How Come?

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Leeds, a 3rd tier team, can manage to fend off the vultures circling above Beckford and Snodgrass with relative ease, yet we use the excuse that if a PL team comes knocking "we can't refuse".

I guess it could be case that they haven't learnt their lesson from Administration...

Its something that grated on me with the Kyles, but we almost had to accept what McCabe (and Robinson) said about losing these players because how could we possibly compete with the big bully boys of the PL.

Presuming for a moment that we can afford to keep our stars (we must be able to if we can be spunking up to 3million on the likes of Ched) then why are we so vulnerable to the vultures when they come with a blankety blank cheque book and pen?




But wasnt Leeds sale of Fabian Delph to Villa the same as the Kyles deal ?
 

Leeds, a 3rd tier team, can manage to fend off the vultures circling above Beckford and Snodgrass with relative ease, yet we use the excuse that if a PL team comes knocking "we can't refuse".

I guess it could be case that they haven't learnt their lesson from Administration...

Its something that grated on me with the Kyles, but we almost had to accept what McCabe (and Robinson) said about losing these players because how could we possibly compete with the big bully boys of the PL.

Presuming for a moment that we can afford to keep our stars (we must be able to if we can be spunking up to 3million on the likes of Ched) then why are we so vulnerable to the vultures when they come with a blankety blank cheque book and pen?

I can't take this Leeds example seriously baring in mind they sold Delph, something which United fans seem to pass over when using them as an example of a club who fend off the vultures. Make no mistake about it, if Beckford & that other player were good enough, they'd be off.
 
Very easy question to answer Swiss.

It's because their chairman has not saddled the club with a ridiculous property venture (Blades Realty) that is, in my opinion, losing shed loads of money and is under pressure from banks to cough up what is due at time when cash returns from property are alarmingly low.

Leeds to finish above us next term is one of life's great certainties.

I bet you a Blackwell hug they don't.
 
No, their chairman instead was forced to offload all of their property assets and dodgily put the club into administration, ripping off many companies... some local, small and fans of the club.

Then, he hiked the ticket prices.

Which banks are putting pressure on the Blades? Would you seriously prefer the Leeds way?

Is it such a certainty that you are willing to plow in the money to match the "ambition" your require? or is it just easier when its the money of someone else?

Micailjo, if you come up here and find me a Leeds fan that likes Ken Bates I'll give you a £1 for each, got a crumpled £5 in my pocket so should cover it. They've got a good team assembled over a few years but they've sold plenty as well. The difference with Leeds is their support - big on numbers, noisy and behind the team (and against Bates ironically enough). It's Premier League support and as much as I hate them, I have to admire their capacity to stick through thin and thinner.

The only certainty next season is that when Leeds come to BDTBL, after we finish GCB and start the intermittment booing, it'll be drowned out by WACCOE (We are the Champions, Champions of Europe) for 45 minutes. :(:(:(
 
I haven't got a clue what you are on about. I've said plenty of times I don't expect anyone to chuck their own money at a football club with no hope of any return. I aint too bothered about the so called lack of ambition and McCabe showed plenty in summer 2007. I've said plentry of times as well that it is possible to do well in our league with a small ish budget and a decent manager.

What I don't want is a property developer in charge who sees the football club as a way of increasing his personal wealth - with the secondary hope that it produces a meaningful income stream for the club. Sadly it has all gone horribly wrong, all in my opinion.

Horribly wrong?! We're in the bloody playoffs for Christ's sake. Don Givens is "horribly wrong", Boxing Day is "horribly wrong". Having a chairman who is overly cautious is not SUFC going "horribly wrong". Keep those toys in the pram, things can get much, much worse with United.
 
Agree with the above. I generally think our club shows no decent level of ambition but in this case we showed a little, but at the wrong time. What I have never understood is why we gave Robson loads of money to get us nowhere, when 12 months earlier the chairman could have backed Warnock in assembling a team of similar value.

Yes I know we most likely used the parachute payments to finance Robson's spending spree but we knew the season before that we would get parachute payments if we went down so why didnt we budget that forthcoming to finance a team capable of staying up?!

Just showed that the Chairman had little belief in Warnock and threw all the eggs in one basket with Robson.


What are you basing this on? It's my understanding that the money was there, Warnock just chose not to spend it.

If he had spent heavily and we'd still gone down, i doubt we would've had the money to buy Beattie.
 
But wasnt Leeds sale of Fabian Delph to Villa the same as the Kyles deal ?

You're probably right. I'm not sure on the Delph deal, I'm only really going off recent events with Beckford and the stuff about Snodgrass.
 
Micailjo, if you come up here and find me a Leeds fan that likes Ken Bates I'll give you a £1 for each, got a crumpled £5 in my pocket so should cover it. They've got a good team assembled over a few years but they've sold plenty as well. The difference with Leeds is their support - big on numbers, noisy and behind the team (and against Bates ironically enough). It's Premier League support and as much as I hate them, I have to admire their capacity to stick through thin and thinner.

The only certainty next season is that when Leeds come to BDTBL, after we finish GCB and start the intermittment booing, it'll be drowned out by WACCOE (We are the Champions, Champions of Europe) for 45 minutes. :(:(:(

Absolute bobbins. Leeds are the worst supported big city club in the UK by some distance.
Absolutely shocking support. Sheffield's average with two crappy teams is close on 50,000 this year, Leeds is probably half that.
You could pick on any other big city and it's the same.
 
Absolute bobbins. Leeds are the worst supported big city club in the UK by some distance.
Absolutely shocking support. Sheffield's average with two crappy teams is close on 50,000 this year, Leeds is probably half that.
You could pick on any other big city and it's the same.

There's two clubs in Leeds Len. :rolleyes:
 
it'll be drowned out by WACCOE (We are the Champions, Champions of Europe) for 45 minutes. :(:(:(

Incidently, why do they sing that? Is it irony thats lost on me?

I checked and they won the Fairs (Uefa) cup in 70-71. Hardly Champions of Europe or did it actually mean something to win that cup back then?

What a very strange bunch of muppets they are
 
We cash in on Killa and concede two soft goals v Bolton.
Leeds keep Beckford at the risk of losing him for nothing in the summer, and he gets two goals v Spurs

So who's right? Us Obviously! because we've got 2 million (apparently)
 
Swiss, Leeds are in a better financial position than us at this moment in time, because they ditched there debt. Give us a hand out of £25 Million do you think we wouldn't be in the same position?

Anyway who's to say Beckford is staying?
 

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