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Interestingly.......If you are to take into consideration the points totals of previous seasons, then solid home form alone could well be enough to take us at the very least close to promotion. We currently sit on 56 points and have another 30 points up for grabs at Bramall Lane this season, in the last 5 seasons the points totals that have secured 1st and 2nd place (in that order) have been as following.

15/16 - Wigan 87 Burton 85
14/15 - Bristol City 99 Mk Cons 91
13/14 - Wolves 103 Brentford 94
12/13 - Doncaster 84 Bournemouth 83
11/12 - Chorlton 101 B*stards 93

We now have 30 points to play for at our beautiful home, and 30 points to play for on the road!....The way I am trying to look at it is that we need to set out to win every single home game at the bare minimum, any points dropped need to be picked up on the road with wins. We have a few tough games at the lane with obviously 4 of the current top 6 coming to play us however we would much rather have them at our place in the second half of the season as opposed to on the road.

Home Fixtures

Gillingham (21/01/17)
Fleetwood (24/01/17)
AFC Wombledon (04/02/17)
Scunthorpe (18/02/17)
Bolton (25/02/17)
Millwall (11/03/17)
Chorlton (18/03/17)
Coventry (01/04/17)
Bradford (17/04/17)
Chedsterfield (30/04/17)

Away Fixtures

Warsaw (14/01/17)
Oxford (28/01/17)
P'boro (11/02/17)
Bristol Rovers (14/02/17)
Rochdale (04/03/17)
Swindon (14/03/17)
Oldham (25/03/17)
Northampton (08/04/17)
Port Vale (14/04/17)
MK Cons (22/04/17)

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If there is anything that bothers me it's our home form

Were winning yes, but it is very laboured
We seem to be better at beating teams that open up against us on their own patch

The Bolton, Scunthorpe, Bradford games at home actually worry me a bit
All three teams are defensively better than what we have struggled to beat at home and all three can hurt us more on the break than those teams as well
 
JJBlade said:
The Bolton, Scunthorpe, Bradford games at home actually worry me a bit
All three teams are defensively better than what we have struggled to beat at home and all three can hurt us more on the break than those teams as well
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Picking up points before we get to these games is important so that when they come to the Lane a point will be much better for us than them.
 
Hopefully our new signings will help our home form quite a lot. Carruthers and one or two wide players could make quite a difference in the games we seem most likely to drop points - against teams parking the bus.

Away from home I have no concerns whatsoever. Playing away suits us perfectly and we're convincing.
 
Ricky said:
Hopefully our new signings will help our home form quite a lot. Carruthers and one or two wide players could make quite a difference in the games we seem most likely to drop points - against teams parking the bus.

Away from home I have no concerns whatsoever. Playing away suits us perfectly and we're convincing.
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Where are the wide players going to fit in? Can't see us switching from the current formation.
 
The_Green_Man said:
Interestingly.......If you are to take into consideration the points totals of previous seasons, then solid home form alone could well be enough to take us at the very least close to promotion. We currently sit on 56 points and have another 30 points up for grabs at Bramall Lane this season, in the last 5 seasons the points totals that have secured 1st and 2nd place (in that order) have been as following.

15/16 - Wigan 87 Burton 85
14/15 - Bristol City 99 Mk Cons 91
13/14 - Wolves 103 Brentford 94
12/13 - Doncaster 84 Bournemouth 83
11/12 - Chorlton 101 B*stards 93

We now have 30 points to play for at our beautiful home, and 30 points to play for on the road!....The way I am trying to look at it is that we need to set out to win every single home game at the bare minimum, any points dropped need to be picked up on the road with wins. We have a few tough games at the lane with obviously 4 of the current top 6 coming to play us however we would much rather have them at our place in the second half of the season as opposed to on the road.

Home Fixtures

Gillingham (21/01/17)
Fleetwood (24/01/17)
AFC Wombledon (04/02/17)
Scunthorpe (18/02/17)
Bolton (25/02/17)
Millwall (11/03/17)
Chorlton (18/03/17)
Coventry (01/04/17)
Bradford (17/04/17)
Chedsterfield (30/04/17)

Away Fixtures

Warsaw (14/01/17)
Oxford (28/01/17)
P'boro (11/02/17)
Bristol Rovers (14/02/17)
Rochdale (04/03/17)
Swindon (14/03/17)
Oldham (25/03/17)
Northampton (08/04/17)
Port Vale (14/04/17)
MK Cons (22/04/17)

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11wins should see us promoted and I can see us getting at least half of those away from home.

Remember we just need to get more points than 3rd place and it is rare that more than 90 points is required for promotion ( unless we are involved)
 
One game at a time,Sweet Jesus,
That's all I'm asking of you.....
 
WhiteHawk said:
3 out of the last 5 seasons have required more than 90 points.
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Only season in the last five years where more than 90 points were required was when we finished 3rd.

11/12 SUFC 90 points
12/13 Brentford 79 points
13/14 Orient 86 points
14/15 PNE 89 points
15/16 Walsall 84 points
 
bartman said:
Only season in the last five years where more than 90 points were required was when we finished 3rd.

11/12 SUFC 90 points
12/13 Brentford 79 points
13/14 Orient 86 points
14/15 PNE 89 points
15/16 Walsall 84 points
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See the original post?

15/16 - Wigan 87 Burton 85
14/15 - Bristol City 99 Mk Cons 91
13/14 - Wolves 103 Brentford 94
12/13 - Doncaster 84 Bournemouth 83
11/12 - Chorlton 101 B*stards 93
 
PokerBlade said:
Picking up points before we get to these games is important so that when they come to the Lane a point will be much better for us than them.
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spot on poker i think by the time we play these 3 games they will need the win more than us so theyve all got to have a go at us which imo will play right in to our hands
 



bartman said:
Only season in the last five years where more than 90 points were required was when we finished 3rd.

11/12 SUFC 90 points
12/13 Brentford 79 points
13/14 Orient 86 points
14/15 PNE 89 points
15/16 Walsall 84 points
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I think across all three divisions it's only ever happened twice. Sunderland finished on 90 points in 1998 and lost the playoff final.

They stormed the league and went up as champions with 105 points the following season...
 
Ricky said:
Hopefully our new signings will help our home form quite a lot. Carruthers and one or two wide players could make quite a difference in the games we seem most likely to drop points - against teams parking the bus.
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Assuming Carruthers isn't permanently injured... Satdi wasn't too promising for him.
 
Home form is no more vital than away form. They are equally important - same number of games- same number of points.

McCabe made this excuse/mistake when sacking Wilson, citing the home form as the reason, yet if he'd done his maths he'd have seen that we'd got more points from away games because we'd played more of them at that stage and the average was similar!
 
wesleysnipesmen said:
You'd need more points than the team that finished 2nd that season to finish 2nd.
When we finished 3rd we got 90, pigs got 93. 91 points is more than 3rd but not enough to go up.
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the team that finishes second only has to get more points than the team that finishes third to get promoted. if you get more points than the team that finishes second you are champions. In your scenario the pigs needed 91 points to get promoted
 
The title to this thread should be 'form is vital'.

Then someone would say 'well, yeah'.

Then that'd be the thread.
 
bartman said:
the team that finishes second only has to get more points than the team that finishes third to get promoted. if you get more points than the team that finishes second you are champions. In your scenario the pigs needed 91 points to get promoted
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Fair enough, we're looking at it differently. I'm thinking more as in how many points we would've actually needed each season to get second
 
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