooner people get their heads round this and stop saying ‘we just need to...’ like there’s a simple solution that everyone else is too fucking thick to see, the better. It’s our mini-Brexit, a car crash is coming whatever the outcome and all we can do is stare through the windscreen at the oncoming juggernaut and hope it doesn’t fuck us all up.
Happy Christmas.

‘‘Tis the season to be jolly........

 

[I should coco]

Don’t ‘Xmas’ me. Either take the trouble to type Christmas or don’t bother. It’s like people who sign off emails with ‘KR’. Sorry, but if it’s too much effort to type Kind regards, take your insincerity and poke it up your arse.

I though the 'X' was a mysterious good luck sign in the Far East and I was paying you a personal compliment.

www.wikipedia.theXisareetluckythingintheFarEast,innit.com

A bit like Cardiff playing in red or similar bollocks or possibly not and just laziness on my part.

I do not sign off emails 'KR' but thanks very much for this labour saving tip.

YS

ISC

 

[Sean Thornton]

Don’t ‘Xmas’ me. Either take the trouble to type Christmas or don’t bother. It’s like people who sign off emails with ‘KR’. Sorry, but if it’s too much effort to type Kind regards, take your insincerity and poke it up your arse.

Leave my brother alone. He’s spesh.

 

[I should coco]

Leave my brother alone. He’s spesh.

Daddy says you should be going round all the city's receptions to discuss profitability. Aparently all office buidings within hearing of the St Mary's Church Bow Bells make a loss or something, but you have to go in the reception to find out.

KR

Si

 

[Sean Thornton]

Daddy says you should be going round all the city's receptions to discuss profitability. Aparently all office buidings within hearing of the St Mary's Church Bow Bells make a loss or something, but you have to go in the reception to find out.

KR

Si

 

[I should coco]

Wow, Scott that's great!

We could have a monorail linking the Regus office block to the other corners of the ground to help people get home for their tea earlier. That way, no one would have to stay until the end to clap the oiks on the pitch.

Do you think we'd have to sell a few more of the oiks to fund it?

YS

Si

 

[Sean Thornton]

Wow, Scott that's great!

We could have a monorail linking the Regus office block to the other corners of the ground to help people get home for their tea earlier. That way, no one would have to stay until the end to clap the oiks on the pitch.

Do you think we'd have to sell a few more of the oiks to fund it?

YS

Si

Some are going already. I heard Mr Wilder on the ‘phone to Mr Wit.

BushBlade won’t care for it but I do like this whimsical Winterval Bantz.

 

[I should coco]

Don’t ‘Xmas’ me. Either take the trouble to type Christmas or don’t bother

You learn something every day.....

The word "Christ" and its compounds, including "Christmas", have been abbreviated in English for at least the past 1,000 years, long before the modern "Xmas" was commonly used. "Christ" was often written as "Xρ" or "Xt"; there are references in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as far back as 1021. This X and P arose as the uppercase forms of the Greek letters χ (Ch) and ρ (R) used in ancient abbreviations for Χριστος (Greek for "Christ").[1] The Chi-Rho, an amalgamation of the two Greek letters rendered as ☧,[note 1] is a symbol often used to represent Christ in Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox Christian Churches.[23]

The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) and the OED Supplement have cited usages of "X-" or "Xp-" for "Christ-" as early as 1485. The terms "Xtian" and less commonly "Xpian" have also been used for "Christian". The OED further cites usage of "Xtianity" for "Christianity" from 1634.[1] According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage, most of the evidence for these words comes from "educated Englishmen who knew their Greek".[11]

In ancient Christian art, χ and χρ are abbreviations for Christ's name.[24] In many manuscripts of the New Testament and icons, Χ is an abbreviation for Χριστος,[25] as is XC (the first and last letters in Greek, using the lunate sigma);[26] compare IC for Jesus in Greek.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas

Non controversial greetings of the season.

 

[cahill]

I'd just like enough dosh to ensure consolidation in the Championship for a few seasons, anything else is a bonus

 

[mancunianblade]

Would anything but ridiculous investment make any difference? I mean at the minute our recruitment is about spotting players that other teams miss..

If Wilder was backed and given money to compete with teams around us then all that changes is we start looking at a pool of players that all those around us are looking at and when we offer £40k pw they offer £10k/£20k/£30k pw more.. of we match them then you have a squad of 18 players who justifiably go erm what about my wages??

Our releuctance to look abroad is our issue I would suggest.we can’t compete with those around us so we need to look elsewhere and the whilst the recruitment has been outstanding to date I can’t help but feel it’s
been exhausted now and our limit is 5th at best and losing at the semi finals of the Play offs

One major concern for me right now is the GK position. Blackman was good and Henderson outstanding but to make Hendersons deal permanent we are looking at £10m-£20m I’m basing that on Angus Gunn joining Soton for £13.5m and to date has only made an appearance in the cup.

I maybe wrong but I don’t feel anyone let alone Wilder has the ability to convince a player to join us when he could go 4/5/6/7?? Other clubs in the league and earn £20k per week more..

 

[Come from away]

It’s kind of irrelevant. We won’t be spending £20m while our two owners are fighting over custody of a club neither can afford to run. The sooner people get their heads round this and stop saying ‘we just need to...’ like there’s a simple solution that everyone else is too fucking thick to see, the better. It’s our mini-Brexit, a car crash is coming whatever the outcome and all we can do is stare through the windscreen at the oncoming juggernaut and hope it doesn’t fuck us all up.
Happy Christmas.

With the current owners we are not going to see twenty million pounds spent so do not see us buying our way into the Premiership, we might make the playoffs and sneak in and will have to hope Huddersfield remain so we have somebody to beat.

 

[Bellypork]

United's problem is that they have to play well to win, and that's not really possible throughout a whole season. United do require forward(s) who can conjure something from nothing, but the problem then is that the wage structure isn't just broken, it's shattered. I mean, how can you have one or two strikers on £30-40 K a week, when nobody else earns more than, say, £15 K? I much prefer United's approach to that of Wednesday, but in this regard it does have its limitations. So I would say that United require a considerable amount of money, because the wage structure as a whole would have to be increased. It's not just about finding the funds for one or more magicians up front.

 

[Tezza1889]

With a bang average manager it’s about 100 million to get from league one to premiership safety, look at Southampton’s spend and that wouldn’t be far off bearing in mind they kept their gems as they rose up to the top division.. and we ... never mind..

Under wilder you can half that price, but we won’t come out of the dark ages regarding investment, fees, and wages..

Probably best we stay where we are, and flirt with the playoffs a little bit..

They didn’t spend enough last time we got up and nothings changed has it..

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Jack Marriott 2/3 mill
Kemal roofs 2/3 million
Asosombaonga 2/3 million

Sign them before they get signed and become 10 million players !!!!!

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Jack Marriott 2/3 mill
Kemal roofs 2/3 million
Asosombaonga 2/3 million

Sign them before they get signed and become 10 million players !!!!!

We're caught in a tricky situation, we could do with picking up some uncut lower league diamonds and polishing them for a couple of seasons because we haven't got the £'s to buy the finished article, but we've not got the £'s or the time to spend on the wider squad, as every £ has to be wisely spent putting players on the pitch. Perversely, we can neither buy instant success nor speculate to accumulate. The obvious thing to do would be scour the European markets, but that appears to run contrary to our current team ethos.

 

[Bladebri]

If we had clarke firing on all cylinders we would have to spend a lot less.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

If we had clarke firing on all cylinders we would have to spend a lot less.

Clarke will never fire on all cylinders he’s played like that for 2 months in ten years and is 33 sorry but he’s not the striker we need

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Clarke will never fire on all cylinders he’s played like that for 2 months in ten years and is 33 sorry but he’s not the striker we need

In 50 days time he turns 34, and judging by what he's contributed in the last 13 months and what he is currently contributing, I hope he's not drawing a wage from us come September 2019, but it sadly appears that he will be. He timed his goals last year to perfection, signed his improved contract about this time last year, which lasts until the end of next season and I bet he laughs himself to sleep every night.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

In 50 days time he turns 34, and judging by what he's contributed in the last 13 months and what he is currently contributing, I hope he's not drawing a wage from us come September 2019, but it sadly appears that he will be. He timed his goals last year to perfection, signed his improved contract about this time last year, which lasts until the end of next season and I bet he laughs himself to sleep every night.

He’s still an asset if he gets fit but havin Sharp Clarke and McGoldrick all 30 odd isn’t good

 

[Lawrence]

10 million on 2 attacking midfielders and a genuine goal scorer, or 3 genius buys from CW?! that would give us a fighting chance of promotion, and when we win promotion 50 million next season.... it won’t happen but you did ask! MeRRy ChRisTMas