Henderson's weakness

[BushBlade]

The getting beat at the near post myth frustrates me, yes the ball is closer to you but the majority of the time you're expecting the ball to go across so your weight is already shifted that way. I always think saving a shot at the near post is more impressive because it requires fantastic reactions combined with great reading of how a striker is lining up their shot.

I’ve posted this before but I remember a senior goalkeeping coach talking about ‘goalkeeping myths’ and the one that really wound him up was the ‘shouldn’t get beaten at the near post’. To paraphrase, he said it was total bollocks perpetuated by people who didn’t know what they were talking about.

 

[CrookesBlade]

The getting beat at the near post myth frustrates me, yes the ball is closer to you but the majority of the time you're expecting the ball to go across so your weight is already shifted that way. I always think saving a shot at the near post is more impressive because it requires fantastic reactions combined with great reading of how a striker is lining up their shot.

“It’s a myth. Something I have never understood. One day someone just came up with it and said a goalkeeper should never be beaten at their near post.

Anyone who has played in goal knows it’s a huge area and you try to cover the whole goal. You can’t try and cover the whole goal and the guarantee the ball won’t go in at the near post if it’s a great shot. Near post, far post, you try to cover it all and you’re not happy if it goes in anywhere.”Kasper Schmeichel

 

[guancheblade]

It's been discussed before on this forum after the Watford game; when he failed to anticipate the ball over the top and was slow off his line and when he did come off it he didn't fully commit and was stranded in no man's land and was beaten at his near post.

Every keeper makes mistakes, and yes he has saved us (forgive the pun) more points than lost. But if he is to become a top class keeper and this part of the game has to improve. He first made this 'error' against Leicester earlier on in the season for Vardy's first (granted Basham was more responsible then).

It happened again today. Now in mitigation he perhaps didn't want to hurl himself at the ball as was aware he was the sub keeper, we were winning 2-0 and it is an FA Cup game which would pale in significance should he get injured and it was a fine finish.

Nevertheless it's the third time this season that he has been conceded this sort of goal that I've seen. Something that he needs continuous training on that I'm sure that he's getting.

He could do much worse than try to learn from the best in world football at this skill:

The reaction from Henderson for the Fylde goal was weak sauce IMO

 

[CarlMcBlade]

His love for Man Utd ?

 

[Cerberus Blade]

He amost got caught out again today at his near post. Thankfully the shot went into the side netting.
Question is. Is Henderson learning from his mistakes ? Atm the answer is no. UTB

The near post has been a problem for many good goalkeepers down the years. The solution is to replace it with another far post surely?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That agility - and we are talking about the kids weaknesses?????????

 

[FMBlade1]

That agility - and we are talking about the kids weaknesses?????????

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If he wants to reach his full potential and become England's first choice he needs to improve in some aspects.

That's not slagging him off, indeed Wilder said exactly the same after the first Liverpool game.

 

[Brian Deane]

That agility - and we are talking about the kids weaknesses?????????

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Agility shoud be standard at his age. There's also not many "Pork pie Pressman's" around these days thankfully.

* Apologies to all te Porkpies out there* UTB

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

I thought that it was money and fame!?

 

[FMBlade1]

Should have anticipated the ball coming over and hack it clear for the Anderson chance and was lucky he missed it.

That said it was better positioning than going into no-man's land. Came out well to claim a catch on the edge of the area later.

Keep improving

 

[FMBlade1]

Cracking save!

 

[Breakingblade]

For that Anderson chance he left a huge hole at the near post, I was really afraid of a Watford repeat

 

[Brian Deane]

For that Anderson chance he left a huge hole at the near post, I was really afraid of a Watford repeat

Yep. Still not learning from his mistakes quick enough. Great save from the free kick though. UTB

 

[Hague Blade]

I thought he should have saved the Snodgrass shot too. VAR got him and Egan out of jail.

 

[CornwallBlade]

I thought he should have saved the Snodgrass shot too. VAR got him and Egan out of jail.

The goal came as a direct result of us, yet again, squandering possession. We were comfortable on the ball in midfield passing it around and for some reason thought it a good idea to go back to Henderson who hoofed it out of play. They had a throw in and went straight upfield to score. We looked really good on the ball when we passed it about so I just don’t understand why he kicks it long rather than playing it short to players in space. He’s a great shot stopper but modern keepers need to be able play as a sweeper. That’s the only area that bothers me.

 

[SwissBlade]

For that Anderson chance he left a huge hole at the near post, I was really afraid of a Watford repeat

I think we forget sometimes that he's a young lad and is still a work in progress, so he will make mistakes. Thats why he's not currently England or Man U's keeper.

But like every player in the squad, they will be working on the weaknesses as well as his strengths.

Top social media shit housing after the game though

 

[LJBlade]

Should have anticipated the ball coming over and hack it clear for the Anderson chance and was lucky he missed it.

That said it was better positioning than going into no-man's land. Came out well to claim a catch on the edge of the area later.

Keep improving

You mean the chance where Anderson got onto the ball about 20 yards outside of the penalty area about half a second after Egan miss-timed his header?

There’s no goalkeeper on planet Earth who would have anticipated that. He would’ve had to have set off immediately after their keeper kicked the ball to have stood any chance of getting there before Anderson.

Using that example against him seems a little bit desperate

 

[FMBlade1]

You mean the chance where Anderson got onto the ball about 20 yards outside of the penalty area about half a second after Egan miss-timed his header?

There’s no goalkeeper on planet Earth who would have anticipated that. He would’ve had to have set off immediately after their keeper kicked the ball to have stood any chance of getting there before Anderson.

Using that example against him seems a little bit desperate

32 seconds in.

Henderson has the potential to be one of the best goalkeepers in the world if he improves in this aspect.

 

[LJBlade]

And?

 

[FMBlade1]

And?

Last time I checked Neuer is a goalkeeper on planet Earth, unless Mars have signed him in the Hohmann transfer window.

 

[LJBlade]

Last time I checked Neuer is a goalkeeper on planet Earth, unless Mars have signed him in the Hohmann transfer window.

So Neuer coming out of his box sometimes means that he’d have been able to move around 30 yards in the space of a second?

Have you watched the game back again and thought about what it is that you’re saying? In order for Henderson (or any keeper) to have got the ball before Anderson he would have had to have been stood around 10 yards behind Egan when he miss-timed his header. This would’ve put him a good distance outside of his penalty area.

I’ll repeat, there’s no goalkeeper on planet Earth that would’ve anticipated that situation in the very, very short amount of time that they had to do so. Don’t be so desperate.

 

[FMBlade1]

So Neuer coming out of his box sometimes means that he’d have been able to move around 30 yards in the space of a second?

Have you watched the game back again and thought about what it is that you’re saying? In order for Henderson (or any keeper) to have got the ball before Anderson he would have had to have been stood around 10 yards behind Egan when he miss-timed his header. This would’ve put him a good distance outside of his penalty area.

I’ll repeat, there’s no goalkeeper on planet Earth that would’ve anticipated that situation in the very, very short amount of time that they had to do so. Don’t be so desperate.

Desperate for Henderson to be the best goalkeeper in the world, not to criticize him.

It wasn't easy but if he was on the edge of the area awake and anticipating it there's a good chance he would have got there. If not he may have been able to nip the ball off Anderson for a poor touch, as he should have done with the Watford goal.

It was a really bad miss by Anderson and Henderson got away with it. That's not to say that Egan shouldn't take some responsibility as well.

In any event it's the third time this situation has occurred since Christmas so needs addressing. Don't mind mistakes, as long as we learn from them and don't repeat, regardless of our level.

 

[BushBlade]

The goal came as a direct result of us, yet again, squandering possession. We were comfortable on the ball in midfield passing it around and for some reason thought it a good idea to go back to Henderson who hoofed it out of play. They had a throw in and went straight upfield to score. We looked really good on the ball when we passed it about so I just don’t understand why he kicks it long rather than playing it short to players in space. He’s a great shot stopper but modern keepers need to be able play as a sweeper. That’s the only area that bothers me.

His distribution was L1 yesterday. If OGS thinks he can play for Man U it explains why he’s struggling as a manager.

 

[LJBlade]

Desperate for Henderson to be the best goalkeeper in the world, not to criticize him.

It wasn't easy but if he was on the edge of the area awake and anticipating it there's a good chance he would have got there. If not he may have been able to nip the ball off Anderson for a poor touch, as he should have done with the Watford goal.

It was a really bad miss by Anderson and Henderson got away with it. That's not to say that Egan shouldn't take some responsibility as well.

In any event it's the third time this situation has occurred since Christmas so needs addressing. Don't mind mistakes, as long as we learn from them and don't repeat, regardless of our level.

Anderson got the ball a good 10 yards from the penalty area about a second after Egan’s header. I don’t know any goalkeeper that could cover that distance in that amount of time. He wasn’t to know that Egan would miss the header, so there’s no blame there and after that your suggestion is that he’d have had to have hoped that Anderson got a poor touch on the ball.

Henderson didn’t get away with anything, there’s no part of that situation that he’s to blame for. Full responsibility is on Egan. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous

 

[blade67]

“It’s a myth. Something I have never understood. One day someone just came up with it and said a goalkeeper should never be beaten at their near post.

Anyone who has played in goal knows it’s a huge area and you try to cover the whole goal. You can’t try and cover the whole goal and the guarantee the ball won’t go in at the near post if it’s a great shot. Near post, far post, you try to cover it all and you’re not happy if it goes in anywhere.”Kasper Schmeichel

what the fuck does he know about it

I'd rather take notice of some obsessed no mark on here thanks

 

[Rochdaleblade]

Surely Hendo should be signed up for the next series of Strictly after his save from the free kick last night. He makes about four steps to the right after the ball has been struck to make the save look easy. It looked destined to hit the inside of the netting but he almost caught it. It wasn't his most spectacular save but for me it was one of his best. How many other keepers that we have had recently would have just gone the full superman and flailed helplessly at it?

 

[Cheesebored]

 

[Bladesthorpe]

Not being critical but why didn't he just shout to Egan to leave it and it would have easily have run through to him ?

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

For that Anderson chance he left a huge hole at the near post, I was really afraid of a Watford repeat

If he had moved to cover the left-hand post, he would have left a huge gap at the right-hand post. From the position Anderson was in, it was impossible to cover the whole goal.

 

[Jan Age]

For that Anderson chance he left a huge hole at the near post, I was really afraid of a Watford repeat

I 100% agree... it’s harder for the striker to shoot across goal then in at the near post. If Anderson had bothered to look up it would have been a simple finish at the near post.

Its a privilege to have him at the Lane and he will be future England number 1.

He does need to work in his positioning, distribution and decision making. But what young keeper doesn’t?