Heckingbottom Out, Wilder In

[BladeInIreland]

I’d be amazed if he isn’t here by Wolves at home. Will he sooner than that though. Pressure will be immense when we lose to Fulham next Saturday.

Still looking likely?

 

[JayGreen17]

Bump

 

[HarryHaslam]

I was all for Wilder but now I’m not so sure, because he’s best mates with Paul Mitchell and so the scouting team would stay the same. How our head scout could watch some of the players we signed and thought yeah he looks a player let’s get him in is beyond me. Eyes painted on.

As for a new manager, anyone will do, anyone. Because they cannot be any worse tactically than what we are being served right now

 

[TJ blade]

I was all for Wilder but now I’m not so sure, because he’s best mates with Paul Mitchell and so the scouting team would stay the same. How our head scout could watch some of the players we signed and thought yeah he looks a player let’s get him in is beyond me. Eyes painted on.

As for a new manager, anyone will do, anyone. Because they cannot be any worse tactically than what we are being served right now

the recruitment team( if we have one?) needs fucking sacking along with the Barnsley chump.

 

[Bladezz]

Rumour doing the rounds.

Probably worth letting the club know what the fans think in case it's under serious consideration...

Redo the poll.

 

[Bladezz]

What did Hecky do to get a championship job? Sacked by everyone and yet it works.

He didn’t. He was a yes man.

 

[Bladezz]

The 72 people who voted good idea.

Good on you, you are on the right side of footballing debates. Even when we got shot down constantly.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Redo the poll.

I still wouldn't be in favour of the 'Wilder In' part.

 

[Bladezz]

I still wouldn't be in favour of the 'Wilder In' part.

No worries. Some people got the vote right others didn’t.

 

[Stretch]

Anyone who believes that CW could turn this around is just as deluded as anyone who still thinks PW will.

We need a complete reset. New system. Different tactics. Improved fitness and training methods. Fresh ideas.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

No worries. Some people got the vote right others didn’t.

... and you're the judge of that?

Wilder lacks the mental fortitude to deal with this scenario. We know, as we've seen it before.
He threw shit all over the walls, then quit.

Since then, he's done nothing to convince us he's changed.
If anything, he's doubled and tripled down (see Boro and Watford). Same old story, everything was the player's fault, then the Board's fault, probably blamed the fans too.

He crumbles under pressure. Great when times are good, and he gave us lots of those.
This iteration of us isn't a good fit for him.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Anyone who believes that CW could turn this around is just as deluded as anyone who still thinks PW will.

We need a complete reset. New system. Different tactics. Improved fitness and training methods. Fresh ideas.

Regards the short term

We currently have no tactics, it reminds me of an international team where the players meet up a few days before the match and work on systems for a few days.

Our players are decent individually but don’t know who to play as a team, we have no working midfield, no cohesion.

This is all down to the manager.
We’ve seen with our own eyes Wilder makes a team well drilled, play pass and move football and try to win games with high energy and effort levels.

We were relegated due to struggling to score goals, so we completed well in most games but ended up losing 0-1.

For the short term Wilder would be a massive upgrade on what we’re seeing now.

Regards long term,
then you might have a point.

My issue is if we appoint someone for the long term now then he might be mentally scarred by being relegated this season so we start the new season in the Championship on a downer.

The best solution is to give it Wilder for this season only and judge him on his performances improve. Then review it at the end of the season.

 

[Kizmet]

only positive i can see regards wilder is that he is a fan and will have ideas regards the players strengths and weaknesses as soon as he comes in that wont be based on videos or word of mouth
he did that pretty well last time
anyone who.comes in and doesnt play norwood and souza is an improvement

 

[Stretch]

Regards the short term

We currently have no tactics, it reminds me of an international team where the players meet up a few days before the match and work on systems for a few days.

Our players are decent individually but don’t know who to play as a team, we have no working midfield, no cohesion.

This is all down to the manager.
We’ve seen with our own eyes Wilder makes a team well drilled, play pass and move football and try to win games with high energy and effort levels.

We were relegated due to struggling to score goals, so we completed well in most games but ended up losing 0-1.

For the short term Wilder would be a massive upgrade on what we’re seeing now.

Regards long term,
then you might have a point.

My issue is if we appoint someone for the long term now then he might be mentally scarred by being relegated this season so we start the new season in the Championship on a downer.

The best solution is to give it Wilder for this season only and judge him on his performances improve. Then review it at the end of the season.

I think I am just struggling to shake off the taste of that final season of Chris' last tenure. I agree we were better drilled defensively, but still equally hopeless in creating chances, and he was as tactically inflexible as Paul is currently being.

Would he make us slightly more competitive? Perhaps, but I didn't see enough at either Boro or Watford, who had arguably better squads than we currently have, and at a lower level, to convince me that he has what it takes anymore.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Regards the short term

We currently have no tactics, it reminds me of an international team where the players meet up a few days before the match and work on systems for a few days.

Our players are decent individually but don’t know who to play as a team, we have no working midfield, no cohesion.

This is all down to the manager.
We’ve seen with our own eyes Wilder makes a team well drilled, play pass and move football and try to win games with high energy and effort levels.

We were relegated due to struggling to score goals, so we completed well in most games but ended up losing 0-1.

For the short term Wilder would be a massive upgrade on what we’re seeing now.

Regards long term,
then you might have a point.

My issue is if we appoint someone for the long term now then he might be mentally scarred by being relegated this season so we start the new season in the Championship on a downer.

The best solution is to give it Wilder for this season only and judge him on his performances improve. Then review it at the end of the season.

Where does this belief that Wilder could change things dramatically come from. He couldn’t get his own players performing the last time he was here.

Also, if he’s intent on rebuilding his career a six month job at a club in our state is a risk for him unless he wants to be thought of as just a rescue man, which l very much doubt.

For me, appointing him (or Warnock for that matter) would be the icing on the cake as far as capitulation at the top goes.

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Koh Samui Blade]

Anyone who believes that CW could turn this around is just as deluded as anyone who still thinks PW will.

We need a complete reset. New system. Different tactics. Improved fitness and training methods. Fresh ideas.

R u hoping to pay for all this then.
Be realistic man.

 

[Bladezz]

... and you're the judge of that?

Wilder lacks the mental fortitude to deal with this scenario. We know, as we've seen it before.
He threw shit all over the walls, then quit.

Since then, he's done nothing to convince us he's changed.
If anything, he's doubled and tripled down (see Boro and Watford). Same old story, everything was the player's fault, then the Board's fault, probably blamed the fans too.

He crumbles under pressure. Great when times are good, and he gave us lots of those.
This iteration of us isn't a good fit for him.

No Sheffield United performances showed I was right.

 

[Cappy]

So the first time my contact deliberately gave me any rumour insight was during the time we were looking to replace Hecky. I've asked if it's ok to mention it given plenty of time has passed...

We only seriously engaged with one other manager before a decision was made. Whilst it may be a surprise, because the owner said there was only ever one man for the job, it at least shows the owner only has one kind of manager that he feels is appropriate for his club - and I agree. A no-nonsense type (Wilder, Slav, Hecky)


Mr Roy Keane

 

[LondonBlade89]

So the first time my contact deliberately gave me any rumour insight was during the time we were looking to replace Hecky. I've asked if it's ok to mention it given plenty of time has passed...

We only seriously engaged with one other manager before a decision was made. Whilst it may be a surprise, because the owner said there was only ever one man for the job, it at least shows the owner only has one kind of manager that he feels is appropriate for his club - and I agree. A no-nonsense type (Wilder, Slav, Hecky)


Mr Roy Keane

Your contact was previously accidentally telling you pieces of ‘rumour insight’?

 

[Cappy]

Your contact was previously accidentally telling you pieces of ‘rumour insight’?

I don't drink (much) but that person does. So when we are out, sometimes things would slip, yes

Edit: that made them sound like a piss head. I mean on nights out, that person would have drinks, like a normal person, but I rarely would