CONFIRMED Hamer joins Coventry

[Mojo]

If he was elite pal, he would not have stayed with us. He's good but not elite. No way, the facts back that up I'm afraid. UTB.

Hes not elite by prem standards. But by blades and championship standards he is absolutely elite

 

[Carlton Blade]

Maybe so but we will be playing 75% of them again this season.

We'd better hope that, if the struggles against the top half teams continue, United can keep winning all the matches against the bad teams

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

And mine

Proper stuff,goodbye my friend,I miss licking the counter swimming in salt and vinegar.

 

[Paris_Blade]

Hamer was way below standards last year and still had the most assists in the division. He'd be a huge loss, but I'm not sure what the ambition is for this season.

If the reality is, we're not going to be anywhere near it (which is what you'd expect given the budget constraints), then maybe it's best to cash in and invest in a younger prospect with more resale value on a longer contract.

£8m would be a reasonable figure for him in the circumstsadle

I agree with the logic, 8m would be a good deal imo, can't help but feel 5m would be more likely given contract length

 

[uTurn]

I looked at his peterboro starts beginning of last season and vast majority of his games were at left back in a 4. When they played 3 at back he played central midfield more often than left Wing back. Don’t recall any as a left winger

His last season at P'Boro, he was almost exclusively played at LB. But prior to that season, he was all over the place. LW, RW, AM, CM. He's got playing time in all of those positions.

We obviously signed him as a full back, but his crossing ability is such that combined with his defensive weaknesses, he could be played further forward and directed to play crosses into the box.

That may well not be a desired plan for CW, but it's still an option we have.

 

[Drachblade]

Good read that tbf to Danny hall and the star, Usually it’s bollocks

 

[Belvedere Blade]

 

[wf9-Danny]

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They can't afford him unless they offload a shitload more

 

[SUFC Guy]

Love a good bidding war I do

 

[Carlton Blade]

United scored 40 goals in the 2,500 minutes Hamer played last season. He scored or assisted 17 of them

 

[KMC-1889]

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This feels like an agent leak to up the offer. Nothing gets the money up like pretending another club is interested.

 

[HAP]

Like people have said, I don't see the point of letting him go for 5-6mil. Should be talking 10mil to even entertain.

I remember seeing he's happy to see his contract out, maybe even extend as his son has really settled into his school. That may well be complete bollocks, but we know he won't force a move.

Only thing that makes me wonder is it could be his last chance to get that premier league taste. I wouldn't have been surprised if he did leave but I thought it would be back in his homeland.

 

[John Cutsbushes]

He's been really good for us and is the one

Like people have said, I don't see the point of letting him go for 5-6mil. Should be talking 10mil to even entertain.

I remember seeing he's happy to see his contract out, maybe even extend as his son has really settled into his school. That may well be complete bollocks, but we know he won't force a move.

Only thing that makes me wonder is it could be his last chance to get that premier league taste. I wouldn't have been surprised if he did leave but I thought it would be back in his homeland.

10 million!!
Last year of his deal I think 3.5 - 5 mill is the most we could hope for in the real world

 

[The Fox]

United scored 40 goals in the 2,500 minutes Hamer played last season. He scored or assisted 17 of them

Can't deny he's our most creative player . However even if we keep him , in a years time we'll most likely still be in championship and have to replace him without the £5m or so from a transfer .

 

[Carlton Blade]

Can't deny he's our most creative player . However even if we keep him , in a years time we'll most likely still be in championship and have to replace him without the £5m or so from a transfer .

He's a £15m player. You can't replace him with that anyway. Just keep him and hope lots of things fall your way.

Lose him and underestimate just how influential him and Brooks were in creating chances and space for others last season, and 40 or less goals scored might be a realstic outcome

 

[HAP]

He's been really good for us and is the one

10 million!!
Last year of his deal I think 3.5 - 5 mill is the most we could hope for in the real world

10mil cause what's benefit of selling for 3.5-5mil? Either pay it or eff off? Surely that's how we should look at it

 

[Balham]

United scored 40 goals in the 2,500 minutes Hamer played last season. He scored or assisted 17 of them

Which also means that with Hamer on the pitch we scored every 62.5 minutes. Without him, we scored every 63.2 minutes.

Could it be that when he’s playing, we’re overly reliant on him?

Also; we signed him from Coventry when he had 1 year left on his contract. That shouldn’t be used as an excuse to accept less than he’s worth (c£8-10m plus add ons).

 

[Carlton Blade]

Which also means that with Hamer on the pitch we scored every 62.5 minutes. Without him, we scored every 63.2 minutes.

Could it be that when he’s playing, we’re overly reliant on him?

Also; we signed him from Coventry when he had 1 year left on his contract. That shouldn’t be used as an excuse to accept less than he’s worth (c£8-10m plus add ons).

Certainly could be. But now that Brooks is gone as well, it's difficult to see who opposition teams would really worry about, or bother sending multiple defenders to cover.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Certainly could be. But now that Brooks is gone as well, it's difficult to see who opposition teams would really worry about, or bother sending multiple defenders to cover.

Exactly. It's a misleading stat when you remove the impact of the Brooks/Seriki double act.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

He's a £15m player. You can't replace him with that anyway. Just keep him and hope lots of things fall your way.

Lose him and underestimate just how influential him and Brooks were in creating chances and space for others last season, and 40 or less goals scored might be a realstic outcome

If/when we replace him perhaps we find someone who not only creates, even if not at that number, but stops our lbs being so exposed too? This idea that he's irreplaceable isn't true as shown by how we did in games without him BUT it has to be done well.

 

[Carlton Blade]

If/when we replace him perhaps we find someone who not only creates, even if not at that number, but stops our lbs being so exposed too? This idea that he's irreplaceable isn't true as shown by how we did in games without him BUT it has to be done well.

Over a long season, in a team that struggles to score goals against top half teams (24 goals in 24 matches last season against the top 12, 20 in 18 matches against the rest of the top 10 the season before), with it's only attacker with pace who created 1v1 gone and with no real options elsewhere, I think he's irreplaceable.

There's no goals coming from CM (10 in the last 90 Championship matches under Wilder, 3 of which were penalties) so there's even more pressure on the front 4

 

[gooseh]

I bonded with Gus at the open training session, I impressed him with my amazing Dutch skills
It went like this:

(Poses for photo with son)

"Dank u wel, bedankt (thank you, thanks)"

(Gus appreciates my immense skills)

"Hey Gus, Ik Ben zwanger (I am pregnant)"

Gus - I hope not

 

[Champagneblade]

10mil cause what's benefit of selling for 3.5-5mil? Either pay it or eff off? Surely that's how we should look at it

Vicinius Jr in last year of his deal. Yet RM still wanted 147m for him.

If you’ve got Coventry, with fresh PL money and paying 22m for a keeper and West Ham, who just raised 140m from the sale of 2 players, we should be playing hardball.

He’s worth a lot to us. So let them prize him away, none of this fair market value bollocks. As I said before 5m is peanuts. It’s neither here nor there.

He’s worth a lot more than that to us because of what he brings.

We have to change our thinking. It would be refreshing to just say he’s not for sale and we are intent on him signing a new deal.

What is the point these new owners coming in and not spending anything?

 

[CPB]

Which also means that with Hamer on the pitch we scored every 62.5 minutes. Without him, we scored every 63.2 minutes.

Could it be that when he’s playing, we’re overly reliant on him?

Also; we signed him from Coventry when he had 1 year left on his contract. That shouldn’t be used as an excuse to accept less than he’s worth (c£8-10m plus add ons).

Did he not have 2 years left?

I can't find the facts but when he signed for Coventry he signed on 3 yr deal in 2020. We signed him in 2023.

Can't imagine he only added 12 months to a new contract he signed after he joined them.

However if he goes in terms of fee it needs to work for us. Yeah he's in last 12 months of deal but he is in effect a 14-18m player with add-ons if he's under a longer contract.

Berge went to Burnley for £12m with a year left. So I'd agree minimum £7m with add-ons...

 

[Bladesman101]

I’d rather have Souttar on a 4 year deal come than have Hamer for 1 more season, so even if the fee is somehwere like £8m I’m fine with it as that pays for big Harry.

 

[Designer Blade]

Let’s face it Wilder has no clue how to best use Gus, but we absolutely lack creativity and midfield goals in this team even with Gus. Gus goes we need 2/3 mids, or a revamped Arblaster and 2 creative mids.

 

[CPB]

Let’s face it Wilder has no clue how to best use Gus, but we absolutely lack creativity and midfield goals in this team even with Gus. Gus goes we need 2/3 mids, or a revamped Arblaster and 2 creative mids.

The stats when he's played suggest otherwise.

I'd argue that first season down Gus was very effective and carried us a bit.

If you are talking about team cohesion with him in the side may have a point.
What gets forgotten is that at Coventry he was their best midfielder by a yard.

But for us we wanted to accomodate Souza, Blaster etc. So to get all three in Hamer could play odd the left be more attacking etc.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

 

[Bell4]

Vicinius Jr in last year of his deal. Yet RM still wanted 147m for him.

If you’ve got Coventry, with fresh PL money and paying 22m for a keeper and West Ham, who just raised 140m from the sale of 2 players, we should be playing hardball.

He’s worth a lot to us. So let them prize him away, none of this fair market value bollocks. As I said before 5m is peanuts. It’s neither here nor there.

He’s worth a lot more than that to us because of what he brings.

We have to change our thinking. It would be refreshing to just say he’s not for sale and we are intent on him signing a new deal.

What is the point these new owners coming in and not spending anything?

As always - spot on

 

[Blade58]

They can't afford him unless they offload a shitload more

Looks like Amanda Staveley is taking a 25% stake in West Ham so there could be extra funds available to invest in players?